On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:13PM +0000, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote: > > Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty > > obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on. > > > > The world will fall because OpenBSD "recommends" that people > > install a game... a game that is free to copy and use for non- > > commercial use (I looked it up), and you had to go through almost > > the ENTIRE package collection all the way to the Zs before you > > could find such a pitiful example. > > Because they are such pitiful cases, they could be easily removed and > remove Stallman's objections to list OpenBSD at the recommended Free > Software operating systems, right? More promotion of OpenBSD would be > good, right?
His recommendation is as empty as his ideals. They are "Free" from any rational thought. More promotion for OpenBSD is only good if it benefits the project. Having a bunch of morons show up is not a goal. We aren't after conquering the world unlike some other projects. > > Stopping this childish-tantrum regarding the FSF would also be very much > more productive. It would be nice if people would stop defending non defensible hypocritical positions. His arguments are a misleading hyperbole. > > > This discussion all started because Mr. Stallman very publicly > > stated that OpenBSD was non-free and distributed non-free software > > in it's ports tree. > > He didn't say OpenBSD was non-free, but that it distributed non-free > Software. Which is inaccurate. > > Looking at > ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.2/packages/i386/zangband-2.6.2p1.tgz > > ... seems to me pretty a pretty clear case. > > > I am pretty sure he had no knowledge of > > zangband and it's non-free license. He was talking about non-free > > software in the ports tree. > > BTW, I think he was (as I frequently happen to by "abuse of language") > referring to the packages site, e.g.: > > http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386.html > > Best, > Rui > > -- > Grudnuk demand sustenance! > Today is Pungenday, the 3rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3174 > + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown > + Whatever you do will be insignificant, > | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi > + So let's do it...?