Re: [mailop] Vodafone contact

2024-12-09 Thread Marco via mailop
On 09.12.2024 16:20 Anna Kotlikov via mailop wrote: > AH, thank you for the call out. Looking for a contact that can help > with Germany You have to specify the domain/host that is problematic VF in Germany acquired many companies. ___ mailop mailing li

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Steven Champeon via mailop
on Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 05:09:31PM +, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: > I do think the % of spam has dropped as the proportion of ‘legit’ > mail has increased. This definitely matches my recent experience, with undeniably small sample size (basically down to two users with various aliases at th

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread postfix--- via mailop
On 2024-12-09 12:09, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: I do think the % of spam has dropped as the proportion of ‘legit’ mail has increased. define spam? the malware kind I no longer see in my mailbox and I don't keep statistics (filtering outsourced), but when I book a hotel room, in addition

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 09Dec24, John Levine via mailop apparently wrote: > It has been my impression that for many years about 90% of the mail a > system typically Does anyone have research which describes a "typical" mail system? > a lot of attempted deliveries on my small MTAs. Does anyone have research which cor

Re: [mailop] Vodafone contact

2024-12-09 Thread Jochen Meyer via mailop
AH, thank you for the call out. Looking for a contact that can help with Germany Thanks!On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 10:38 AM Lukas Tribus wrote:On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 at 16:15, Anna Kotlikov via mailop wrote: > > Can someone from Vodafone please contact me directly? I nee

[mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Graeme Fowler via mailop
If I can find enough spoons tomorrow, I'll do some spelunking of our logs at work. From memory, we run at a massive on connect and pre-DATA rejection rate for a variety of reasons then about 75% post-DATA. I could be remembering badly though as my brain is basically mush at present. Graeme ___

Re: [mailop] Vodafone contact

2024-12-09 Thread Anna Kotlikov via mailop
AH, thank you for the call out. Looking for a contact that can help with Germany Thanks! On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 10:38 AM Lukas Tribus wrote: > On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 at 16:15, Anna Kotlikov via mailop > wrote: > > > > Can someone from Vodafone please contact me directly? I need assistance > inve

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
That's the problem with 'statistics'.. Used to be almost every spam protection vendor claimed ridiculously high numbers, but that is because they processed 'every' attempt. Since most email servers utilize thing like RBL's and rate limiters, the SMTP layer doesn't need to process so much.. A

Re: [mailop] Gmail emoji reactions

2024-12-09 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 2:25 AM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 8.12.2024 o godz. 20:27:51 postfix--- via mailop pisze: > > FACT: languages are living bodies of conventions common to two or > > more individuals. Emojis are the glyphs of new languages in the > > making. I get to learn eve

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Camille - Clean Mailbox via mailop
On 3.2M emails over the last 30 days, 0.6% infected, 26.5% spam, 23.6% massmails (newsletters), 2.2% phishing. Camille Le 09/12/2024 à 17:59, John Levine via mailop a écrit : It has been my impression that for many years about 90% of the mail a system typically recieves is spam. Most of it is

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 09.12.2024 um 13:03:11 Uhr schrieb Doug McIntyre via mailop: > 57% is classified as marketing email. Not SPAM, but not HAM either. > Ie. companies you've done business with sending you advertising, > order updates sometimes fall in here. If they send you advertising without consent I treat tha

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Doug McIntyre via mailop
On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 11:59:50AM -0500, John Levine via mailop wrote: > I ask because I've ben looking at a paper that asserts that the number > is about 50% and has been for a long time, which just seems wrong. > > What sort of numbers to people here see? My primary email domain has multiple l

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 9.12.2024 o godz. 11:59:50 John Levine via mailop pisze: > It has been my impression that for many years about 90% of the mail a > system typically recieves is spam. Most of it is easy to filter so > the amount that gets into a user's mailbox is a lot less. I sure see > a lot of attempted d

Re: [mailop] Gmail emoji reactions

2024-12-09 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 9.12.2024 o godz. 18:34:12 Ralph Seichter via mailop pisze: > Remembering what I learned a long time ago: The formal definition of > "language" as used in communications research is the transmission of > information by means of a shared system of symbols and rules. Now if > only I could remem

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread John R Levine via mailop
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, Marco Moock wrote: Since 1st Nov, I got 44 delivery attempts that were rejected because of dnsbl. Although, about 100 rejected relaying. Maybe I receive one spam mail per month. I believe you, but that number is way too low to be useful. On my rather small mail system yeste

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 09.12.24 um 17:59 schrieb John Levine via mailop: I ask because I've ben looking at a paper that asserts that the number is about 50% and has been for a long time, which just seems wrong. At our small company mail server, it's about right. rspamd says 29% reject, 11% greylist, 3% each addin

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 9 Dec 2024 11:59:50 -0500 schrieb John Levine via mailop : > It has been my impression that for many years about 90% of the mail a > system typically recieves is spam. Most of it is easy to filter so > the amount that gets into a user's mailbox is a lot less. I sure see > a lot of attempted d

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread John Levine via mailop
It’s this draft, not formally published.IEEE Xplore Full-Text PDF:ieeexplore.ieee.orgPlease consider the environment before reading this message.John Levine, jo...@taugh.com On Dec 9, 2024, at 12:09, Dave Crocker wrote: On 12/9/2024 8:59 AM, John Levine via mail

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
Moin, On 09.12.24 18:09, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: > I do think the % of spam has dropped as the proportion of ‘legit’ mail > has increased. Back when spam was 90% of mail, we didn’t have multiple > social networks sending billions of emails a day about activity on the > sites. We didn’t have

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On 9 Dec 2024 11:59:50 -0500, John Levine via mailop wrote: >What sort of numbers to people here see? Are there any credible >published estimates? Way too many of the numbers I see are basically >someone says I set up a mailbox and counted mail messages for a week >and then multiplied by ten bi

Re: [mailop] Gmail emoji reactions

2024-12-09 Thread Ralph Seichter via mailop
* Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop: > If we did travel into realms of philosophy (which your email > definitely did :)), then it is worth to note that a language is > primarily something that one speaks, not writes. Writing is secondary > to spoken language. You cannot speak emojis, so it's not a language

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 12/9/2024 8:59 AM, John Levine via mailop wrote: I ask because I've ben looking at a paper that asserts that the number is about 50% and has been for a long time, which just seems wrong. If the paper is published, what is the citation to it? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking

Re: [mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 9 Dec 2024, at 16:59, John Levine via mailop wrote: > > It has been my impression that for many years about 90% of the mail a > system typically recieves is spam. Most of it is easy to filter so > the amount that gets into a user's mailbox is a lot less. I sure see > a lot of attempted d

[mailop] How much mail is spam?

2024-12-09 Thread John Levine via mailop
It has been my impression that for many years about 90% of the mail a system typically recieves is spam. Most of it is easy to filter so the amount that gets into a user's mailbox is a lot less. I sure see a lot of attempted deliveries on my small MTAs. I ask because I've ben looking at a paper

Re: [mailop] [E] Since the 5th Dec we have had no further Yahoo complaints from the FBL

2024-12-09 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 5:59 AM Daniel Thorpe via mailop wrote: > > > Is it possible for someone from Yahoo to contact me off list to check this > out? > There are support addresses listed here: https://senders.yahooinc.com/complaint-feedback-loop/ And here: https://senders.yahooinc.com/contact/

Re: [mailop] Vodafone contact

2024-12-09 Thread Lukas Tribus via mailop
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 at 16:15, Anna Kotlikov via mailop wrote: > > Can someone from Vodafone please contact me directly? I need assistance > investigating some suspicious behaviour for several of your hosted domains on > behalf of a client. Vodafone operates in a large number of countries and as

Re: [mailop] Gmail emoji reactions

2024-12-09 Thread Scott Q. via mailop
At least 55% of communication is non-verbal, with vocal (but not verbal) occupying a large percentage as well. Spoken language is a very small part of communication. If an emoji can convey a facial expression/emotion then that would be a very valid form of communication. Scott​​ On Monday, 09/12

[mailop] Vodafone contact

2024-12-09 Thread Anna Kotlikov via mailop
Can someone from Vodafone please contact me directly? I need assistance investigating some suspicious behaviour for several of your hosted domains on behalf of a client. Thank you so much! ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org

[mailop] Since the 5th Dec we have had no further Yahoo complaints from the FBL

2024-12-09 Thread Daniel Thorpe via mailop
Hi, Is it possible for someone from Yahoo to contact me off list to check this out? We as Spotler Group have multiple ESP products within the company. We have a single Yahoo Sender Hub login that contains all our product domains in the FBL setup. All of them bar one are working fine. The one

Re: [mailop] Gmail emoji reactions

2024-12-09 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 8.12.2024 o godz. 20:27:51 postfix--- via mailop pisze: > FACT: languages are living bodies of conventions common to two or > more individuals. Emojis are the glyphs of new languages in the > making. I get to learn every day when my teenager communicates with > me. Yes, it is sometimes fru