The statement holds true though (well, I trust it does, I can't verify).
They're "bragging" about holes, or lack thereof, in their software, not
third party software. It's a matter of personal preference how much needs
to be added to a base install to make it good for your use. I use complete
base installs as routers, so I suppose one's need for additional software
is relative to the intended use.


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Martin Braun <yellowgoldm...@gmail.com>wrote:

> As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote holes
> in the default install, in a heck of a long time".
>
> I don't understand why this is "such a big deal".
>
> A part from the base system in xBSD, OpenBSD - so far - also contains a
> chrooted web server, that can't be used for much else than serving static
> content, and then the X system, which also can't be used for anything
> before installing some third party application.
>
> All in all the default install is pretty useless in itself and I am going
> to quote "Absolute OpenBSD" by Michael Lucas:
>
>   «You're installed OpenBSD and rebooted into a bare-bones system. Of
> course, a minimal Unix-like system is actually pretty boring. While it
> makes a powerful foundation, it doesn't actually do much of anything.»
>
> So we need those third party applications to start the party, yet none of
> these applications receives the same code audit, security development and
> quality control as OpenBSD does.
>
> As soon as we install a single third party application our entire operating
> system is, in theory at least, compromised as these third party
> applications gets installed as root.
>
> Maybe I am just plain stupid, but could someone explain to me the point in
> "bragging" about only two remote holes in the default install, when the
> default install is useless before you add some content to the system,
> unless you're running a web server serving static content only.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Martin

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