[MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Max Andersen
Hi, Latest version of mailmate that I downloaded/updated to yesterday now crashes a few seconds after it have shown the main window. its too short for me to go check if there is a new update or even rollback. thus i'm now "stuck" using gmail webui...please help :) -- /max http://about.me/maxan

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Jan Erik Moström
On 30 Sep 2020, at 11:21, Max Andersen wrote: thus i'm now "stuck" using gmail webui...please help :) Can't you go to the web site and download from there? https://freron.com/download/ = jem ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Gavan Schneider
On 30 Sep 2020, at 19:21, Max Andersen wrote: Latest version of mailmate that I downloaded/updated to yesterday now crashes a few seconds after it have shown the main window. its too short for me to go check if there is a new update or even rollback. That is similar to my recent problem — re

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Max Andersen
i just see the screen popup showing tree and message list and first message rendered and then it dies quickly there after. On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gavan Schneider wrote: > On 30 Sep 2020, at 19:21, Max Andersen wrote: > > > Latest version of mailmate that I downloaded/updated to yesterd

[MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Jim Cook
Same problem here. Seemed to start when I upgraded to MacOS 10.15.7 last night though may be a coincidence. Seems to be related to connecting to a particular IMAP source. Not related to version of Mailmate as I tried reverting to latest pubic build (r5673) and no difference. This email written

[MlMt] Keybindings for non-US keyboards

2020-09-30 Thread Charlie Clark
Hi, I usually use a German keymapping which means that certain common application keyboard shortcuts such as anything involving square or curly brackets are a challenge as I have to remember these. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, so my question is: how do others manage with the commands like

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Gavan Schneider
On 30 Sep 2020, at 21:03, Max Andersen wrote: i just see the screen popup showing tree and message list and first message rendered and then it dies quickly there after. While this was happening did you just happen to notice in what state your internet connection might have been? If your int

Re: [MlMt] "Folders" and Unread Messages

2020-09-30 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 28 Sep 2020, at 15:08, Oliver Groschopp wrote: > On 28 Sep 2020, at 10:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > >> On 26 Sep 2020, at 19:55, Oliver Groschopp wrote: >> >>> I have created a folder in Mailmate (Smart Mailbox) There I put all my >>> mails from forums under it. >>> >>> Now I want to see th

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Max Andersen
normal internet - i'm on wired connection and everything else was fine. On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:27 PM Gavan Schneider wrote: > On 30 Sep 2020, at 21:03, Max Andersen wrote: > > > i just see the screen popup showing tree and message list and first > > message > > rendered and then it dies quick

Re: [MlMt] big sur, new message view window issue

2020-09-30 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 28 Sep 2020, at 17:02, Glenn Parker wrote: > On Catalina 10.15.6 and MailMate 1.13.2 (5721) I am seeing 3 instances of > MTLCompilerService spawned each time I open a message viewer or navigate the > viewer to a different message. I seem to be able to trigger these when viewing emails contai

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Max Andersen
so i downloaded new version - it starts up ...but still crashes - just takes a few more seconds.;/ On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:47 AM Jan Erik Moström wrote: > On 30 Sep 2020, at 11:21, Max Andersen wrote: > > > thus i'm now "stuck" using gmail webui...please help :) > > Can't you go to the web si

Re: [MlMt] Comments on migrating from Mulberry (and Thunderbird)

2020-09-30 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 29 Sep 2020, at 14:17, Raza Rizvi wrote: >>> 3. I have MmDeleteBehavior -string "markAsDeleted" but is there an Expunge >>> on disconnect option somewhere? I do it manually using the Experimental 2.0 >>> prefs checkbox notes. >> >> No, but I think this one works (which might be what you actua

Re: [MlMt] big sur, new message view window issue

2020-09-30 Thread Marco Qualizza
I'll chime in here with my own observations: * The processes seem to be related to opening new emails (I get both an "about:" and some number of MTLCompilerServices) * The processes don't seem to spawn when opening a previously-opened email * W.R.T. memory consumption -- I haven't noticed whet

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 30 Sep 2020, at 13:37, Jim Cook wrote: > I found one source that was causing the crash (not a Google or Microsoft > email server) hosted at `genotec.ch`, sorry I don’t know what software the > server is running (or if that’s relevant). Thanks for the details. Let's debug this one off list.

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 30 Sep 2020, at 15:04, Max Andersen wrote: > so i downloaded new version - it starts up ...but still crashes - just > takes a few more seconds.;/ Please also send me the output (after a crash) in a Terminal window if you launch MailMate like this: /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/

Re: [MlMt] big sur, new message view window issue

2020-09-30 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 30 Sep 2020, at 15:15, Marco Qualizza wrote: > I'll chime in here with my own observations: > > * The processes seem to be related to opening new emails (I get both an > "about:" and some number of MTLCompilerServices) That makes sense. > * The processes don't seem to spawn when opening a pr

Re: [MlMt] big sur, new message view window issue

2020-09-30 Thread Marco Qualizza
With regards to memory consumption, I should clarify: the numbers I quoted include all of the processes spawned by MailMate. Currently, according to Activity Monitor, MailMate itself is running at a (relatively) svelte 950MB, and My All Messages shows 311097 (with All / Junk / Deleted at 31117

Re: [MlMt] big sur, new message view window issue

2020-09-30 Thread Glenn Parker
On 30 Sep 2020, at 9:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: When I reduce the number of “about:” processes running then I believe it should also decrease the number of MTLCompilerServices (and the amount of memory used). One concern is that these processes don’t seem to be going away after I close a m

Re: [MlMt] big sur, new message view window issue

2020-09-30 Thread Glenn Parker
On 30 Sep 2020, at 11:09, Glenn Parker wrote: One concern is that these processes don’t seem to be going away after I close a message view. I’m using 5722 and I currently have 11 “about:” processes and 14 MTLCompilerService processes. After just a few more minutes of email browsing, I now have

Re: [MlMt] Keybindings for non-US keyboards

2020-09-30 Thread Bill Cole
On 30 Sep 2020, at 7:58, Charlie Clark wrote: Increase indentation cmd + [ becomes be alt + cmd + 6 on my keyboard And I've no idea how to get alt + cmd + [ because I'd need alt twice! Typically "Alt" (common on Windows keyboards) is mapped to the Mac "Option" key rather than "Command" (a.k.a

Re: [MlMt] big sur, new message view window issue

2020-09-30 Thread Glenn Parker
On 30 Sep 2020, at 11:21, Glenn Parker wrote: On 30 Sep 2020, at 11:09, Glenn Parker wrote: One concern is that these processes don’t seem to be going away after I close a message view. I’m using 5722 and I currently have 11 “about:” processes and 14 MTLCompilerService processes. After just

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Max Andersen
I would happily use Help > send feedback but it doesn't stay up long enough for me to click there. is there a email i can use instead ? On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:21 PM Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 30 Sep 2020, at 15:04, Max Andersen wrote: > > so i downloaded new version - it starts up ...but

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Max Andersen
btw. everytime it starts up it says its sending a crash report... On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 5:34 PM Max Andersen wrote: > I would happily use Help > send feedback but it doesn't stay up long > enough for me to click there. > > is there a email i can use instead ? > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:21 P

Re: [MlMt] latest version/update crashes during load..help?

2020-09-30 Thread Max Andersen
output from running in commandline is quite long but here is what looks like the bad ending: Triggered event display_html with 0 bundle commands (input size: 1316, opts: kNone) 00:01:30: T0 1:30.02: ( 0:00.00/ 0:00.04)/( 0:00.00/ 0:00.04) elapsed for 'didChangeCollection (message view)' (3) 00:0

Re: [MlMt] Keybindings for non-US keyboards

2020-09-30 Thread Robert Brenstein
He meant that to produce the left square bracket on the German keyboard, he needs to press alt-5 (option-5 if you will). So how do you produce a shortcut that itself requests the alt key to be hold. Will the alt key be recognized doubly, once to produce the bracket and then to produce the short

[MlMt] can send mail but new mail doesn't download into inbox

2020-09-30 Thread Ken Pope
I’m using MM 1.13.2 (5673) on Catalina 10.15.7. Everything perfect until a few hours ago when: (a) although I can send mail, new mail doesn’t appear in my inbox; (b) my account (k...@kenpope.com) under “sources” turned red, and all the boxes under it went from black to light gray; & (c) althou

[MlMt] nuclear option

2020-09-30 Thread Randy Bush
can you think of a simple way a user could have inadvertantly wiped all mail in their account's mailboxen aside from the imap entry 0? i keep daily backup of their mail, but the drama can be excessive :) randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.fr

Re: [MlMt] can send mail but new mail doesn't download into inbox

2020-09-30 Thread Robert Brenstein
What you describe is a case when the account is taken offline in MM. Such a thing happened to me a couple times when one of my providers had problems for a while and MM could not connect. You can also take an account offline as a user, which I also did a few times. If you go to the sources se

Re: [MlMt] nuclear option

2020-09-30 Thread a . takacs
Sorry to hear... You mean on a server ?With mailmate as client ? On 30 Sep 2020 20:57, Randy Bush wrote:can you think of a simple way a user could have inadvertantly wiped all mail in their account's mailboxen aside from the imap entry 0?  i keep daily backup of their mail, but the drama can be ex

Re: [MlMt] can send mail but new mail doesn't download into inbox

2020-09-30 Thread Bill Cole
On 30 Sep 2020, at 14:40, Ken Pope wrote: I’m using MM 1.13.2 (5673) on Catalina 10.15.7. Everything perfect until a few hours ago when: (a) although I can send mail, new mail doesn’t appear in my inbox; (b) my account (k...@kenpope.com) under “sources” turned red, and all the boxes under it

Re: [MlMt] nuclear option

2020-09-30 Thread Antonio Leding
I doubt this is even remotely related but I will say that for some MM users (i.e. ME), inadvertently wiping out mail can be quite easy. Here’s how it happened… * I receive some mail alert that is clicked on either intentionally or by circumstance. * This will take you directly to the “All M

Re: [MlMt] Keybindings for non-US keyboards

2020-09-30 Thread Charlie Clark
On 30 Sep 2020, at 17:39, Robert Brenstein wrote: He meant that to produce the left square bracket on the German keyboard, he needs to press alt-5 (option-5 if you will). So how do you produce a shortcut that itself requests the alt key to be hold. Will the alt key be recognized doubly, once t

Re: [MlMt] can send mail but new mail doesn't download into inbox

2020-09-30 Thread Ken Pope
Thanks so much! I've shut off the other mail clients until this problem can be solved. As you suggested, I used the "take account online" function, which turned the source account back from red to black, and all the folders underneath back to black from gray. (Thanks, again!) However, though

Re: [MlMt] nuclear option

2020-09-30 Thread Randy Bush
> [1 ] > Sorry to hear... > > You mean on a server ? > > With mailmate as client ? > > On 30 Sep 2020 20:57, Randy Bush wrote: > > can you think of a simple way a user could have inadvertantly wiped all > mail in their account's mailboxen aside from the imap entry 0? i keep > daily back

Re: [MlMt] can send mail but new mail doesn't download into inbox

2020-09-30 Thread Ken Pope
Thanks again to Robert and Bill! The problem finally resolved when I changed the ports that had always worked until today (995, 465) to 993 & 587. On 30 Sep 2020, at 16:34, Ken Pope wrote: Thanks so much! I've shut off the other mail clients until this problem can be solved. As you sugge