Hello Juan,
Here are the basic navigation commands:
Right one character - Right Arrow;
Left one character - Left Arrow;
Right one word - Option-Right Arrow;
Left one word - Option-Left Arrow;
Go to the end of the line - Cmd-Right Arrow;
Go to the beginning of the line - Cmd-Left Arrow;
Go to previo
I suggest you get more knowledgeable friends.
On Thursday, October 22, 2015, Gabe Griffith
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, the size of the plus series is what turned me off of it. The 6 and 6s
> are large enough by plenty.
>
> That is interesting that the 6s battery life is comparable to the 5s.
>
> I'll
Hi Gabe, your friend is on the crack pipe, the battery life in the 6s and 6s+
is better than the 6 and 6+ I would say by about 10 to 20% or so.
Also, I would encourage you to reconsider the plus option. The extra real
estate is nice for people with larger hands like myself and also there’s real
So far so good on the self muting bug as well. Hasn’t happened since upgrade.
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> At least my Safari issue is unresolved, however it looks like they might—and
> this isn’t confirmed yet, but they might—have sorted out that annoying
>
What kind of TV do you have that has voice included? I hear my Samsung TV can
do it but don’t know much about it first hand.
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> Hi Scott.
>
> Let us know how you get on with the new TV. I was going to buy one but as I
> have a talking S
I can ditto scott's comments
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 05:33
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S question
Hi Gabe, your friend is on
Have not seen a lot of traction about the El Capitan update that dropped
yesterday. Is anything fixed in safari? When you use your arrows to go from
link to link are the next links consistently read? Anyone having issues with VO
stability in safari as this was a major issue for me and I rolled b
If this worked it would be fantastic but I cannot seem to get the keys to work.
I have tried these key sequences with both quick nav on and off but no luck.
Tried control option and all the numbers but nothing happens, wonder if there
is a conflict with VO and these keys. If anyone can figure th
Hi all.
Could someone can point me to the changelog for this last El capitan's
release, please?
Many thanks.
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Hi,
The bug with text being cut off is slowly being squashed. For me, on my machine
it happens but it doesn’t happen often anymore. It has been gradually better
since the betas so i have full hope it will be totally fixed soon.
/Krister
> 22 okt. 2015 kl. 15:16 skrev Brian Fischler :
>
> Have n
Thank you thank you thank you.
Best,
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 3:24 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: moving in text
Hi,
Yes.
My opinion is that unless you have a specific reason to move to El Capitan,
staying put will give you the better experience. At this stage I’d say the El
Capitan experience is merely tolerable, but not great. Responsiveness is a
definite plus, and I have come to endure iBooks for sheer lack of
There really isn’t a change log as such, merely the release notes for the
update that is presented on upgrade. You can find a copy of those here:
http://osxdaily.com/2015/10/21/os-x-10-11-1-el-capitan-update-for-mac-available/
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I find the battery on my 6s to be much better than the battery on my 5S was.
Sent from Pablo's iPhone
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, the size of the plus series is what turned me off of it. The 6 and 6s
> are large enough by plenty.
>
> That is interest
I would agree, I have felt each upgrade has been an improvement, meaning the 6
was better than the 5s, 6s better than the 6 and so on.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Paul Sandoval wrote:
>
> I find the battery on my 6s to be much better than the battery on my 5S was.
>
> Sent from Pablo's iPh
Found this article from Wired interesting. Apparently there was a second
PARC team working on a speech-based UI. The article posits that speech
will be the next generation of how everyone interacts with devices and
computers. Mentions of Siri, Nuance, Apple, Amazon, Google and the other
usual p
Very cool,
Close the pod bay doors Hal.:)
Can’t be far off.
On this front, have you seen the new commercials for IBM Watson? Creepy in a
way although I’m all for the rise of the machines.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:44 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Found this article fro
Hello, everyone.
As a MacBook Air user of just under three months, I am posting a
little tale about my brief experience upgrading to El Capitan. I do
this for two reasons: to acquaint new users thinking of upgrading with
one rookie's experience and perhaps to generate a bit of commentary
from mor
OK, what about editting in text fields on Safari? Is that still broken?
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"
To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries"
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released
At least
That's the thing. It wouldn't let me create it. It crashed about 3 fourths
the way through creating it. I don't remember the wording of the error, but
it was something to the effect of an unknown exception error occured. It
honestly wasn't very specific. Yeah, the drive definitely was compa
The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has
seemed to indicate. Definitely safari is working better and I never had mail
issues but I don’t use the classic view. Either way, mail is functioning
nicely under 10.11.1 on this side anyway.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2
I don't know what you're friend is talking about. I have a 6S, not the
Plus. I understand. This is the plain 6S, and my battery life is
fantastic! I can go for about 2 days of very very heavy use before it
finally gives me the 20 percent remaining screen.
Chris.
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Had no problem doing this 5 minutes ago working with in the Jira Agile tool.
Edited large text boxes full of comments and made the appropriate changes with
no issues.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
> wrote:
>
> OK, what about editting in text fields on Safari? Is that
I’ve never had problems in edit fields on the web. No issues with 10.11.1
either.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
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Home=Command+left arrow.
End=Command+right arrowe
Ctrl+Home=Command+up arrow
Ctrl+end=command+down arrow
Previous word=Option left arrow
Next word=Option+right arrow.
Add the shift key to any above commands to select text respectfully.
Chris.
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From: Juan Her
Nope, still completely borked for me. Can do it with QuickNav off, but as soon
as VO navigation commands get involved it’s all FUBAR. VO-right, for example,
will skim me suddenly from the very start to the very end, and word-by-word
navigation simply doesn’t work. If it’s working for others i
I completely agree with you Scott,
Especially where the Mac Mail application is concerned. I would argue that
Mail is as good as it has ever been. I have said it before and I'll say it
again, were it not for the Mac Mail application, there is no way I could
conceivably manage so many email me
OK, and were you one of the ones who previously *was?* having an issue with
this? I know some of you were, and some weren't.
Chris.
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From: "Scott Granados"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released
Mark and others,
What even exactly is! the difference from the standard and the classic views
anyway, if you don't mind me asking.
Chris.
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From: "M. Taylor"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New
Perhaps I should stop using the classic view too, then. I’d resent it, but the
only way of avoiding the horrible, terrible slowdowns in Mail presently seems
to be not to use that view.
Deliberate sabotage so Apple can obsolete that view and further solidify the
iOSification of the Mac? :)
Mus
What aside the obvious of sluggishness is the difference in standard view,
vs. classic?
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"
To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries"
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One Ne
Well visually it’s completely different, essentially like on iOS with each
entire message's detail displayed in a group format with a resizable view of
the content to the right, instead of displaying the message detail in a table
format at the top and the message text for the selected message be
OK. Use Disk Utility to erase the disk first, and try one more time. If
DiskMakerX will not do it, then it’s really no hardship to use the
“CreateInstallMedia” tool that comes with the app you downloaded from the Mac
App Store. Go to the MAS and make sure the button for download on the produc
Hi!
Intresting.
THen i have to try to do it via the terminal.
Thanks for confirming this Chris.
/A
> 21 okt. 2015 kl. 20:36 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland :
>
> I actually had that same issue when I tried making a disk with the Disk Maker
> X Utility, so, though I don't know what's wrong, I can
Hello Everyone,
Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus.
For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers.
1.
However, given that I have been in an ongoing dialog with Apple engineers, I
am a little disappointed that the camera app zoom VoiceOver bug still
persist. However, on
Hi all. Well I'm not a really happy camper. This will probably solidify the
points that Sabahattin stated about these voices a few months ago, but anyway,
I'm in contact with a guy from Cereproc named Graham Leary. Since El Capitan is
no longer in beta, I was able to tell him my issues that I've
I have long since suspected that Apple will, eventually, discontinue the
classic view in Mail. This is just my opinion, of course.
The funny thing is, whenever I see non-voiceOver users, including those in the
Apple store, using Mac Mail, they are not using the classic view. I realize
that th
Well, about Samantha, Apple can't be blamed. It is a Neuance problem.
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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 4:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus.
>
> For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers.
>
> 1.
> However,
Generally I use the standard view all the time and frankly I get a bit lost in
Classic view.
Although I am totally blind I love the ability to use the preview pane in
standard view and am one of the people who routinely use VO J to quickly read
emails.
The major annoyance in standard view is t
I'm not purposely trying to be rude, but what makes you think that they
would not give you a refund?
Thanks.
Chris.
On October 22, 2015 5:35:47 PM Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
Hi all. Well I'm not a really happy camper. This will probably solidify the
points that Sabahattin stated about these v
Hi all,
This may be a dumb question or at least expose my ignorance but how does one
tell if they are using classic or standard view? I am also running Maverics.
Thanks,
Gabe
On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:47 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> Generally I use the standard view all the time and frankly I ge
David,
Have you considered possibly using the search feature within mail being
that first letter navigation doesn't work?
WinMail is open, press command option F, as in find. would this be a
viable option for you?
Chris.
.
On October 22, 2015 5:47:16 PM David Griffith wrote:
Gener
It’s hopeless. The muting is still happening under pressure, and so is the
activity-fails-to-switch bug.
ARGH!
Bug report finger at the ready for the next incoming arrow of misfortune, but I
wonder what Apple think they have fixed in this release, then. It’s not right
that people see fixes t
I have not gone to the website but if the keyboard shortcuts are reliant on
using the VO keys, that is, control and option then there will most definitely
be a conflict with Voiceover under Yosemite and earlier. control option and
numbers are the keystrokes used for hot spot management.
Howeve
Chris, that wasn't rude at all. That is a valid question. A question that I
don't know the answer to, but a friend of mine said that companies don't like
giving refunds if they can fix issues. We'll just have to wait and see. They're
from Scotland so I'll know if they'll give me a refund or not
Hi!
I got the 6s and am very happy with it.
Although i think its to big for my hands.
BUt iits just personal preference i think.
/A
> 22 okt. 2015 kl. 14:32 skrev Scott Granados :
>
> Hi Gabe, your friend is on the crack pipe, the battery life in the 6s and 6s+
> is better than the 6 and 6+ I wou
Hi Chris,
I must say, your battery life on your success far exceeds mine. I can get a day
of heavy use, and that's it. That's about what I used to get on my 5S.
Mary
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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
> wrote:
>
> I don't know what you're friend is t
Guys, we have a problem.
I just opened up the KNFB Reader app on my IPhone 6S, and went to scan a
document. The scan was fine, considering the content I was scanning,
however the female voice that reads the material was obviously on Ambian or
something, as she was so darn slow that it wasn't
I noticed exactly the same thing. On the very right, there is a slider that
let's you adjust the speaking rate. However, I noticed that, every time I open
the KNFB reader, the speed goes back to 20% (twenty percent). That means that
I have to adjust it every single time. It makes no differen
Well, speak for yourselves. Everybody is, of course, different and has
different preferences. I know that, given the choice to use classic view over
the “Modern” view, I would ordinarily choose the classic view, for all the
flexibility it gives me. It isn’t for everyone and I can see how the
Yeah, they needed to update these to work with System Integrity Protection, but
the voices themselves are pretty useless. :(
I’m prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt since they’re clearly not an
Apple firm, but I still stand by my earlier recommendation. It’s just not
worth it. In f
It's actually 20% and it seems to reset itself each time. I'm calling this a
major bug.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
>
> Guys, we have a problem.
>
> I just opened up the KNFB Reader app on my IPhone 6S, and went to scan a
> document. The scan was
Sean, I am also experiencing the same issue with Cereproc Nathan. I am going to
contact Graham immediately.
Matt Dierckens
Certified Assistive technology specialist
Macintosh trainer
Canadian phone: 5199629140
U.S. Phone: 5734011018
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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 18:06, Shawn Krasniuk
Yes, exactly the same problem I was having with it this afternoon while trying
to scan a few pages from a book. The number for speed kept saying 20% and when
I tried to tap and then flick up/down it would do “N.O.T.H.I.N.G.”
From: Jamie Pauls
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:43 PM
To: mac
Hi!
I have never been impressed with Cereproc and their voices, so I can't say this
is very surprising they do not work, at least at the moment. Years ago when I
first tried them they barely worked, either, and contacting them didn't really
resolve anything except they said they would look into
LOL! Thank you for making me laugh with that slow spelling of nothing. I needed
that tonight! thank you again
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
>
> Yes, exactly the same problem I was having with it this
Hello all,
I am trying to find a direct link to purchase office 2016 for mac. Does anyone
have it? Do I have to purchase Microsoft 365 to use from the web or is there an
app I purchase to download to my Mac? thanks for any assistance.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of denise avant
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 18:17
To: macvisionaries
Hello,
I, too, am experiencing this problem.
The thing is, I don't see how to set a new default speech rate. If such a
mechanism exists, then we'd be in business.
Was it possible to set a new speech rate previously?
Mark
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Yes. This problem occurred relatively recently. Not sure exactly when, but I’d
say within the last week or so.
Take care and have a great day.
Jamie Pauls
jamiepa...@gmail.com
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I, too, am experiencing this problem.
>
> The thi
I’m not sure exactly when it started in the KFB Reader, but I suspect it was
with the release of IOS 9. At that time I needed to use a web site for a
purchase and when prompted to update my credit card info (i.e. experation month
and year) using picker buttons, it would not work. Other people
Hi Matt. Do you have his email address or would you like me to give it to you?
Shawn
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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Matthew Dierckens wrote:
what is actually wrong with using the voices?
On 10/22/2015 10:42 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
Hi Matt. Do you have his email address or would you like me to give it to you?
Shawn
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Skype username: bbstheblin
FWIW, I created the El Capitan installer with DiskMaker X today and
was able to boot from it.
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 10/22/2015 2:21 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Intresting.
THen i h
seems to be a bug; as if you go to settings and change the default reading
rate, once you close KNFB out of the app switcher the speaking rate returns to
20%
The way i’ve found to get around this is to either #1 adjust reading rate when
first opening app (not ideal but doable)
or #2, just keep k
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