n state agencies to purchase our stuff. I
> guess, in a way, I'm against state agencies for the reasons I stated
> above. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:32 AM, carlene knight wrote:
>
> Hi Mark:
>
> I certainly don't
Hi Donna:
Try pressing Command Option Escape all at once. A dialog should pop up asking
you which program you want to quit.. Simply arrow to Text Edit which will
probably say not responding and hit enter. The program has crashed.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
I only have to do the steps I mentioned when the program won't shut down with
Command q and it's giving you a nonstop busy signal. It will tell you in the
box that comes up whether the program is responding or not. If Text Edit is
not responding then simply hit return to select it and then rel
or better yet, call Microsoft and tell them that Apple is making their products
accessible out of the box, why can't they. :) I agree with you 100% I have
always hated the word "disabled." It sounds like everything is disabled, not
just my eyes. I love my work place because people have disc
Urrggg! We could get into a discussion about the NFB as I think they have made
a lot of things worse in pretending we don't have different needs than the
sighted workd. but I think that's an OT subject. I could write essays about
it though. As I said, the sales people at Apple stores should
ommand Option Q,
> but to no avail.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:55 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>
>> Hi Donna:
>>
>> Try pressing Command Option Escape all at once. A dialog should pop
>> up asking you which program you want to quit.. Simply
es who are working to
> make even displays more affordable and accepting to the universal
> design market. In the 1980's, Apple tried an experiment, using an
> ordinary, dot matrix printer, to produce braille. It wasn't the best
> quality braille, but it was an exp
t; Stateside, which costs the state thousands of dollars which they could
>> probably find other revenues to use elsewhere.There are a handful of
>> us who are blind and visually-impaired Macusers, but that numberis
>> increasing, as the word about VoiceOver gets out. Richi
Some of the organizations give you full ownership and some don't. For the ones
that do there is usually a fee of about $200.
On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> The difference, as i understand it, and correct me if i'm wrong here, is that
> in the States, you actually ow
One thing that needs to be addressed here is that there are employers who can't
afford to provide the necessary items needed for their visually impaired
employees to do the job. Whether you think that's just an excuse for them or
not, The bottom line is that I didn't have access to computers e
Hi:
I can't seem to find an attachment in a message. Usually I can but this one
seems to be hidden from VO somehow. I had to ask the gentleman who sent it to
me what in the world it said. Is there anything I can do to show this strange
and potentially important attachment or any I might get
of no
> use to the client for present or future purposes. Richie Gardenhire,
> Anchorage, Alaska.
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 12:03 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>
> One thing that needs to be addressed here is that there are employers
> who can't afford to provide the necessary ite
t directly from within the message, but I
> do not remember how to do this.
>
> HTH
>
> TC
>
> James
>>
> On 1 Dec 2009, at 22:09, carlene knight wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I can't seem to find an attachment in a message. Usually I can but this
Hi:
What would make my MacMini say "selection replaced 0 items selected" every few
minutes? How would I go about fixing this problem because every time it does
this Voiceover stops reading. If I'm doing something away from the computer,
it drives me nuts after a while. I've relaunched Finde
t; technical expertise throughout the company) to do so. And if it
>>>>> brings the prices down, and Microsoft does, for example, develop a
>>>>> mechanism by which Windows can be installed out of the box without
>>>>> sighted assistance, companies such as
Vo/command f5 will also route the mouse and VO cursors together. when in doubt
I try that.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 10:39 AM, John André Netland wrote:
> Hi Christina,
>
> I checked out the URL you provided, and had no problems with the pop-up menus
> you described. I used both VO-space and NumPad C
to your users folder
> 2. Find the correct user(if there is more than one)
> 3. Navigate to the Preferences folder which is inside the Library folder and
> remove the apple.com.VoiceOver.plist files
>
> Hope this helps
>
> TC
> James
> On 2 Dec 2009, at 19:09, ca
is going on. They've been most helpful to me in
> situations such as this. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 10:09 AM, carlene knight wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> What would make my MacMini say "selection replaced 0 items selected&qu
thanks Esther. That will make things a bit easier.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Carlene and James,
>
> James & Nash wrote:
>>
>> In my experience, this usually happens when you are either mounting
>> or removing either an external HD or a DMG file. Have you tried
>> tr
and Microsoft does, for example, develop a
>>>> mechanism by which Windows can be installed out of the box without
>>>> sighted assistance, companies such as Freedom Scientific would then
>>>> be forced to either go with the trend; otherwise, they would lose
I must be doing something wrong. What do I type in the folder name?
Library/preferences was not found. I feel really stupid.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Carlene and James,
>
> James & Nash wrote:
>>
>> In my experience, this usually happens when you are either mounting
ing the file. You could save a copy to your Desktop or other
> location. What happens when you next use the application is that a new
> preference file gets generated, but with default values. If you find that
> the preference file was not the source of your problems, you can always
f12.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:59 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
> What's the command to brinb up the dashboard again?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark BurningHawk Baxter [mailto:markbaxte...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:14 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subje
ail.
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:09 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>
>> I must be doing something wrong. What do I type in the folder name?
>> Library/preferences was not found. I feel really stupid.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Esther wrote:
>>
>&
9, at 4:59 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
> This subject line is driving me nuts as every time I hear it I think it is VO
> talking and not a subject for an email.
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:09 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>
>> I must be doing something wrong. What do I type in the folder
Hi:
Has anybody tried Spaces lately? I think I'll give it a go.
On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:39 PM, James & Nash wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is not very helpful, but speaking from past experience - excluding the
> times I've pestered them about Spaces, Apple have been very forthcoming with
> advice and
Hi:
One thing that hasn't been said yet is the fact that the Mac is so much more
stable than the PC. programs don't bog down. My husband has had his MacMini
running for nearly four weeks before. He only rebooted to install an update.
Try doing that on a Pc without problems. :) The Mac is f
omethings said about windows pc's are just not
> factual.
>
> Rick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "carlene knight"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
>
>
> Hi:
> One thing
Hi:
For me, the from field says Macvisionaries but the subject column shows
whatever the writer of the message put in the subject field.
On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:07 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> Only one of the codeks works in the mac vt though unfortunately. So we're
> still stuck going to windows
Hi:
Has anybody had a problem with ITunes crashing while listening to the radio
stations? It's happening to me way too much. Thanks.
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When I played with one in the store, I was able to hear it fine, but I had
trouble knowing where the letters were also. I suppose you would get used to
that somewhat, but I can't see myself being very proficient typing with it.
On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:48 AM, May McDonald wrote:
> Once you lea
t they will set up classes on Fridays for those
> of us who want them in the Anchorage area. Richie Gardenhire,
> anchorage, Alaska.
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:58 AM, carlene knight wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> When I played with one in the store, I was able to hear it
I'd like to know what you guys think is the vest player, the Victor Reader
Stream, PDP1 Booksense, or the IPod Touch?
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Hi:
Make sure that you are interacting with the text. If so, it should work.
Hope that helps.
On Dec 8, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Rich Ring wrote:
> We are using a Mac Book Pro running Leopard. I was under the impression that
> in a text edit document one could move a word at a time by using bo lef
The touch doesn't read Daisy format does it? Can you convert Daisy to a format
the Touch can use?
On Dec 8, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Matt Roberts wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 6:14 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>
>> I'd like to know what you guys think is the vest player, the Vi
uld play NLS or RFB&D. Although I realize not everyone has access
>> to these services so it depends what you want to play on your device
>> to decide which one will be best for you.
>>
>> Christina
>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Matt Roberts wrote:
>>
>&
Hi:
I don't see my messages either but when somebody response to something that
I've sent I can be relatively sure that my message made it. Quite often if you
look in a thread if it's continuous, you can see your post in that thread. I
think that my sent messages end up in the trash rather th
You might also want to see if those stations are available on ITunes. I use
the ITunes radio on a regular basis.
On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:34 AM, william lomas wrote:
> you can't now as it all using that damn iplayer which is flash based
>
> On 9 Dec 2009, at 14:50, James & Nash wrote:
>
>> Hey W
I just found out that you can use the option up arrow command that Donna
posted for getting to the beginning and end of documents as well. Let me tell
you, that will save me a lot of time.
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I meant command, not option. sorry. I've had a bad computer day. :)
On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Carleen,
>
> carlene knight wrote:
>
>> I just found out that you can use the option up arrow command that
>> Donna posted for gettin
I told you guys I was having a bad computer day. Esther, I forgot to
thank you for the info. What would I do without you guys and your infinite
patience.
On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Carleen,
>
> carlene knight wrote:
>
>> I just found out th
Hi:
Though I like Voiceover and the OSX format, I do wish there was a secondary
program like NVDa as it can read some web pages that neither JAWS nor Voiceover
can. One in particular is a lot of the link labels at www.eddietrunk.com.
On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:38 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> Hello,
I never tried Thunderbird 2, but 3.0 is not accessible. We tried it out.
Voiceover found some of the buttons but that's about it.
On Dec 14, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> I noticed that the final 3.0 release of Thunderbird 3 for MacOSX came
> out last week. Last I read the betas were
Hi James;
Usually when that happens it is informing you that there is a link or button
you can click on for more information about the particular subject of that line
you just read. For instance if you were reading newspaper article about an
ongoing news story, you might see this when referenc
Hi Robert:
Press enter on the message you wish to reply too. then shift tab to message
headers. Press shift command to highlight the address. Then VO/shift m to
the context menu. Choose reply to sender. A new message addressed to the
sender will open automatically Hope that helps.
On Dec
it? I will
> go back and check.
>
> Thanks again
>
> TC
> James
> On 14 Dec 2009, at 19:31, carlene knight wrote:
>
>> Hi James;
>>
>> Usually when that happens it is informing you that there is a link or button
>> you can click on for more informatio
t; Hi carlene,
>
> You can pick any news story on the BBC site, but here is the article I was
> reading. I would be curious to see if you get the same results as I did.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8411318.stm
>
> Thanks for your help
> TC
> J
It's not.
On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> Apparently a new version was released November 30 (I'm a bit behind) but
> the GUI seems no more accessible than it was before.
>
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time on news pages. Danish ones in particular,
>>> really.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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Hi: I was under the impression that VO was accessible with Google, butte
lately I just get images images images, well you get the idea. I see nothing
but images.
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I found out that for some reason I got on Google/images. that explains it
though I don't know how that happened as it did yesterday too. I clicked on
settings and then checked the URL and that's what had happened. Live and
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> James
> On 14 Dec 2009, at 21:06, carlene knight wrote:
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>> Hi James;
>>
>> I didn't encounter them in the article itself, but the page is full of them.
>> Did you use VO/a to read the
Well somebody had better get their butt in gear and make themselves a VLC
developer huh. :) While they're at it they can help Mozilla.
On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> Apparently there are no developers left work on the Mac version of
> Virtual Lan Client, the media player th
To ad to this, I find text by using the item chooser which I find easier to use
than the web item rotor. I simply start typing in the name of the link I
clicked on to obtain the text and then arrow down until I find the text. I've
gotten pretty quick at it. So now that I know how to get to th
I just hit vo/command h until I get to the right heading. Hope that helps.
On Dec 17, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Will,
>
> On Dec 17, 2009, at 4:39 PM, william lomas wrote:
>> on the mac say if I just want to jump to heading level 1's how do
>> i do this?
> You use the Web
On Dec 18, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I also have an odd thing going on with the spell checker in mail. I have it
> set to not autocorrect and sometimes it does anyway. Let me tell you, I have
> seen some strange sentences because of that. :)
> You might try goin
Ok, let's give this guy a break as he knows it's happening now.
On Dec 21, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Matt Roberts wrote:
>> On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote:
>>
>>> I have no idea where you get the idea that I sent this more than
>>> once. I sent it exactly once and got a response an h
HI;
Is there any quic way to pause an ITouch as I have lost my ear buds already. I
have others but they don't have controls on them. My husband says there isn't
a way but I hope he's wrong as I am having a devil of a time finding the pause
button. I have just been pulling the headset out.
ari or mail for example, it will not
> work. Do you guys have the same results?
> On Dec 28, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
>
>> do a two fingered double tap with the machine unlocked and that will
>> pause/play.
>> On 2009-12-27, at 8:15 PM, carlene knight wrot
it's easy to listen too once set up, but I needed sighted help initially. Once
set up you can simply double tap on the Pandora Icon that's created on your
ITouch and it plays. It will send confirmation messages to your computer
saying your IPhone is now ready or something to that effect, but i
You just need to restore the phone back to its original state if you have a
problem with it. The risk is small that something should happen as a result of
the jail breaking, but of course, I didn't say there is no chance. My husband
has jail broken his, but I would be afraid to try it myself.
HI:
The item chooser simply allows you to select something on a screen. For
instance if you are using Safari and you have chosen a news story link, you
could start typing the name of the story once you have brought the item
chooser up with VO/i and it would find it for you. it may show a li
when in the folder you can try command a to select all and then hit the delete
key. I've done this when that error popped up. Hope that helps.
On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi there.
> I've got quite many objects in my trash that i want to get rid of, amongst
> those o
I can tell you that the e-reader from Palm that works well for smart phones
and devices including the IPhone and IPod Touch is not Vo accessible.
On Jan 4, 2010, at 6:13 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Donna,
>
> On Jan 4, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>
>> When browsing in the App
My tab key seems to only find the links, no other elements or text on the page.
Maybe I can set it up so it behaves a bit differently this way. thanks.
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi Anne,
>
> I also have my Tab key set to highlight every item on a web-age. Off-
> hand,
I use the item chooser a whole lot. I also use vo/left and right arrows and
vo/a to read text. It works very nicely for me. I browse links with the tab
key if I don't have a specific thing in mind to look for with the item chooser.
Occasionally I use the web rodor, but not that much.
On Jan
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Hi:
Does anybody know how to get my chime back in ITunes when something is
completed? I suremiss it as I never know for sure whether my IPod synched
right, or the CD ITunes is adding to my library is completely and successfully
added? Well I figured out another way to do the latter, howeve
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not help much, I think but I'm not sure, isn't there a way to have
> the CD be ejected automatically after burn or import? But maybe you can go in
> the preferences menu, not sure maybe something there. Hope this helps,
> Courtney
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>> I have a mini also, and personally I wish I could get mine just to eject it
>> so I don't have to watch it every second. But to each there own I guess.
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>> when the unit is in the same location. Jus
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he interface and the way in which you
> can mail translated text. Their summary:
>
> All things aside, this app is a great value for all of the features that it
> contains. Especially if you are really planning on using more than one of the
> 27 languages in this app is definitely worth
ample), but not enough to buy the app .
>>> I note that they don't describe whether the output text uses Simplified or
>>> Traditional Chinese characters (a selection option of Trippo VoiceMagix),
>>> but that this also adds PinYin.
>>>
>>> In
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>
> Have you tried going to audible.com? If you have an account and you sign in
> it goes bonkers. lol
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Hi:
In order to install the youtube extension they say you need to enable
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Does the search function work correctly on the IPhone now? It doesn't on my
Touch. I will be getting my husband's IPhone soon when he upgrades, so it
would be interesting to find out.
On Jun 16, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> Thank you, Donna,
>
> It worked like a charm. You eas
I would like to know why Apple hasn't modeled their calculator for convenience
either by the sighted or the VO user. One thing I love about Windows is the
calculator. It's very easy to use. I don't know what they updated in it, but
it seems the same to me though I haven't looked at it for a
Hi:
What I have done is to set a hotspot for the LCD area so that I can find it
immediately.
On Jun 19, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> Yep, there is something called the "LCD" section and that contains the
> information you are looking for. In a lot of cases you may have to wait for
>
You may have hints on as well, which drove me absolutely bonkers. You can turn
hints off in the Vo Utilities menu. Vo/F8. I think it too is under verbosity.
Hope that helps.
On Jun 19, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You can try setting the verbosity level to medium or lo
Vo/g will find the next instance of the object that you are searching for.
It's the find next command. HOpe that helps.
On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:33 PM, anouk radix wrote:
> HEllo,
> I often read large documents (books and lawbooks) in pages and need to search
> for terms like the chapter i want
On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Mark Muscat wrote:
Hi:
Go into preferences with command comma and make sure that audio books has not
inadvertently been unchecked.
> Hi All:
> I am using Mac OS 10.5 and Itunes 9.0. When I started using Itunes, I was
> able to access the audio books button and me
So have I, but it's intermittent.
On Jan 30, 2010, at 2:32 AM, James & Nash wrote:
> I've noticed the same thing.
>
> Very weird
> TC
> James
> On 30 Jan 2010, at 05:03, Jessie Kirchner wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I've been encountering an annoying VO bug for a while now. Say I'm
>> rea
Hi:
When I synch my IPod Touch now I don't get a chime when the synch is complete.
I can't seem to find the synch progress bar that I used to see either. I know
it's synching because it updates, and says synch in progress when I first plug
it into the computer. Is this a result of the new u
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