Re: [mailop] Microsoft SNDS

6 May 2017 at 10:02, Michael Wise via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: Known issue, being worked on. Any ETA? Would this be affecting IPs that are currently rate limited? As in, would they continue to be rate limited until this issue is resolved, even if th

[mailop] BTW guys ... MailOp signup page cert has expired.

https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop Just a FYI. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

Re: [mailop] SPF record

Forwarding ... is GROSSLY insecure and causes far more problems than it solves. Just grabbing the traffic from the original INBOX with IMAP or POP3 is a much more secure solution. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got

Re: [mailop] SPF record

oft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Steve Atkins Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:52 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] SPF record > On May 22, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Mich

Re: [mailop] Hosted exchange/Office 365 specific domain junk issue (MLV:ovrnspm)

Machine Learning Verdict. But it was the BCL value of the sending IP that classified it as SCL:9 High Confidence Spam.. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Hosted exchange/Office 365 specific domain junk issue (MLV:ovrnspm)

I’d need the full headers from BOTH samples. My suspicion is that the IPs used in each are different. Otherwise, without solid forensic data (the full headers), I’m not prepared to, “Guess Authoritatively”. 😊 We need the full headers of both samples, from both the BCL:2 and BCL:7 emails. Aloha,

Re: [mailop] Senderbase sold?

The IP rep page ... let's just say it's not the same. At the very least, getting back to a real IP address sort would be nice. sort -n -t"." -k1,1 -k2,2 -k3,3 -k4,4 Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Ju

Re: [mailop] Senderbase sold?

iking the new look Sender Score either. Bulbous header and too much scrolling to get the info. Ken. On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 18:26 +, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > The IP rep page ... let's just say it's not the same. > At the very least, getting back to a real IP address

Re: [mailop] Hotmail server(s) out of memory?

Looks like the issue is being mitigated. Our monitoring did catch it, apparently. Past that, can’t say much. 😊 Thanks! Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Seeking Clarity on Office 365 Error Message

Need a bit more detail. Was there an AS(###) after it? Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Todd Herr Sent: ‎6/‎13/‎2017 2:43 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Seeking Clarity on Off

Re: [mailop] Trouble with hotmail

What She Said. Plus, it appears the issue has been mitigated, and the traffic should be flowing again…? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

Let's not forget S.1618 Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, Ju

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

You’d be surprised how many people think that their sincerity is flagged in the protocol somehow…. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] User question about getting off blocklists

To John's first point, some of us do require a bit of a nudge, even now. To the second point, if the requestor has no obvious connection to the IP, and is not the Postmaster (or equiv), some of us are going to recommend that the requestor reach out to their Postmaster to act on their behalf, si

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:31 AM To: Michael Wise Cc: John Stephenson ; Larry M. Smith ; mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 00:46:28 -0000, Michael Wise via mailop said: > Youb ___ mailop mailing list mailo

Re: [mailop] Properly vetting an hosting provider before buying/moving

Looks like #1 is mostly Azure. Bringing this to certain peoples' attention now. ... Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@m

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

It's nice, from time to time, to be able to Telnet to port 25 and type in the commands manually for testing. I know, I should write some simple scripts. ☹ Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reportin

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

r Time to Keep a Connection Open > On Aug 1, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Michael Wise via mailop > mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: > > > It's nice, from time to time, to be able to Telnet to port 25 and type in the > commands manually for testing. > I know, I sho

Re: [mailop] emails offering email l;ists for sale

Depends. If the sender is Hotmail, Outlook, et al ... or if it's an Office365 customer, we always like to know about it. Prefer full headers at the very least. Can be reported to me, but we prefer it be sent to j...@office365.microsoft.com ... Preferably wi

Re: [mailop] mail.protection.outlook.de IPv6 broken

The issue is being investigated Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell Esq. S

Re: [mailop] mail.protection.outlook.de IPv6 broken

ailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wise via mailop Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 10:01 AM To: Anne P. Mitchell Esq. ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] mail.protection.outlook.de IPv6 broken The issue is being investigated Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spa

[mailop] Does anyone have a contact at RegisteredSite / Netsol?

Some folks at work are asking, and I couldn’t remember anyone offhand. ☹ Our China datacenter has got some IPs listed. Would be grateful for any pointers / assistance. This is the block list we were talking about. http://emailadmin.registeredsite.com Some of our (Chinese Data Center) IP address

Re: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

I can’t comment, but if you can share an IP or two, I can give it a peek and … if there’s something wrong, might be able to shake something loose. But again, the first approach (and the second and third) would be to open a ticket and reply to the second email if a mitigation is not forthcoming,

Re: [mailop] Outlook/Hotmail AS3150 block

“AS” In this case refers to an, “Anti Spam” rule, not an Autonomous System Number. Sounds like there is a block, but it’s larger than just one IP. It appears that the issue has been mitigated as of earlier today. I’m not in a position to provide any other assistance, sorry. Aloha, Michael. -- M

Re: [mailop] Outlook/Hotmail AS3150 block

No, and there are many more. It's always an internal code to help us in debugging. It's never an ASN. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Benjamin BILLON via mailop Sent: ‎9/‎19/‎2017 8:09 PM To: mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] Hotmail is blocking our mail relay IP range

Please open a ticket. You may be affected by some ongoing issues. They’re dealing with them as fast as they can. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Open a HotMail Ticket

Re: [mailop] Outlook.com bad behaviour (blocked by fail2ban?)

I'd start here: 104.47.0.0/17 (32768 addresses) Also ... is it "Enterprise" (Microsoft.com, *.onmicrosoft.com, Corporate customers) mail, or "Consumer" (aka @hotmail.com, @outlook.com, etc.) as where the traffic comes from could be quite different. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise M

Re: [mailop] Outlook.com bad behaviour (blocked by fail2ban?)

ration| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of MRob Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:26 PM To: mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Outlook.com bad behaviou

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and 4.5.1 4.7.500 Server Busy with some ASxxx attached

Can someone please share an IP where this is being seen? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message

[mailop] 163.com Domain Contacts

Are there any 163.com admins on this list? Please little-r me if so... Thanks in advance! Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] FBL drop for Hotmail/Outlook

I am making inquiry as to what might be the cause of this behavior. Will get back when I hear something solid. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] SmartScreen filter does not "regroup" email traffic from different IPs

If for some reason in the past, the IPs were treated differently, they will be treated differently going forward. You can ask Hotmail Support if there's some way of "Re-merging" the way the IPs are handled. I'm not aware of how this could be done, but for the IPs you are describing, this is alm

Re: [mailop] SmartScreen filter does not "regroup" email traffic from different IPs

1. It's a harder problem than it looks. 2. It would be interesting to see what their response would be to the ask of merging... But they would be the ones to present the question to first. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been

Re: [mailop] SmartScreen filter does not "regroup" email traffic from different IPs

Honestly, no. They are required my Legal to always stay on script. Ask for them to escalate the request to T3 (or even T4?) and see what they have to say. At some point, the request will formally come to the attention of someone who can give you a better answer. But it has to go thru the suppo

Re: [mailop] 550 sending to hotmail.com

Ticket numbers are ALWAYS helpful... even if not for me. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message

Re: [mailop] Hotmail, green SNDS and junk folder placement

There are ways of dealing with BCL, but I'd suggest you point it out when opening the ticket. Also, the JMRP doesn't generate 1:1 reports for each piece of traffic reported as spam. The ratio is much smaller than that, otherwise senders would use it for List Washing, and that's frowned upon. A

Re: [mailop] Hotmail, green SNDS and junk folder placement

The last reply we got was "after reviewing the information you provided and in compliance with our mail policies, we are unable to offer immediate mitigation for your deliverability issue", so I guess we washed off the Support Level 2. I wonder how many levels before the final boss! Chee

Re: [mailop] Hotmail, green SNDS and junk folder placement

.@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell Esq. Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:56 AM To: Michael Wise via mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail, green SNDS and junk folder placement > > > I'm asking a few people to confirm my understanding and will get back to &g

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and 4.5.1 4.7.500 Server Busy with some

Please open a ticket. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Hotmail, green SNDS and junk folder placement

ers and "grey" senders, it could helps a lot to know if we have to multiply the current spam complaints count by xxx. Thank you very much in advance ! Simon 2017-10-30 18:49 GMT+01:00 Michael Wise via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>: I'm asking a few people to confirm my u

Re: [mailop] IPs blacklisted with Microsoft

's no issue with that relay's IP - it's just working. so i really can't see what the problem might be with our customer's mails. Regards Andreas Michael Wise via mailop schrieb am 20.09.2017 um 00:30: > Standard response is to start by opening a ticket … using

Re: [mailop] Gmail forwarding blowback

This is to be expected if you let your users forward spam. Some systems may be able to automatically notice, but. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

[mailop] Just so everyone knows ...

I’m on vacation in Uganda currently. Should be back on the other side of the planet and in office on the 30th. Aloha, Michael. — “Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed,” ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailm

[mailop] A note from the Outlook.com Principle Program Manager...

Passing it along. 😊 Begin: A quick note regarding outlook.com service. We completed the move of the outlook.com transport and filtering infrastructure to Exchange Online Protection (O365). Over the past few weeks MX records for outlook.*, hotmail.*, msn.*, live.* etc were pointed to the new f

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

That last bit should only be for Office365 accounts ... I think. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Mes

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

Sometimes called, "Code Coverage" Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mai

Re: [mailop] Hotmail troubleshooting URL redirected to outlook.com mailbox?

Happened when I tried it as well. Consider it reported. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: Tim Starr [mailto:timst

Re: [mailop] Anyone on here from Hotmail?

That's a new one... I've brought this to the attention of the internals folks. It's a 4xx deferral; does this happen at a particular time of day? How long until the email actually gets delivered? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been

Re: [mailop] Anyone on here from Hotmail?

Did you in fact open a ticket? Because nothing happens until a ticket has been opened. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting T

Re: [mailop] Anyone on here from Hotmail?

Did you in fact open a ticket? Because nothing happens until a ticket has been opened. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting T

Re: [mailop] Anyone on here from Hotmail?

?id=18275> ? From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wise via mailop Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:04 AM To: Emanuel ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Anyone on here from Hotmail? That's a new one... I've brought this to the attention of

Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Outlook Helo Hostnames Unknown

Yes, I agree ... oh, waitaminute. Can you at least provide an example? Just a single example? Better yet, some meta-analysis of what these invalid URIs look like? It would help. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got th

Re: [mailop] Weird problems with mitigation at Hotmail/Outlook

"Pre-emptive Accommodation" is, I believe, the correct term. And yes, it does help if it's before traffic actually starts. Glad it got unblocked. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Weird problems with mitigation at Hotmail/Outlook

Our reputation system has a *LONG* memory. And I'm sure it's not alone. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: Paul Ju

Re: [mailop] Anyone on here from Hotmail?

That's not a block, that's an internal issue on our end. It's being investigated. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? Fro

Re: [mailop] Microsoft, your one-stop source for blowback spam

Maybe not a bucket or so, because I'm up to my nostrils in other ork, but... Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -

Re: [mailop] Microsoft, your one-stop source for blowback spam

It was blowback, and should have been stopped at the edge. It has acquired eyeballs. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

Re: [mailop] Outlook - no blocks, but still not delivered

This mailinglist is not for Outlook issue escalations. All such need to be handled thru the tickets you have already opened. And I make a point of not having any visibility into said tickets until when and IFF they are handed to me as escalations. Any other way lies madness, sorry. Aloha, Micha

Re: [mailop] Weird problems with mitigation at Hotmail/Outlook

ted on the long term of course, however the older the "action" was, From: Benjamin BILLON mailto:bbil...@splio.com>> To: Michael Wise mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com>>, Michael Wise via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> Date: 17/01/2018 02:01 Subject: Re: [mailop

Re: [mailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses

Much internal discussion, but ... Apparently ... " 452 is a special error code (per RFC) that instructs the sending MTA to retry the rejected recipients immediately. " it is designed to split messages with a large number of recipients. Apparently that's not exactly what we're using it for, but

Re: [mailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses

Thanks for the kind words. The below noted errors have been added to the list. Again, the 452 should be an immediate retry… not so sure about the 451s and 421s. By definition, 4xx codes are, “Please Retry” and classically the retry interval is MTA specific. Still … weird. Needs to attract eyeb

Re: [mailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses

com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Steve Atkins Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:49 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses > On Jan 24, 2018, a

Re: [mailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses

? From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wise via mailop Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:57 AM To: Benjamin BILLON ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses Thanks for the kind words. The below noted errors have been added to

Re: [mailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses

Yes, it's not volume related. That was the original intent of the code, but. And later for values of immediately. I gather that was the original intent of the RFC as well. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk

Re: [mailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses

ailop] Issues delivering to Hotmail addresses Hi Michael, At 12:20 PM 24-01-2018, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: >Hack: an in-elegant solution that one personally doesn't like, but that >appears to work. > >As to the retry interval, I feel a bit out of my depth on that one, and

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

Anything more than 5% bad recipients in mail sent by a given IP address will land you in hot water with ... certain ISPs. 😊 Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

For, “smaller players” the best way is to submit the traffic thru SpamCop. We get a feed from them, and it’s one more drop in the bucket … but the buckets are looked at by a human. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." G

Re: [mailop] Lots of spam from gmail ?

Such details are available internally, and we're working to make sure that significant volumes of this stuff stops leaking. Based on some of the Office365 reports I'm seeing, some of these miscreants are being brought under control. But the war never ends. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell Esq. Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:12 AM To: Michael Wise via mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop? > > Als

Re: [mailop] Spam originating from Office 365

If it's being marked as spam, and isn't, the recipient Office365 Tenant needs to raise it as a False Positive. Or the sender, if it’s coming from Office365 to an external. One way or another, *SOMEONE* has to raise it as an FP. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Ana

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

We have, just not here. 😊 It's being ... investigated. Sorry for the delay. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

t; ? -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Carl Byington Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 9:14 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 22:22 +0

Re: [mailop] Once more: outlook.com services abused for Backscatter DDOS Attacks

I honestly don't know. I doubt getting rid of it is a priority at the moment. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? ---

Re: [mailop] Once more: outlook.com services abused for Backscatter DDOS Attacks

Locally configure ... valid recipients ... You need to think in terms of hundreds of millions of accounts. Mail from one Front End on one side of the world needing to be relayed to the other side of the world for delivery ... INSIDE the Org. This isn't one Linux box running Postfix and Dovecot.

Re: [mailop] Microsoft IPs automatically unsubscribing recipients?

Is this still on-going? I had heard that it had been addressed week before last...? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? F

Re: [mailop] [OUTLOOK] Michael, Can you jump on shutting down this Fake Apple Sender right away

Nuked automatically at 11:18am Pacific. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [m

Re: [mailop] Microsoft IPs automatically unsubscribing recipients?

You forgot to mention ... nevermind. Yeah, completely understand the frustration, sticks have been sharpened, people have been poked, will get back to you as soon as I have something. And here I thought it had been addressed ... :'( Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam

Re: [mailop] Anyone from Gmail ?

Do the recipients actually WANT the email? Perhaps you’re sending too much of it. Can the recipients control the volume, or at the very least opt out? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<

Re: [mailop] Microsoft IPs automatically unsubscribing recipients?

BTW, there was one tidbit of info we can pass on. Don't encode the recipient's email address in the FQDN or in the path. Keep that data as a variable. More I cannot say. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the J

Re: [mailop] Anyone from Gmail ?

Lugo Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 5:40 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Anyone from Gmail ? On Tue, 6 Mar 2018, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > Do the recipients actually WANT the email? > > Perhaps you?re sending too much of it. > > Can the recipients contro

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

I can see a one-shot pass to validate an email address that was just added (and then there’s the whole question of hitting, “First Contact” limits…), but trying to guess the address? Um, No. Also, no further contact at all if they do not respond. That, plus making sure to send something wanted

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

I thought there was a BCP on SpamTraps that if they were automatic, they had to 5xx all traffic for 6 months? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

And is it on-going? From time to time, misteaks happen. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message

Re: [mailop] SCL Rating Level of consideration at Hotmail

That's a per-email issue, and they wouldn't typically look at it. It's all about what the Black Box known as SmartScreen thinks about the traffic, and that's based on Features of the email, domain rep, and other factors. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Yo

Re: [mailop] Old lists - how old?

Speaking for myself, if I were managing such mailings, anything longer than 3 months and I'd wanna toss it and start over. Or at the very least, send it out from a dedicated IP pool different from the ones used by the main lists. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam An

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

Certainly not with all spam traps, but if someone is reviewing the data, and trying to decide what to do with a sample, an "Open" message might get sent in error. But a reply should never be sent, and so a classical SpamTrap would not pass a COI test. ... unless it had gathered dust for a

Re: [mailop] *.protection.outlook.com permanent rejects (AS3140, etc) - impossible to get delisted

Need the IP ranges and last email from Hotmail Support to move forward, preferably off-list. But please remember that I'm not an escalation point. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

Re: [mailop] Microsoft mail Contact

On the one hand, there is *NO* Microsoft Mail contact on the list. There is me, but I'm not a point of escalation for, "Hotmail". The *ONLY* point of escalation is the Support Funnel; complaining here as such won't solve anything. And since neither incident has bothered to include the actual IP

Re: [mailop] Missing Message-ID?

If a sample email arrives from an external source with OUR message-id, we frown upon that. According to the RFC, it's a "SHOULD"... But no email sender in their right mind should emit traffic without a valid, internet-wide-unique Message-Id. Just makes you look like a spammer. And a word of cau

Re: [mailop] Missing Message-ID?

.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Missing Message-ID? On 18-03-19 02:34 PM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > If a sample email arrives from an external source with OUR message-id, we > frown upon that. > According to the RFC, it's a "SHOULD"... > But no email sender

Re: [mailop] Help using MS JMRP

As noted, having the IP ranges in question might help in getting to the bottom of the issue. 😊 Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Help using MS JMRP

Okay, well … you have my email address. Let me know when you ready to share the real IPs instead of RFC 1918 placeholders. 😊 Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

Sorry, what section of 2821? With all the different styles of Received: headers out there (Qmail comes to mind…), I wasn’t aware that there was in fact a single standard on the format. I mean, I really love the ( [n.n.n.n]) structure and all, but … If you could point me to a MUST reference,

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

ing how widespread this different format is, meaning how many Received headers might be getting ignored because they didn't fit the patterns. Thanks, Erwin On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Michael Wise via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: Sorry, what section of 2821? With all the

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

:41 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Received header address information On 18/04/18 23:03, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > Sorry, what section of 2821? 5821 has 4.4. Trace Information "MUST insert trace ("time stamp" or "Received")"

Re: [mailop] SCL missing in MSFT headers?

Can you share some sample headers? 😊 Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: mailop On Behalf Of Jenny Nespola Sent: F

Re: [mailop] Hotmail SNDS page down?

People are being poked, the issue is being worked. ☹ Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: John Possidente Sent: Wed

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Contact

I’d suggest either not repeating the email address twice, or wrapping the first instance in quotes? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Migrating to new IPs?

For Outlook/Hotmail/MSN, you can open a ticket for the new range, wait for the robot auto-ack, then the human response, and then reply and ask for, “Pre-emptive Accommodation”, and give them the previous IP addresses and how much traffic you expect to send to “Hotmail” addresses per day / hour,

Re: [mailop] GDPR and WHOIS PRIVACY

If we can't reliably figure out who owns a block, the speed of blocking will increase, and the size of the blocks will likewise increase, and ... well ... the False Positives will increase. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Proc

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