o think of them as
customers.
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if they share some parts behind the scenes)
I would be surprised if Microsoft do *not* use multiple blacklists
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email confirmation (and possibly other
electronic contacts) whilst the customer is present.
This will likely mean renegotiating with the energy company
and may leave no place for your business.
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On 5/17/25 9:55 AM, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
How would the pulic CA know which user on your domain actually sent the
request ? Validation proves the domain but trusts that the domain is
honest about the localpart.
The same way
know which user on your domain actually sent
the request ? Validation proves the domain but trusts that the domain
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policy to reject. But
double-especially for something that is supposed to be part of a
"Secure Email" feature.
This is of course hypothetical;
I have no idea whether Microsoft have had thoughts along this line.
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layer_s3.c:687:
# host smtp.qq.com
smtp.qq.com has address 43.129.255.54
smtp.qq.com has IPv6 address 240e:ff:f100:1009::120
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IP 194.111.216.99 is currently NOT blacklisted by dnsbl.justspam.org.
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anyone who might be interested in
doing that, please have them get in touch if they need help.
https://bugs.exim.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3131
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only politicians that must not use their own email
solutions ?
Why should an email from the boss to his employees require action by
third parties not under contract ?
Not to mention that megaphone communication with staff is a good way
to lose their trust and respect.
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Bank,
I don't know what this means.
Could you elaborate or give me some pointers ?
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their servers in.
Hope that clears up everything from my end!
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Now that I am in front of a keyboard I'll be a bit more expansive.
On Mon, 6 Jan 2025, Louis via mailop wrote (with some re-threading):
Op maandag 6 januari 2025 om 23:32, schreef Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
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On Mon, 6 Jan 2025, L. Mark Stone via mailop wrote:
If one of our cust
word with GMail) ?
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difference ?
A practical solution might be to get a gmail account
and submit all email to gmail users through it ?
If that works, you will have evidence that Gmail is
discriminating againt competitors ...
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024, Mark Alley via mailop wrote:
The ABNF seems pretty clear for what syntax is allowed for DKIM selectors:
RFC6376 Section 3.1:
selector = sub-domain *( "." sub-domain )
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xplicitly used in next component of the DNS query.
If my reading is correct and underscores *are* permitted,
a validator should not object to them, though like Mailhardener
it is reasonable to warn that non-compliant implementations may break.
Also, Uriports is wrong to say that the selector
feTp3T41+M6qrsgFAGkGU6FGrmwucVCgtvhONS0vq3cNMwXvm7nMAuaSE45MPRsN
22JVgGMW3zMAQZEMgz1euMlXcmlwFoI5rnXo28E6usdq/jpZR/jq2Cq9k5QJPEvF
XE5QUY1yA4CwEy+awtojNwsm/B22e7sKozUkWpJPRaElrkKIGUuSadGkk07c+oCM
ECqgrKIHXb8KaospjDRdag==;
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Any thoughts?
Any thoughts on where to ask the question?
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a good plce to start ?
Since much of the work is done daily, maybe it doesn't happen
in the MTA itself; is there is potential to share some parts ?
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currently fails for me with
connect: Network is unreachable
whilst
whois eu.org
does give me a report.
I have no idea whether Gmail includes whois in the algorithm.
I imagine that eu.org on OVH means your score is closer to the limit
even when everything else is
t;mynetworks" approach is by far the easiest.
I don't know what sorts of rate-limiting postfix can do but I would be
tempted to limit these flows by sender, by ip and by total flow.
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etter.
Those awful RSA keys. What's the consensus on using only ed25519 DKIM
signatures?
Not many people on this list are using ed25519 - something like
55 ed25519 to 1400 rsa on messages to this list this year.
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top two d= tags are 1e100.net and gmail.com
This is by manual grepping, but it does look like I am only counting
DKIM headers with x= and not any other headers with " x=".
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an
erent land-grab nature of commercial entities, there
will never be another email. So, if we don't hang on to what we have
now by being part of the infrastructure, it will be lost forever.
This is true and important.
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an
ot; or "Outlook" might be "reasons".
* I can imagine circumstances where being close to the receiving machines
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Have you tried an normal android phone without a sim as Google should send
the 2fa to that as well as sms ?
How would she add the phone to the account *without* the one-time
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.well-known/openid-configuration
https://accounts.google.com/.well-known/openid-configuration
I'll have to read https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-1_0.html
to see why the literal domain.com in one but not the other
(and the other version doesn't work for
a job spec that would let them know about and fix the issue.
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use the input, rather than the metadata, to determine
which decompressor to use (but using metadata might be quicker).
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exim (c1996)
the version number was bumped from IIRC 0.65 to 2.65
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the TLD is" problem
since it's not just the last segment.
Since the OP is new here, i will mention th Public Suffix list
https://publicsuffix.org/
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though maybe not for the OP with one user and 10 domains,
but I am paying less than his five bucks per month.
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DMARC)
I had not realized that SRS was possible without SPF.
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warded the mail,
but cannot prove that it really came from the original sender.
I think that this way GMail can reject the email,
or put it in the spam folder, but without blaming you.
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but not any record addresses ?
TonyFinch> Too late for that by about 10 years, I'm afraid.
Looks like that dream is getting further away :-(
We wont will that fight if we don't push for it.
On 25.04.24 14:59, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
Should someone here not know, RFC 7
ve them a
heads-up.
Kind regards,
Paul
PS: Of course, their software does not detect rejected messages/failed
deliveries, and their staff claims, it’s in the spam folder.
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I'm stuck with the architecture for the next couple of years.
So you are looking for someone to add support for that architecture to
Proxmox, maybe in a consortium with other interested parties ?
[ I am *not* bidding, nor interested in joining the consortium. ]
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Our inbound queuerunner operates in permanent queue running mode which
could lead to a retry every minute if the queue is nearly empty.
This is more or less "aggressive" ...
An *inbound* queue runner sounds like a special case
- I would expect it to be more "aggressive".
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in security.
For IMAP and POP, encryption is end-to-end, but there you know, and
presumably have control over, your users.
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supporting such a device (although I was aware that people
would have to decide again about allowing plain).
Has anyone checked what traffic is still using TLS 1.0 or TLS 1.1 ?
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is not new for openssl, but it is for gnutls.
Given that the advice for SMTP is often to allow tls 1.0 and 1.1,
rather than have it revert to unencrypted, this will is something to
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several list messages last month
with mail addresses with what looked to me like CJK
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st* thing they would like to do is to complain to any mail provider.
They just take it for granted that "it is so" that the recipient sometimes
doesn't get the email, and you have to live with it.
If nobody complains,
then a single complaint is likely to get at
I provide my opt-out preferences by ...
"visiting a single Internet Web page" ?
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nders ...
I don't have traffic from Alibaba so cannot judge for myself.
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customers put in clauses guaranteeing
no spam from addresses associated with with the customer's mail.
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rtner
Koli-Lõks OÜ (reg. no. 12815457, VAT ID EE101811635)
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is indeed bare linefeeds, your bounce message may be
leading him astray by suggesting he has sent bare carriage-returns.
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3 or 4
specific subdomain additions to a safelist from the
hypothetical block rule, and that would be it.
- Mark Alley
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2024, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote:
Andrew C Aitchison via mailop skrev den 2024-01-13 07:16:
[ Wearing an MTA developer's hat. ]
+1
I see that an MTA is supposed to remove existing Authentication-Results and
BIMI-Indicator headers, and that generally an MUA may use
t MTA received a message with these headers there is a risk
that the MUA would trust them.
Would it help if MUAs that don't actively support BIMI at least removed
these headers when delivering to local mailboxes ?
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of costs that far exceed those of the message itself.
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hough one of the aims of BIMI is to encourage
correct use of SPF/DKIM/DMARC.
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xplain how we will all know when to switch ?
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ir filters.
If they use forwarders, SPF will fail in the case the envelope sender
isn't rewritten. Check your logs for that.
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ively fewer messages I can only imagine
that is because their strike rate is better, which is *more* worrying.
What have I misunderstood ?
but I wouldn't be at all surprised if some sites still have a 90%+
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Am 11.11.2023 um 14:25 schrieb Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
:
[…]
I guess we need to look at ClientID
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-storey-smtp-client-id/ (SMTP)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yu-imap
r.ietf.org/doc/draft-storey-smtp-client-id/ (SMTP)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yu-imap-client-id/ (IMAP)
and OAuthBearer RFC7628
to see whether either or both could help us identify the incoming
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an
rd, alpine, mutt and fetchmail
to do to access Microsoft-hosted mailboxes ?
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miscategorized as SPAM.
Maybe the spammers are more likely to use ed25529 than legitimate mailers
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rding and the forwarding information is stored
on the mailstore, he wont know whether the domain is local or remote
until the mail store comes back on line.
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote:
Hi Simon,
On 30.09.2023 10:18, Simon Arlott via mailop wrote:
On 30/09/2023 08:50, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
I see that there is an Exim release candidate out on test at the moment
https://lists.exim.org/lurker/message
m/security/2023/09/critical-vulnerabilities-in-exim-threaten-over-250k-email-servers-worldwide/?comments=1
gives a more plausible stat.
[ A quick grep suggests 12 other mailop threads this year have mentioned exim. ]
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, Jay R. Ashworth via mailop wrote:
I haven't even heard exim *mentioned* in like 20 years; these stats can't
be right, can they?
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/millions-of-exim-mail-servers-expos
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:https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/38.152.0.0
... You may wish to check your rwhois data.
I have also seen "SWIP" mentioned in similar cases ...
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hat sort of response when tipping, then I am impressed.
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u want to see
how dozens of AV products get on with any particular virus
Use AV products by all means, but don't assume they will catch everything.
Do have plans for if/when you find something; both before and after it
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paper mail; why not email ?
Former staff don't have door keys.
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2023, ml+mailop--- via mailop wrote:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
Please could you indicate who you are and,
Why?
Sorry, I meant to ask for a name or an alias.
Why ?
Because I don't believe that "the paranoid curmudgeon from esmtp.or
d,
if appropriate, who you work for or represent ?
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I would think that considering the MX when overriding the response code
would be a worthwhile addition to try, whether the machine learning
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for the "v" tag.
"v=DMARC1;p=none;sp=none;pct=10;rua=mailto:dmarc-mas...@eu.org;ruf=mailto:dmarc-mas...@eu.org";
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reports
so far this year.
dmarc.ruf reports are not common, but on a busy site there will be
enough to need to have a policy for them.
I hadn't heard of the SPF tags before Friday.
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rrors by most SPF checking sites...
I asked one of the checker websites about that and recieved the reply:
RFC6652 is a proposed standard from 2012, but was replaced by DMARC in 2015.
DMARC reports on both SPF and DKIM.
Benoît, does the domain in question receive DMARC reports ?
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t see any advantage
to put against the cost of an extra connection setup and closedown ?
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(dated Sept 2004) which explains how SRS (without SPF)
is the answer to the problem SPF was supposed to solve !
[ I was actually looking for the theoretical slightly-open relay
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rwise it will be hell on the amount of emails we'll handle.
Many people use SPF failure (and DKIM, DMARC and ARC) to increase
spam-score, rather than an all-out block.
Do you have an actual measure of how much spam this is currently blocking ?
It *may* not be as bad as you thin
#x27;t come across anyone.
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Slavko via mailop wrote:
Dňa 25. marca 2023 17:11:48 UTC používateľ Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
napísal:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
I never understood different envelope senders for each attempt of a given
message. -- I can see different
submission time until delivery time.
I guess that having something to trace individual attempts
though the logs is useful if you are working at scale
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ce,
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every 2-3 months when they promote a new event.
I think you should try and send at least ~100 mails every day to keep an IP
warm. Otherwise you're a ghost...
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chine/user pairs
as long as an IMAP connection is using IDLE.
On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Giovanni Bechis via mailop wrote:
this would not work for me, on my servers ~6% of imap logins are
from bots.
*Successful* IMAP logins ?
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email account providers would filter their
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