Re: Keeping OpenBSD installation clean

2014-04-03 Thread Jan Stary
On Apr 04 08:29:11, open...@ledeuns.net wrote: > Hello all, > > I am using OpenBSD to test multiple softwares of any kind (that might > become ports in the future) and I get to install many dependencies and > my system becomes rotten and bloated with unused libraries and chunks > pretty fast. > So

Re: mysql sock

2014-04-03 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 10:22:54PM +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: > Hello > > I wonder something about my mysql socket... > > Mainly, my mysql server is used by my webserver (nginx) which is > chrooted. So I link the mysql socket from /var/run/mysql/mysql.sock to > /var/www/var/run/mysql/mysql.s

mysql sock

2014-04-03 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Hello I wonder something about my mysql socket... Mainly, my mysql server is used by my webserver (nginx) which is chrooted. So I link the mysql socket from /var/run/mysql/mysql.sock to /var/www/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock is there a way to automate this ? I think of a small command line to plac

Keeping OpenBSD installation clean

2014-04-03 Thread Denis Fondras
Hello all, I am using OpenBSD to test multiple softwares of any kind (that might become ports in the future) and I get to install many dependencies and my system becomes rotten and bloated with unused libraries and chunks pretty fast. So I end up reinstalling the system more often than I can handl

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Jan Stary
Volby do evropského parlamentu se blíží. Můžeme zvolit jednoho z evropských developerů - ten by pak po každém commitu navrhl celý kód jako legislativu. Parlament by pak text tohoto návrhu přeložil do všech evropských jazyků.

Re: Could someone recommend me to me a good AMD Radeon card for 2d?

2014-04-03 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 01:50, guitarfreak wrote: > Hello all, I was wondering if I could get some recommendations on what > the best fully supported (by current/impending 5.5 release) AMD Radeon > video card is? I'm primarily interested in watching HD video,but 3d > acceleration is always nice

Could someone recommend me to me a good AMD Radeon card for 2d?

2014-04-03 Thread guitarfreak
Hello all, I was wondering if I could get some recommendations on what the best fully supported (by current/impending 5.5 release) AMD Radeon video card is? I'm primarily interested in watching HD video,but 3d acceleration is always nice too and I'm looking to future proof as much as possible.

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread Martin Braun
The particular issue didn't compromise the web server it only compromised the web application, but yes that made me look deeper into operating systems and security. I even tested FreeBSD Jails, but lets not go there. I used OpenBSD back in the 3.x days, but eventually began using Debian because it

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread Emille Blanc
On 14-04-03 7:04 PM, Martin Braun wrote: As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time". I don't understand why this is "such a big deal". Not 3 days ago, I isolated suspicious network activity to a "high-end" netw

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread bofh
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Martin Braun >wrote: > > > > > As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote > holes > > > in the default install, in a heck of a long time". > > > > > > I don't understand why this i

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Martin Braun wrote: > > > As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote holes > > in the default install, in a heck of a long time". > > > > I don't understand why this is "such a big deal". > > > > Because their shit don't stink? Unlike

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread Martin Brandenburg
Martin Braun wrote: > As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote holes > in the default install, in a heck of a long time". > > I don't understand why this is "such a big deal". > > A part from the base system in xBSD, OpenBSD - so far - also contains a > chrooted web

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread bofh
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Martin Braun wrote: > As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote holes > in the default install, in a heck of a long time". > > I don't understand why this is "such a big deal". > Because their shit don't stink? Unlike other distribution

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread Kenneth Westerback
On 3 April 2014 22:04, Martin Braun wrote: > As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote holes > in the default install, in a heck of a long time". > > I don't understand why this is "such a big deal". > > A part from the base system in xBSD, OpenBSD - so far - also contai

Re: pflog disappeared

2014-04-03 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:18 AM, emigrant wrote: > After 64 days uptime(OpenBSD 5.4 i386) /var/log/pflog disappeared. > > Cron Daemon sent to me: > > Subject: Cron /bin/sh /etc/pflogrotate > > pkill: kvm_getprocs() failed > > > Hmm, yes I use pflogrotate to change pflog -> pflog.txt . After copy

Re: termios VMIN VTIME

2014-04-03 Thread Philip Guenther
The original poster has already be pointed to the POSIX spec and had it explained that OpenBSD won't be changing this behavior as long as it's in POSIX. At this point, there's nothing OpenBSD-related left: *productive* discussion of changing the behavior should be on the austin-group (i.e, POSIX)

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> So we need those third party applications to start the party, yet none of > these applications receives the same code audit, security development and > quality control as OpenBSD does. But unlike on other operating systems, those applications are ALWAYS compiled with PIE, and the stack protector

Re: Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread Scott Learmonth
The statement holds true though (well, I trust it does, I can't verify). They're "bragging" about holes, or lack thereof, in their software, not third party software. It's a matter of personal preference how much needs to be added to a base install to make it good for your use. I use complete base

Only two holes in a heck of a long time, but why?

2014-04-03 Thread Martin Braun
As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time". I don't understand why this is "such a big deal". A part from the base system in xBSD, OpenBSD - so far - also contains a chrooted web server, that can't be used for much

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Beck
Well if you're going to have your thousand hands, perhaps they could just do one word at a time, in one language, and pretty soon we'll morph into something that isn't english and you'll all be a happy little umama ofebayo I'll even start, as I looked in the kernel for a phrase to change, and the

Re: termios VMIN VTIME

2014-04-03 Thread Steve Williams
On 4/3/2014 1:40 AM, trifle menot wrote: On 4/2/14, Mihai Popescu wrote: Dude, what the hell are you trying to do? Just explain in plain words here. I am interested in working with rs232 and i wasted my time reading and wainting for your damn problem. a) Set raw mode. b) Set VMIN = 250 and VT

Re: termios VMIN VTIME

2014-04-03 Thread John D. Verne
On Apr 3, 2014, at 3:40, trifle menot wrote: > On 4/2/14, Mihai Popescu wrote: > >> Dude, what the hell are you trying to do? Just explain in plain words here. >> I am interested in working with rs232 >> and i wasted my time reading and wainting for your damn problem. > [...] > > Now suppose

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread consultor
On 04/03/2014 03:28 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: On 04/03/2014 11:52 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >The project as a whole does not exist to "make non-developers feel good". A soup >kitchen is what you are looking for. Have you considered mailing lists in different Languages Theo? First off, I am diss

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread czarkoff
Probably it is time to accept the fact that everything related to software is in English, just like everything related to foreign affairs is in French. It is impossible maintain the knowledge of software topics without having reasonable (at least poor) skills in English. Pretending that it isn't t

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Wow... just wow... I was feeling a little bit bad that I had to drop the translation project maintenance but seeing all the totally clueless messages of this thread from people who were actually *never* concerned by translation before is amazing. So much ungratefulness... Thank you, I feel much m

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On 04/03/2014 11:52 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >The project as a whole does not exist to "make non-developers feel > good". A soup >kitchen is what you are looking for. > > Have you considered mailing lists in different Languages Theo? First off, I am dissapointed that your mail did also not

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread consultor
On 04/03/2014 11:52 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >The project as a whole does not exist to "make non-developers feel good". A soup >kitchen is what you are looking for. Have you considered mailing lists in different Languages Theo?

AMD64 Snapshot (4/3/14 15:10:00 ) - tmux: can't load library 'libevent.so.4.1'

2014-04-03 Thread Jan Vlach
Hello openbsd.misc, please ignore this, if it is redundant; I would like to report missing libevent.so.4.1 from amd64 snapshot from 4/3/14 15:10:00 as seen on ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64 the SHA256 of the downloaded matches the value in SHA256 file SHA256 (install55.iso) = c39

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 03:27:28PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > Well, if my ideas suck, better to have stuck it out there than offer > > nothing. > > You have offered nothing. > > You offered "Ideas"? You didn't offer ideas -- you offered demands > that we should reinstante something.

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:09:35PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 13:39, Chris Bennett wrote: > > > > If that's all it takes, use google translate. At least then people > > know the translation may not be accurate. As it is, putting something > > on the www.openbsd.org sit

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 04:09:35PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 13:39, Chris Bennett wrote: > > If that's all it takes, use google translate. At least then people > know the translation may not be accurate. As it is, putting something > on the www.openbsd.org site makes it l

Re: APU firmware

2014-04-03 Thread Nicolai
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:18:26AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > PC Engines says that new orders will ship with the old BIOS, unless > there is a request for new BIOS That is disappointing. > I think that's kind of silly. Until they decide to just reflash them > all, watch out. To misc@ in

Re: antiviruses executable on OpenBSD

2014-04-03 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Boris Goldberg contributed: > Do you know of any reliable antivirus scanners (free or not) that would > run on modern OpenBSD? You probably realise this and are simply worried about idiotic users randomly clicking on exes or links and want extra layers but thought it wil

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 13:39, Chris Bennett wrote: > Example: You are in a building that just started to burn down. > Someone shouts "felfh lldowc plop" to you. Huh? You die. > Someone shouts "building out down fire, go!" you live. > This isn't source code. Doesn't need perfection. If that's all

Re: antiviruses executable on OpenBSD

2014-04-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-04-03, Boris Goldberg wrote: > The clam catches pretty much nothing. clamav is greatly improved on email if you add some of the sanesecurity databases, see the clamav-unofficial-sigs package for an easy way to fetch them. it would be great to have more options though...

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 12:16:08PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > Run it off the regular CVS servers. Let pages get translated with small > > > diffs. If I want to translate just one sentence, why not? Eventually the > > > whole page will be done (many people contributing, not just one person)

Re: New hardware for BGPd

2014-04-03 Thread Doros Eracledes
We had very good results with SuperMicro machines with the X9SCi-LN4 motherboard. It comes with 4 x Integrated Intel 82574 L Gigabit LAN Ports so with an additional Intel Quad card we get 8 ports in total. the CPU we get is the Intel Xeon E3-1230V2 and with AES-NI enabled we can easily get 100Mb

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 12:16:08PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Run it off the regular CVS servers. Let pages get translated with small > > diffs. If I want to translate just one sentence, why not? Eventually the > > whole page will be done (many people contributing, not just one person) > > and

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Run it off the regular CVS servers. Let pages get translated with small > diffs. If I want to translate just one sentence, why not? Eventually the > whole page will be done (many people contributing, not just one person) > and only need small updates. The many fingers myth. It actually does no

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Just wanted to show that even nick is wrong every once in a while. :-) So he's wrong, and you are wrong too. Fantastic. And then we move on?

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
dera...@cvs.openbsd.org (Theo de Raadt), 2014.04.03 (Thu) 19:39 (CEST): > > n...@holland-consulting.net (Nick Holland), 2014.04.03 (Thu) 16:19 (CEST): > > > On 04/03/14 04:29, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY wrote: > > > > There's no anymore multilanguage pages ? > > > > > > The problem was that few of the

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:39:02AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > n...@holland-consulting.net (Nick Holland), 2014.04.03 (Thu) 16:19 (CEST): > > > On 04/03/14 04:29, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY wrote: > > > > There's no anymore multilanguage pages ? > > > > > > The problem was that few of the translat

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> n...@holland-consulting.net (Nick Holland), 2014.04.03 (Thu) 16:19 (CEST): > > On 04/03/14 04:29, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY wrote: > > > There's no anymore multilanguage pages ? > > > > The problem was that few of the translations were kept up to date or > > complete. Really, I'm amazed that the (

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
n...@holland-consulting.net (Nick Holland), 2014.04.03 (Thu) 16:19 (CEST): > On 04/03/14 04:29, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY wrote: > > There's no anymore multilanguage pages ? > > The problem was that few of the translations were kept up to date or > complete. Really, I'm amazed that the (volunteer) t

Re: antiviruses executable on OpenBSD

2014-04-03 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 12:18:03PM -0500, Boris Goldberg wrote: > Hello misc, > > We are building a new mail server (migrating from Linux). It uses amavis > with f-prot, drweb and clam antiviruses to check emails. The f-prot is ok. > The drweb catches much less, but sometimes catch something f-p

antiviruses executable on OpenBSD

2014-04-03 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello misc, We are building a new mail server (migrating from Linux). It uses amavis with f-prot, drweb and clam antiviruses to check emails. The f-prot is ok. The drweb catches much less, but sometimes catch something f-prot doesn't. The clam catches pretty much nothing. The (almost useless)

Re: APU firmware

2014-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
PC Engines says that new orders will ship with the old BIOS, unless there is a request for new BIOS I think that's kind of silly. Until they decide to just reflash them all, watch out.

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Nick Holland
On 04/03/14 04:29, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY wrote: > Hi > > There's no anymore multilanguage pages ? The problem was that few of the translations were kept up to date or complete. Really, I'm amazed that the (volunteer) translators could keep up as well as they did, but it wasn't generally as up t

Re: APU firmware

2014-04-03 Thread Alexis VACHETTE
Thanks Theo, I will test that ASAP ;) When my two boards will be at home ! Regards, *Alexis VACHETTE | Network and System Engineer * Sisteer France: 43 rue Pierre Valette, 92240 Malakoff -- France Direct line: +33 1 70 95 51 19 | Fax: +33 1 70 95 50 90 www.sisteer.com On

Re: New hardware for BGPd

2014-04-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-04-03, Rod Whitworth wrote: > I've been running a couple of Soekris 5501s with an add-in 4-port > network card. > > We are looking to upgrade and I need to get a clue about suitable > hardware. > > Google is, these days, totally crap for searching things like what I > need and I'm sure the

Re: OpenBGPd - Exporting Communities to route server peers

2014-04-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-04-01, Thorleif Wiik [BCIX] wrote: > The following example works, but do not export the communities. That sort of "match" rule does work for me on a simple setup. It isn't anything as simple as having disabled softreconfig and requiring a clear is it? If it's not that, I wonder what else

Re: claws-mail

2014-04-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-04-03, Stefan Wollny wrote: > Hi there! Anyone a clue why claws-mail is no longer in the set of > packages? It has a build dependency on webkit, which is broken on i386 in -current.

APU firmware

2014-04-03 Thread deraadt
For those of you with PC-Engines APU systems, a BIOS which works a lot better can be found about halfway down http://pcengines.ch/apu1c.htm Good luck. I hope they have it on newly shipped boards..

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY
Le 2014-04-03 15:50, Amit Kulkarni a écrit : On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY wrote: Hi There's no anymore multilanguage pages ? Regards, Wesley They are gone... There are huge bunch of commits starting from this one. I thought it was a subtle April fool's joke but a

kernel panic when unplugging usb3 sweex harddisk enclosure from usb2 port

2014-04-03 Thread Maxim Belooussov
Hi all, Running current, amd64, snapshot from the 1st of April 2014. The disk from Sweex usb 3.0 enclosure for 3.5 inch disks has been pulled out of usb2 port, got a panic: sd1 detached scsibus3 detached umass0 detached panic: Data modified on freelist: word 14 of object 0x8059e400 size 0

Re: claws-mail

2014-04-03 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2014 Apr 03 (Thu) at 13:07:00 +0100 (+0100), Zé Loff wrote: :Bear in mind that the claws-mail-* package files *are* on the servers (I :just re-checked on a different computer, using a browser). It's the :clients you use to fetch them that are failing. BZZT, wrong. you are checking amd64 (presu

Re: claws-mail

2014-04-03 Thread Zé Loff
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:12:33PM +0200, Stefan Wollny wrote: > Hi Zé, > > I tried again at ftp.openbsd.org, ftp.fr.openbsd.org, ftp.eu.openbsd.org, > ftp.bytemine.net, openbsd.cs.fau.de: > None of them has any claws-mail-* packages. The last two have been checked > for 11+ hours ... > > Tryin

Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Amit Kulkarni
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY < open...@e-solutions.re> wrote: > Hi > > There's no anymore multilanguage pages ? > > Regards, > > Wesley > > They are gone... There are huge bunch of commits starting from this one. I thought it was a subtle April fool's joke but apparently

Re: claws-mail

2014-04-03 Thread Gregor Best
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:12:33PM +0200, Stefan Wollny wrote: > [...] > GLib-GObject:ERROR:gvaluetypes.c:455:_g_value_types_init: assertion failed: > (type == G_TYPE_CHAR) > Abort trap > [...] I had the same problem just a few minutes ago. On my machine the issue was a leftover /usr/local/lib/l

Re: claws-mail

2014-04-03 Thread Stefan Wollny
Hi Zé, I tried again at ftp.openbsd.org, ftp.fr.openbsd.org, ftp.eu.openbsd.org, ftp.bytemine.net, openbsd.cs.fau.de: None of them has any claws-mail-* packages. The last two have been checked for 11+ hours ... Trying to install from ports gives an error: $ claws-mail ** GLib-GObject:ERROR:gtyp

Re: claws-mail

2014-04-03 Thread Zé Loff
> On 03/04/2014, at 10:34, "Stefan Wollny" wrote: > > Hi there! Anyone a clue why claws-mail is no longer in the set of > packages? I can find it on ftp.eu.openbsd.org and ftp.fr.openbsd.org (both dated 31-Mar-2014). Maybe you caught the server while it was syncing...

claws-mail

2014-04-03 Thread Stefan Wollny
Hi there! Anyone a clue why claws-mail is no longer in the set of packages? $ wget ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/claws-* --2014-04-03 11:31:20-- ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/claws-* => ».listing« Auflösen des Hostnamen »ftp.openbsd.org (ftp.

OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-03 Thread Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY
Hi There's no anymore multilanguage pages ? Regards, Wesley

Re: termios VMIN VTIME

2014-04-03 Thread trifle menot
On 4/2/14, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Dude, what the hell are you trying to do? Just explain in plain words here. > I am interested in working with rs232 > and i wasted my time reading and wainting for your damn problem. a) Set raw mode. b) Set VMIN = 250 and VTIME = 1. c) Set port speed to 115200.

pflog disappeared

2014-04-03 Thread emigrant
Hi everyone After 64 days uptime(OpenBSD 5.4 i386) /var/log/pflog disappeared. Cron Daemon sent to me: Subject: Cron /bin/sh /etc/pflogrotate pkill: kvm_getprocs() failed Hmm, yes I use pflogrotate to change pflog -> pflog.txt . After copy pflog from another machine everything back to norm

Re: high performance systems

2014-04-03 Thread Philip Guenther
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Friedrich Locke wrote: > I have just started to learn SDL (software and description language) and i > am learning a new approach to software design. It seems and if software > could be made event oriented it could increase a lot its performance. You're just learnin