ISTR that we do it the way we do because we didn’t want to do an, “Off The Box 
Call” even to look up the rDNS.
Would love to see us go back to the previously-noted format, but I doubt that’s 
going to happen.

And there are so many other formats out there.

Aloha,
Michael.
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From: Erwin <joc...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:58 PM
To: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
Cc: mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Received header address information

Section 4.1.2 defines address-literal:

      address-literal = "[" IPv4-address-literal /

                            IPv6-address-literal /

                            General-address-literal "]"

            ; See section 4.1.3
Section 4.1.3 provides specifics for IPv4 (and IPv6 as Brandon kind of hinted):

      IPv4-address-literal = Snum 3("." Snum)

      IPv6-address-literal = "IPv6:" IPv6-addr
And then section 4.4 talks about the Received header itself (I won't quote all 
the relevant bits here out of that).

To respond to Steve, I am all about being flexible in the parsing, but (a) want 
to make sure I wasn't misreading the specs here and (b) figured it never hurts 
to bring it up and see if something can be improved to make life easier for 
myself and others going forward.

I'm wondering how widespread this different format is, meaning how many 
Received headers might be getting ignored because they didn't fit the patterns.

Thanks,
Erwin

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Michael Wise via mailop 
<mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:

Sorry, what section of 2821?
With all the different styles of Received: headers out there (Qmail comes to 
mind…), I wasn’t aware that there was in fact a single standard on the format.
I mean, I really love the (xxxx [n.n.n.n]) structure and all, but … If you 
could point me to a MUST reference, I’d be grateful.

Aloha,
Michael.
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From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org<mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of Erwin
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:41 PM
To: mailop <mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Subject: [mailop] Received header address information

Hi,

This may be old hat to some, but staring at the RFCs (specifically 2821) the 
only conclusion I see is that Microsoft is (or at least 
*.outlook.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Foutlook.com&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C82c6a24e30414114a25508d5a5765c7b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636596850158074661&sdata=UT6h9frOHbZ76bjwYqCtsS704%2B7hfWyw269vgWCHQmU%3D&reserved=0>
 servers are) violating the format of the Received headers here:

Received: from 
mta.email.thinkgeek.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmta.email.thinkgeek.com&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C82c6a24e30414114a25508d5a5765c7b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636596850158084665&sdata=3rTpbpv612yzA%2FwJp57jlbECMZxpc3GSX9ayn1I%2FxBU%3D&reserved=0>
 (66.231.88.32) by 
SN1NAM04FT019.mail.protection.outlook.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FSN1NAM04FT019.mail.protection.outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C82c6a24e30414114a25508d5a5765c7b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636596850158084665&sdata=MKriM7d6Wfg6pvQhxU29pkOpz1OqjqaozU5GZwan7qE%3D&reserved=0>
 (10.152.88.152) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_0, 
cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA_P384) id 15.20.675.14 via Frontend 
Transport; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:33:42 +0000

Should that IPv4 literal be enclosed with "[" and "]" tokens, either as 
([a.b.c.d]) or (hostname [a.b.c.d])?

Thanks in advance,
Erwin

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