Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-19 Thread Andy Onofrei via mailop
Bourdin) 2. Re: Spamcop IP blacklisted (Laura Atkins) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:16:48 + From: Mathieu Bourdin To: Benjamin BILLON , Laura Atkins , Michael Wise Cc: mailop Subject: Re:

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-19 Thread Laura Atkins
> On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Mathieu Bourdin wrote: > > >My problem is more when it doesn't work, while it should. > > That’s not a problem, that’s our job description. > > More seriously, as has been said before, the problem starts when the minimum > set of rules to abide to isn’t enough to

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-19 Thread Mathieu Bourdin
sue with rules getting more strict, we just need to know if it’s “new rules” or if it’s “old rules gone haywire” Mathieu Bourdin De : mailop De la part de Benjamin BILLON Envoyé : lundi 19 novembre 2018 12:13 À : Laura Atkins ; Michael Wise Cc : mailop Objet : Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-19 Thread Benjamin BILLON
ll good reputation. Behave, and it'll work. My problem is more when it doesn't work, while it should. -- Benjamin From: mailop On Behalf Of Laura Atkins Sent: lundi 19 novembre 2018 11:25 To: Michael Wise Cc: mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted On 16 Nov 2018, at 22

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-19 Thread Laura Atkins
> On 16 Nov 2018, at 22:23, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > Per email, no, bad test. > But if they keep not opening it, and others are reporting it as spam (or > other things), and especially if there’s no clear unsubscribe link … > Bad Things will happen to the reputation. > Automatically i

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
tails.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Benjamin BILLON Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 12:25 PM To: Michael Wise ; Michael Rathbun ; mailop Subject: RE: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted > if the email isn't opened, or there is no show of interest over the course of > the past 3 - 6 months ... I

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Michael Wise ; m...@honet.com; mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:33 PM Benjamin BILLON mailto:bbil...@splio.com>> wrote: > if the email isn't opened, or there is no show of interest over the course of > the past 3 - 6 months ... It'

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 11/16/2018 12:26 PM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: And if the email isn't opened, or there is no show of interest over the course of the past 3 - 6 months ... Are you advocating for some sort of per recipient tracking to be used as a signal to indicate if the email was opened (disposed)?

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:33 PM Benjamin BILLON wrote: > > if the email isn't opened, or there is no show of interest over the > course of the past 3 - 6 months ... It's mailing malpractice > > . . . > > But there are also those emails that we receive and never read, but that > we want to keep a

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 11/16/18 12:25 PM, Benjamin BILLON wrote: But there are also those emails that we receive and never read, but that we want to keep anyway. Bank statements. Order confirmation. That newsletter about woodworking tips. Or that one about dreamy holidays that I'd check for the next vacation, or

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Benjamin BILLON
details.aspx?id=18275> ? -Original Message- From: mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On Behalf Of Michael Rathbun Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 6:52 AM To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Michael Rathbun Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 6:52 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP bla

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 11/16/18 2:33 AM, Marco Franceschetti via mailop wrote: Our hypothesis is that Spamcop has activated a few obsolete domains (typos, repurposed domains) as traps from one day to the other, or radically and suddenly changed the threshold - therefore, a few brand/senders with not brilliant list

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Michael Rathbun
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:04:03 +, Laura Atkins wrote: >Last time I talked to a SC employee, which admittedly was more than a few >years ago, about their trap conditioning they were using a 2+ year cycle of >actively rejecting mail to trap domains. If your users can’t figure out how to >stop

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Marco Franceschetti via mailop
the last days. Regards From: Laura Atkins Sent: venerdì 16 novembre 2018 12:04 To: Marco Franceschetti Cc: feder...@aruba.it; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted On 16 Nov 2018, at 10:33, Marco Franceschetti via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: Hi

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Laura Atkins
> On 16 Nov 2018, at 10:33, Marco Franceschetti via mailop > wrote: > > Hi > > Same situation here at Contactlab (Italy). > Our hypothesis is that Spamcop has activated a few obsolete domains (typos, > repurposed domains) as traps from one day to the other, or radically and > suddenly cha

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Marco Franceschetti via mailop
<mailto:marco.francesche...@contactlab.com> Via Natale Battaglia, 12 | Milano contactlab.com/it<http://www.contactlab.com/it> From: mailop On Behalf Of Federico Bartolucci Sent: venerdì 16 novembre 2018 11:08 To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted Hi, I'm not

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Federico Bartolucci
Hi, I'm not from Spamcop but I manage a large email system in Italy, recently we often find out ips going into Spamcop for uncertain reasons, can I ask if you checked for compromised accounts used to send out emails? Regards federico bartolucci mail systems administrator Aruba.it Il 16 novemb

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Laura Atkins
Send mail to deput...@spamcop.net . They’re generally pretty helpful. You can also sign up for their report cards, which can sometimes be useful in identifying problems. https://wordtothewise.com/2013/11/getting-spamcop-summary-reports/

[mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

2018-11-16 Thread Andy Onofrei via mailop
Hi guys, Can someone from SpamCop reach out to me offlist ? Or if anyone has a contact for SpamCop or how it's the best way to dispute or at least to find out more details about a certain IP block ? Thank you Andrei Onofrei Dynamics 365 Email Deliverability Engineer andrei.onof...@microsoft.co