On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:52:36AM -0400, Donald Allen wrote:
> accumulation of discomfort about the behavior of this community.
It's not about a COMMUNITY here. It's about an OS and good code.
If you want am smooth, senseless covers
Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2010-04-15, Laszlo Zsolt Kiss wrote:
The new athn driver support the AR5007 chip?
Thanks.
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=athn
I've been having trouble with a 9285 in a low end Gateway
laptop/netbook. I've been tracking snapshots and it always loc
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
> I'm reasoning. I'm not bombing your house.
Good morning in the Lord.
Religious fanatics don't automatically bomb a house, some create museum.
--
Antoine
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
>
> Please do not take my mesages out of context. Removing sentences, and
> twisting what I said can be very convenient to put me in the wrong
> whithout factual evidence.
>
I do not please.
Since no message can be completely within context, that implies
that your ar
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:39:57PM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
> > > That's because I don't yell "GPL is not free" while I'm using GPL.
> >
> > what's wrong with that? if I use Windows and yell "Windows is not free",
> > would you think the same?
> >
>
> If you were insulting a Windows
> > Saying that ISC is "more free" than GPL makes no sense
>
> Saying "Do not remove our text" does not restrict your freedom. That's
> all the ISC asks of you. Leave the copyright notice and the permission
> to use alone.
>
Please do not take my mesages out of context. Removing sentences, and
twi
Would you freaking stop this?
Go hug Stallman or something.
It's not entertaining anymore.
>> The ISC has one restriction and I never claimed otherwise. The GPL has
>> MORE restrictions. I am not contradicting myself. You just want to
>> change the dictionary to match your little reality.
>>
>
hmm, on Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 02:20:02PM -0600, Ted Roby said that
> You should paste a dmesg, and point out what audio drivers
i knew i forgot something :]
i even copied it to the mail server.
shame on me.
i never had audio problems before btw,
also forgot to add.
this static is just a hiss, cra
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, frantisek holop wrote:
> hi there,
>
> with the april 13 snapshot i get "fluctuations"
> in the volume level and audible cracks and glitches
> when have e.g. a browser (opera) and mplayer open.
>
> i dont see a patern yet, but for example during
> watching the mov
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:20 -0300, "VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO"
wrote:
> Saying that ISC is "more free" than GPL makes no sense
Saying "Do not remove our text" does not restrict your freedom. That's
all the ISC asks of you. Leave the copyright notice and the permission
to use alone.
Brad
blah blah blah
blah blah blah
blah blah blah
blah blah blah
blah blah blah
blah blah blah
you love to hear yourself speak, eh?
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 05:20:45AM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
> >
> > The ISC has one restriction and I never claimed otherwise. The GPL has
> > MORE restric
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:20 AM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO <
vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br> wrote:
> > The ISC has one restriction and I never claimed otherwise. The GPL has
> > MORE restrictions. I am not contradicting myself. You just want to
> > change the dictionary to match your little reality.
> >
>
> The ISC has one restriction and I never claimed otherwise. The GPL has
> MORE restrictions. I am not contradicting myself. You just want to
> change the dictionary to match your little reality.
>
You are contradicting yourself. On your terms:
Axioms:
1 Freedom means no restrictions
2 ISC has
hi there,
with the april 13 snapshot i get "fluctuations"
in the volume level and audible cracks and glitches
when have e.g. a browser (opera) and mplayer open.
i dont see a patern yet, but for example during
watching the movie the volume level keeps changing
accompanied by an audible pop.
it co
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:59:57AM -0700, Henry Sieff wrote:
>
> Oh, absolutely - hence the proliferation of Linux and Solaris in our
> solutions - the customer insists on oracle for the back-end db, they
> get oracle. And as you say, that can be driven by the arbitrary
> demands of the customer w
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law#Duration_of_copyright
>
>From http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm
1923 through 1977
Published without a copyright notice
None. In the public domain due to failure to comply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law#Duration_of_copyright
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:13 AM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
wrote:
>> Now this is interesting...
>>
>> Does anything supersede Copyright Law?
>>
>> What if I release my work as Anonymous with
>> no text in regards to lic
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Matthew Sullenberger
wrote:
> establish a connection. I don't have another host that doesn't send an MSS to
> test with, nor am I really sure how I would go about producing one. So would
> this be possibly a "bug" in the OpenBSD PMTU implementation (the expected
>
> I don't know for certain, but I believe that in the United States
> a work whithout copyright notices goes to the public domain after
> 25 years.
I don't know for certain, but I believe you are just making things up
as you go along, because you are nothing but a troll.
(sorry about the long "disclaimer" in my original email-- I didn't think about
the fact that my company automatically appends that; I have signed up with a
new account).
Simon Perreault wrote:
> Assuming you meant 536...
> ...you're right according to RFC 879:
Yes, I did indeed mean 536 not 576.
Marco Peereboom wrote:
First let me defend softraid. The rebuild code is designed to offer
maximum data protection. With this is mind certain assumptions were
made.
Sorry... I haven't stated that I think that data protection is king.
Any performance increase that could compromise the disk co
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:05 AM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO <
vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br> wrote:
> >
> > I think the best example is "Free as in Beer."
> >
>
> Which already misses the point.
>
>
That's why the example is so common?
It's in quotes because I didn't originate it.
> > I can brew beer all da
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:13 AM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO <
vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br> wrote:
> >
> > Now this is interesting...
> >
> > Does anything supersede Copyright Law?
> >
> > What if I release my work as Anonymous with
> > no text in regards to licensing?
> >
> > Does anyone wanting to use that
On 04/15/10 12:00, ch...@bennettconstruction.biz wrote:
I am going to continue this on ports, my mistake earlier
I created a new profile, but I still can't get thunderbird 3 to accept
my self-signed certificate for sendmail TLS.
It asks for me to confirm that the certificate should be used as a
> I think the best example is "Free as in Beer."
>
Which already misses the point.
> I can brew beer all day.
>
> I can keep it to myself.
>
> I can also share it.
>
> If I share a beer with you, it is free. (I am giving it to you)
>
If you sell it to me it's also free. You are missing the point
On 2010-04-15 13:46, Matthew Sullenberger wrote:
So would
this be possibly a "bug" in the OpenBSD PMTU implementation (the expected
behavior occurs and the connection works normally if I disable PMTU) and if so
should I be submitting some kind of official report?
Maybe. Use sendbug(1).
Simon
-
> You do not seem to understand how copyright works. When published, a
> work is subject to a set of restrictions, laid down by copyright law.
> A license grants rights (under conditions or restrictions) to the
> receiver of a work. No license means no extra rights, which means the
> default defin
> Now this is interesting...
>
> Does anything supersede Copyright Law?
>
> What if I release my work as Anonymous with
> no text in regards to licensing?
>
> Does anyone wanting to use that work in OpenBSD
> actually have to track down who "Anonymous" was?
> Does the code become useless if its own
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Henning Brauer wrote:
>
> find all(!) copyright holders and have them agree to a new license. or
> don't use that code.
>
>
There are at least three projects involved here.
1. The Diku project
2. The Merc project
3. The "Forsaken Lands" project
The Diku and Merc
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 09:15:39AM -0700, Henry Sieff wrote:
[SNIP]
> Unfortunately, for many of us the end goal is to get a pile of crap,
> as dictated by management, working well enough that we get another paycheck.
> Unfortunately, for man
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 09:15:39AM -0700, Henry Sieff wrote:
> I work with a lot of systems integrator types - they deliver finished
> platforms to run apps we develop on. A lot of familiarity with Solaris and
> Centos. One day, a couple of load balancers died and one of them needed a
> quick solut
I am going to continue this on ports, my mistake earlier
I created a new profile, but I still can't get thunderbird 3 to accept
my self-signed certificate for sendmail TLS.
It asks for me to confirm that the certificate should be used as a
permanent exception (just as previous thunderbird did at f
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Pfaff wrote:
> There's non-free software in the ports tree.
Good thing it's in ports, then. Keeps that shady license where we can
see it, and choose to suffer with it or not.
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:35 -0600
> Ted Roby wrote:
> >
> > I didn't think OpenBSD was even interested in such licensing
> > schemes in the Ports tree.
> >
>
> There's non-free software in the ports tree.
Not in a real sense. The ports tree is a build infrastructure
containing Makefiles, l
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
>
> Yes, it's a tricky question. As for OpenBSD, we do not include
> anonymous work.
>
> A work can be public domain if the copyright expires. In some
> jurisdictions, a work can be put into the public domain by the author.
>
> If a work is
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:55:11AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > You do not seem to understand how copyright works. When published, a
> > work is subject to a set of restrictions, laid down by copyright law.
> > A license grants rig
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:35 -0600
Ted Roby wrote:
>
> I didn't think OpenBSD was even interested in such licensing
> schemes in the Ports tree.
>
There's non-free software in the ports tree.
> What if I release my work as Anonymous with
> no text in regards to licensing?
Then nobody knows who owns the code, and lack of license goes to the
default case of ALL Rights Reserved.
> Does anyone wanting to use that work in OpenBSD
> actually have to track down who "Anonymous" was?
> Does th
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 05:11:56AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote:
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
> Linux, but if a questioner see
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> > So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce
> > code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?
>
> I don't suppose you've stopped to ask if the OpenBSD project is at
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
>
> You do not seem to understand how copyright works. When published, a
> work is subject to a set of restrictions, laid down by copyright law.
> A license grants rights (under conditions or restrictions) to the
> receiver of a work. No l
On 2010-04-15 12:18, Matthew Sullenberger wrote:
I understand the host I am trying to communicate with has its own set of
issues, but my question to Misc is that I was under the belief that if
either side did not explicitly send a MSS during the handshake the
required behavior was to default to 5
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce
> code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?
I don't suppose you've stopped to ask if the OpenBSD project is at all
interested in whatever code you feel like contributing?
On 04/15/10 23:14, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
The dictionary definition of freedom is no restrictions
"NO RESTRICTIONS"
May I point out to you that ISC has restrictions. You are
contradicting yourself.
Logic works the same for everyone, since it's an abstract
field, but apparently
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:02 PM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO <
vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br> wrote:
> > Lets try it.
> >
> > 0 < X < (Y + Z)
> > Y > 0
> > Z > 0
> >
> > ISC = X
> > GPL = X + Y + Z
> >
> > Logical enough for you?
> >
>
> If you assume that the definition of freedom is the number of
> restrictio
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:05 AM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
wrote:
>> > For them? Maybe the freedom to give copies to their friends whithout
>> > being sued or doing anything illegal.
>>
>> That can easily be applied to any of the free licenses without any
>> other legal obligations.
>>
>
> Yes! Bec
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:02:23AM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
> > Lets try it.
> >
> > 0 < X < (Y + Z)
> > Y > 0
> > Z > 0
> >
> > ISC = X
> > GPL = X + Y + Z
> >
> > Logical enough for you?
> >
>
> If you assume that the definition of freedom is the number of
> restrictions, then nei
Marco Peereboom wrote:
> See I told you logic wouldn't work for you.
> > Since _my_ definition of freedom for software is different, I
> > reach different conclusions.
Right. It didn't.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:14:56AM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
> > The dictionary definition of freedom is no restrictions
> >
>
> "NO RESTRICTIONS"
>
> May I point out to you that ISC has restrictions. You are
> contradicting yourself.
The ISC has one restriction and I never claimed
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
>
> Logic works the same for everyone, since it's an abstract
> field, but apparently you did not study it.
It weems that you did not learn it.
I work with a lot of systems integrator types - they deliver finished
platforms to run apps we develop on. A lot of familiarity with Solaris and
Centos. One day, a couple of load balancers died and one of them needed a
quick solution so I tossed them my 4.6 cd and sent them a link to man for
relayd
Hello Misc,
I am consistently having trouble sending data to one particular host.
After quite a lot of troubleshooting and reviewing config on my side, I
noticed that during the TCP handshake the host in question was not
sending any MSS in its SYN/ACK packet. My OpenBSD box then continues to
tran
* Ted Roby [2010-04-15 17:53]:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
> > 1. .. either track down someone with the right to change...
>
> Been there.. did it...thanks...
>
> > 2 ... or else be the point of first blame in seeing if...
>
> Now that's what I'm interested in! I
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bill Dunshie wrote:
> A huge Thanks to Jacek Artymiak for the PDF's of "Building Firewalls with
> OpenBSD and PF, 3rd ed." and "The OpenBSD Command-LineCompanion". The wait
> was worth it !!!
>
>
Link or didn't happen.
> The dictionary definition of freedom is no restrictions
>
"NO RESTRICTIONS"
May I point out to you that ISC has restrictions. You are
contradicting yourself.
Logic works the same for everyone, since it's an abstract
field, but apparently you did not study it.
See I told you logic wouldn't work for you.
The dictionary definition of freedom is no restrictions therefore more
restriction is less free. Not sure how you can argue that.
ISC has one restriction, the GPL has numerous therefore less free.
Again not sure how this is debatable.
If you prefer th
> > For them? Maybe the freedom to give copies to their friends whithout
> > being sued or doing anything illegal.
>
> That can easily be applied to any of the free licenses without any
> other legal obligations.
>
Yes! Because they are all free (in _my_ opinion). I like GPL, ISC,
BSD, all of them
> Lets try it.
>
> 0 < X < (Y + Z)
> Y > 0
> Z > 0
>
> ISC = X
> GPL = X + Y + Z
>
> Logical enough for you?
>
If you assume that the definition of freedom is the number of
restrictions, then neither ISC nor GPL are free. The only free
license would be no license at all. Public domain.
Since _my_
> For them? Maybe the freedom to give copies to their friends whithout
> being sued or doing anything illegal.
That can easily be applied to any of the free licenses without any
other legal obligations.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
>
> You are the one interested in resurrecting this beast.
> The onus is you to either track down someone with the right to change
> the license, or else be the point of first blame in seeing if the author
> will actually enforce the copyright.
> > That's because I don't yell "GPL is not free" while I'm using GPL.
>
> what's wrong with that? if I use Windows and yell "Windows is not free",
> would you think the same?
>
If you were insulting a Windows user, probably.
> I'm curious, what freedom do you think the GPL brings to those peopl
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
>
>
> As for the personal attacks, you can print off this email,
> fold it until it's all corners, and shove it up your ass.
>
>
Now that was far longer than your first one-liner smackdown.
Good job.
A huge Thanks to Jacek Artymiak for the PDF's of "Building Firewalls
with OpenBSD and PF, 3rd ed." and "The OpenBSD Command-LineCompanion".
The wait was worth it !!!
Donald Allen wrote:
> After getting subjected to some of this nonsense personally, having
> asked a question on openbsd-tech (and was in the midst of a useful
> exchange with Bob Beck until it was interrupted out of the blue by
> someone who apparently enjoys behaving like an unruly 10-year-old; it
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 05:35:34AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
Look,
You gave no indication if you actually bothered to track down the author
or discuss relicensing with the author. Enough people don't think
"Maybe I should ask the author."
You also gave a less than clear indication of "I really liked
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 05:03:43PM +0300, Andreas Gerdd wrote:
> Thanks for your answer.
>
> > We change obj to pobj on purposes. obj has some special propertis that WILL
> > throw make.
>
> Does this mean doing a 'make index' is not necessary anymore?
>
> Best wishes.
No, it means that if you d
Thanks for your answer.
> We change obj to pobj on purposes. obj has some special propertis that WILL
> throw make.
Does this mean doing a 'make index' is not necessary anymore?
Best wishes.
Donald Allen wrote:
After getting subjected to some of this nonsense personally, having
asked a question on openbsd-tech (and was in the midst of a useful
exchange with Bob Beck until it was interrupted out of the blue by
someone who apparently enjoys behaving like an unruly 10-year-old; it
had n
On 2010-04-15, Laszlo Zsolt Kiss wrote:
> The new athn driver support the AR5007 chip?
> Thanks.
>
>
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=athn
[begin quote]
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Matthias Kilian
wrote:
> What detail in the original reply Theo sent to the OP (and quoted
> it later on this list) was rude?
The lack of an answer. He could have said "Yes. Check your nearest
search engine for details". Which would have conveyed mo
Hi,
> I would like to use relayd to check if squid is up and working. If it is
> up and works, it should be used as transparent proxy. If squid isn't
> working properly for whatever reason (or the squid host isn't reachable)
> I just want to have normal internet access.
>
> When the Squid host is
The new athn driver support the AR5007 chip?
Thanks.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 03:04:59PM +0300, Andreas Gerdd wrote:
> Hello.
> 'make index' doesn't work inside /usr/ports after i update the ports.
> It only works when i remove the entire ports folder and get it again from cvs.
>
> # cd /usr/ports
> # cvs -q -d$CVSROOT up -r OPENBSD_4_6 -Pd
> M INDEX
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 04:18:50AM -0700, ch...@bennettconstruction.biz
wrote:
> I can receive mail but I cannot get it to send email even after fixing
> all the changes it made to my settings. It changed my outgoing server
> from its IP address to the host name which will not work.
> I changed it
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:49 AM, wrote:
>
>
> So you think that giving people the freedom to know where the code has come
> from to allow them to not get conned and not use old, possibly insecure
> code
> and giving them the ability to contribute to the original source of the
> code
> and possibl
I can receive mail but I cannot get it to send email even after fixing
all the changes it made to my settings. It changed my outgoing server
from its IP address to the host name which will not work.
I changed it back to IP address but it still fails to work.I deleted a
password, but it won't even a
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:38 +0100, "- Tethys" wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Matthias Kilian
> wrote:
>
> > What detail in the original reply Theo sent to the OP (and quoted
> > it later on this list) was rude?
>
> The lack of an answer. He could have said "Yes. Check your nearest
> se
Hello.
'make index' doesn't work inside /usr/ports after i update the ports.
It only works when i remove the entire ports folder and get it again from cvs.
# cd /usr/ports
# cvs -q -d$CVSROOT up -r OPENBSD_4_6 -Pd
M INDEX
P www/php5/Makefile.inc
P www/php5/distinfo
P www/php5/core/pkg/PLIST-main
P
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:35 -0300, "VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO"
wrote:
> > Then apply some logical thinking yourself, and quit drinking Stallman's
> > kool-aid.
> >
>
> Funny.
He just spoke TRUTH, Your ilk is unfamiliar with that and its concept.
>
> > How many restrictions are in the BSD and ISC
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 02:39:29AM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
> Fascinating. I predicted Peereboom would post the same old rant.
>
> > > > My "fix" has nothing to do with childish attitude or being more nerdy
> > > > than
> > > > you. It has everything do with GNU's twisted definitio
longgest useless thread EVER!!! a bit funny, however :D
Jason George wrote:
Actually two of the top linux kernel developers answered my email
directly to them when I had some questions. There was no ridicule or
belittling.
If so, you got ripped off. You should hear us over beer.
Oh, and
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Matthias Kilian
wrote:
> What detail in the original reply Theo sent to the OP (and quoted
> it later on this list) was rude?
The lack of an answer. He could have said "Yes. Check your nearest
search engine for details". Which would have conveyed more information
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
> > I got more help from the first poster who suggested using
> > Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to
> > to this modified Rom code, and perhaps committed the
> > error of g
> If you define "freedom" by the number of restrictions, then
> the only
> free license would be no license at all. Public domain. No
> copyright.
> Thus no restrictions. No ALL CAPs notices. Not even
> crediting the
> original developers.
So you think that giving people the freedom to know where
From: "Henning Brauer"
* Peter [2010-04-15 03:27]:
I know bigmem is still in a state of flux and can be enabled by
editing machdep.c and compiling a custom kernel.
What's the best way to test and report this?
none. bigmem is known broken, otherwise it would be enabled by
default. and tests pr
* Peter [2010-04-15 03:27]:
> I know bigmem is still in a state of flux and can be enabled by
> editing machdep.c and compiling a custom kernel.
> What's the best way to test and report this?
none. bigmem is known broken, otherwise it would be enabled by
default. and tests proving the fact, well,
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 04:35:36AM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
> That's because I don't yell "GPL is not free" while I'm using GPL.
what's wrong with that? if I use Windows and yell "Windows is not free",
would you think the same?
I'm curious, what freedom do you think the GPL brings
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:35 AM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
wrote:
> The fact that I'm not a developer does not means I should remain
> in silence.
The general approach there has always been:
"Shut up and hack!"
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On 14/04/2010 19:27, J Sisson wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Matthias Kilian
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:38:56PM -0500, Ron McDowell wrote:
>>> Yup, nowhere in that goals page does it say anything about "don't be
>>> rude to the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so
http://marc.info/?w=2&r=1&s=%22Strange+concept%22&q=t
and?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:37 AM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
wrote:
>>
>> Eh? Was it irony? I suppose that not and you need to learn A LOT about
>> who is Marco ;-)
>>
>
> Search for "Strange concept" on marc.info.
This has been committed. Thanks.
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Hello,
while playing with isakmpd, I found that it would be nice to have a
complement for the "isakmpd: exiting" log entry.
Index: isakmpd.c
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> Then apply some logical thinking yourself, and quit drinking Stallman's
> kool-aid.
>
Funny.
> How many restrictions are in the BSD and ISC licenses? For all intents
> and purposes, one: keep the copyright message intact. Otherwise, *free*
> to do with as you please. That's a fact.
>
"Ot
> Eh? Was it irony? I suppose that not and you need to learn A LOT about
> who is Marco ;-)
>
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