Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS? Pam Francis On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: Mail 8.0 i

Re: yosemite mail removing address in mail from the suggested list as you type

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'm not sure about the mouse click but you can arrow up and down to choose other addresses. Of course the recipients list is a permanent fix but I didn't think that was what was being asked. Vo-shift-m also does still work for some options but these are I think mostly editing options. -- Cher

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread christopher hallsworth
Mail is very much usable under OS X Yosemite. What makes you think it isn't? Sent from my iPad > On 19 Oct 2014, at 02:53, Devin Prater wrote: > > Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and > thunderbird for that? > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 18, 2014, at

Re: yosemite mail removing address in mail from the suggested list as you type

2014-10-19 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Ah, what I think you want is to open the window menu and go in to where it says "previous recipients". There, you will find a table of every address you've sent e-mail to. Just locate the one you want out and press the delete key. HTH. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very ha

So Can I Assume This?

2014-10-19 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey all. I noticed that after a certain beta version, there's no longer a software update option in the app store. So can I assume that there's no way to get that menu item back? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Mac

Re: Incorrect reporting of position of insertion point in Yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nick, I’m just beginning to explore the new version of Pages, but I’m already horrified by the fact that I can no longer reach the menu to the right of the button to select a paragraph style in the table. I can therefore no longer set a short cut for a style. There must be some way to rea

Re: FileVault speech services now available at startup on some computers

2014-10-19 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
In other words, please suggest to Apple Accessibility that the firmware be made more accessible. That's what we all need. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: So Can I Assume This?

2014-10-19 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
That menu option was removed in Yosemite, yes. Now you must open App Store and choose Updates, or else open About This Mac and use the Software Update button in there. Speaking of About This Mac, notice that it now takes you straight to the system overview in System Information, rather than an

Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-19 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i tried it but on the course it doesn't move, try to move all the eight pawns, and the computer moves is interrupting with other voice On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:08 am, Brandon A. Olivares wrote: > I just tried making several moves, and it worked just fine. I made four moves > without issue. > >>

Re: Incorrect reporting of position of insertion point in Yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nick, > On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:30, Nicholas Parsons > wrote: > > How are those paragraph style buttons now? They seemed to change with every > minor update to Pages under Mavericks. The menu button to the right of the paragraph style name in the table is once more inaccessible with VO.

Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-19 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i just tried it again now, but whenever i pause to think what move should i do that's when then moves does do anything On 19 Oct 2014, at 02:48 pm, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: > i tried it but on the course it doesn't move, try to move all the eight > pawns, and the computer moves i > On 1

Re: Enabling services in mac os x server

2014-10-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Try moving the slider to 100%. If I look at the difference between services I originally had enabled and those which were not, the ones that were enabled in Mavericks Server show as 100% and those that were not enabled show as 0%. I’m guessing it is trying to look like a dimmer or light s

Re: Has Applevis Published The New VO Features Of Yosemite Yet?

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
With this most recent release, I have lost all faith in Apple. In my opinion, both iOS 8 and OS 10 10 are very sloppy. They seem to be more concerned about release date, what looks pretty, along with how many units they can move out of the store That is no different than Target or Walmart. They se

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Terje Strømberg
You find «classic view» in mail preferences under viewing. In classic view you can use vo-j to jump from table with inboxes to the left and the actual mails in the inbox. Vo-j once more and you can read the content of each mail, vo-j back to the mail, left-right or vo-command on the expanded arr

Apple's QA (was: voice commands on yosemite)

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
I agree that it would be great if Apple put out a document or iBook explaining the accessibility and interface changes with each release. In fact, this is something that I have urged them to do in the past, for iOS and OS X. I don't use iTunes much, so I can't comment on that, but I will say tha

Adding a library to iTunes?

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, I have a 64GB Macbook Air, so I don't have room for the music library I had on my 500GB Mac Mini. That library is still stored on my Time Machine backup drive, and I'd like to let iTunes access it from that drive (no, this is not a network-connected drive, just a USB one). The first que

Re: Apple's QA (was: voice commands on yosemite)

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi Alex, I was originally attempting to search for music title on my Mac. As I did that, everything including email having nothing to do with what I was searching for, web search results that were unlabeled, also having nothing to do with what I was attempting to find. I gave up. I realize in so

Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
I just tried it, and got several moves in without any problems. Do you have a different game mode selected than you think? That might be why moves are different. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera > wrote: > > i just tried it again now, but whenever i pause to think what m

Re: Apple's QA (was: voice commands on yosemite)

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
I don't have music stored locally, but if I search for other files, they come up. Have you explored the Spotlight preferences (under System Preferences)? You can uncheck items you don't want searched, and sort the order of result types. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Pamela Francis wrote: > >

Re: yosemite mail removing address in mail from the suggested list as you type

2014-10-19 Thread Rachel Feinberg
Not sure if this has changed in Yosemite, but you may be able to find the auto-complete list that apple Mail builds within the Window menu. On 10/18/2014 10:19 PM, Donald Bishop wrote: Yes, that works, but I have a user which is no longer valid which comes up while I’m typing and it’s kind of

Re: Apple's QA (was: voice commands on yosemite)

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
No I have not done that. I didn't know it existed. However, I shouldn't have to. I would think the OS would be smart enough to understand keywords, knowing what it was supposed to be searching for to start with. Pam Francis On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Alex Hall wrote: I don't have music stor

Re: So Can I Assume This?

2014-10-19 Thread Phil Halton
I really wish people would stop this trend of using meaningless subject lines. More and more I find myself just deleting the thread without bothering to look what its all about. Also, it makes archive searching difficult. How hard is it to think of a subject line that accurately reflects the nat

Re: iTunes not opening under Yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Brianna Snyder
Hi guys, I fixed my issue when I did a full clean install of Yosemite. As to the problem of iTunes not quitting with command-Q when opening an MP3 from the Finder, I don’t have that issue. Brianna > On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:31 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > Hmmm, there must be another factor

Re: Apple's QA (was: voice commands on yosemite)

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
What sort of keywords? I'll put a couple songs on this machine and try the same search you did, to see if I can get the same (inaccessible) results. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Pamela Francis wrote: > > No I have not done that. I didn't know it existed. However, I shouldn't have > to. I wou

Re: Apple's QA (was: voice commands on yosemite)

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
I have an artist on my machine called the Eagles. Spot light would not pull it up. It gave me everything but, including any email I had relating to any threat I had having to do with computers. I should be able to type in precisely what I'm looking for getting the results I know are there. I cou

Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-19 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
alex, can you message me on my skype so that i can show you the problem, my skype is dionipher, thanks. i don't change the setting of my chess On 19 Oct 2014, at 04:22 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > I just tried it, and got several moves in without any problems. Do you have a > different game mode sele

A 10.10 discovery and wondered if anyone else notes this.

2014-10-19 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi all, I am running the OS X 10.10 and was wondering if anyone notes something with sound at startup. I notes that at boot up, sound fades in with vo running at the log in. There is a pop and then vo fades in. I am running a 27 inch iMac and notes it. This is not a big deal, but was wond

iTunes 12 EQ?

2014-10-19 Thread Joseph
Hello, Does iTunes 12 still have an EQ? If so, where is it? TIA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

Re: iTunes 12 EQ?

2014-10-19 Thread Colin Matthews
Hi! To get to the Equaliser Command+Option E and that will take you there! HTH Colin On 19 Oct 2014, at 16:28, Joseph wrote: > Hello, > Does iTunes 12 still have an EQ? If so, where is it? > TIA. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionar

Re: iTunes 12 EQ?

2014-10-19 Thread Joseph
Fantastic! I'm actually getting to like iTunes 12, I think. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Colin Matthews > wrote: > > Hi! > To get to the Equaliser Command+Option E and that will take you there! > HTH Colin > > On 19 Oct 2014, at 16:28, Joseph wrote: > >> Hello, >> Does iTunes 12 still have

Re: Voice Dream Reader navigation sluggish IOS7.1.2

2014-10-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I guess its because the phone is quite full. You might try to remove some documents. /A > 18 okt 2014 kl. 21:28 skrev Phil Halton : > > All of a sudden, Voice Dream Reader is quite sluggish when trying to navigate > through a document, either by sentence, paragraph, highlight, bookmark etc.

Re: iTunes how in the world do you find summary/info for your iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Traci Duncan
Hmmm, that's odd. When I VO-space on the iPhone pop-up button then VO-right-arrow, it says the name of my iPhone 1-of-1, because that's the only 1 I have connected. ;) VO-right-arrowing a couple times over to the playlist table, summery is the second item in the list. It goes settings, summer

High fan activity-.

2014-10-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Yesterday when i ran safari and listened to a stream through airplay i found out that my fan on my mac mini was at quite high speed. This never happend when i used mavericks. Not sure whats going on but it seems like safari is a process user on Yousemite. Ok, my mac is a mid 2011 but i’v neve

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating. Don't, under any condition. Pam Francis On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer wrote: My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all that, go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and

Re: yosemite mail removing address in mail from the suggested list as you type

2014-10-19 Thread Donald Bishop
Yes, it is the same. Thanks for the reminder and it still works as it always had. I simply forgot how to do it. I'll make a note to myself so I don't forget again. Don > On Oct 18, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Colin Matthews > wrote: > > Hi! > I hope its still the same in Yosemite you need to go

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Les Kriegler
What don't you like about the update? Is there anything that would suggest that it is worth updating in your opinion? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: > > Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating. > Don't, under any con

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
Yosemite works great. I love the arrow key nav in safari. I don't see all of the lag that others see. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Pamela Francis wrote: > > Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating. > Don't, under any condition. > > Pam Francis > > On Oct

Re: Another strange issue

2014-10-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Yes i also have no audio indication when turning up or down the volume. I wonder if its gone? /A > 18 okt 2014 kl. 22:15 skrev Matt Dierckens : > > Hey all. > I have a couple of issues with Yosemite. > 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication. > 2. When attempt

Re: iTunes how in the world do you find summary/info for your iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Tracey, I must have responded to another thread about this. I called Apple accessibility yesterday and they could not figure out why the sync option was grayed out in iTunes for me, I did find the summary info, but still could not sync after an hour on the phone they said they would investi

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
In my opinion, Apple has lost its way with reference to functionality. They concentrate on what looks pretty. If something is totally redesigned, the least they OS is some sort of a document of sorts to explain what is where and what options have been removed especially with reference to accessi

Re: High fan activity-.

2014-10-19 Thread Rachel Feinberg
Hi, Try resetting your system management controller (SMC). This can help high fan performance decrease. Do this: "1. Shut down the computer. 2. Unplug the computer's power cord. 3. Wait fifteen seconds. 4. Attach the computer's power cord. 5. Wait five seconds, then press the power button t

Re: Has Applevis Published The New VO Features Of Yosemite Yet?

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
Putting one's faith in any company only leads to disappointment. Yes, why have beta testers if the reported bugs are not addressed. I have no answer. The only answer I have is to continue to report bugs to Apple. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
It will not take all day to type this. Not eveyone thinks the changes are crap. I offer up a tidbit. The only constant in life is change. Lest you think I am impervious to changes, I am not. There are many times I do not like change, but I do my best to adapt to the changes and move on.

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Faisal
I respectfully wholeheartedly disagree with you. I love the new update. the experience is a lot smoother than IOS 8. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Pamela Francis wrote: > > In my opinion, Apple has lost its way with reference to functionality. They > concentrate on what looks pretty. If somet

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't agree with that. I did the public beta and I upgraded on my other computer immediately when Yosemite came out. Yes, there are some bugs and some changes so that you will have to be flexible enough to relearn some things. If you don't want to do that, don't upgrade for a while. If you are

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Handoff is the biggest thing I like about Yosemite. There isn't really anything I don't like at this point except that sometimes I am having a problem with voiceover but haven't tracked down the specifics so won't post that at this point. It seems to me to be early to adamantly declare I don't l

Re: High fan activity-.

2014-10-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Ok. Thanks for that. /A > 19 okt 2014 kl. 19:32 skrev Rachel Feinberg : > > Hi, > > Try resetting your system management controller (SMC). This can help high fan > performance decrease. Do this: > "1. Shut down the computer. > 2. Unplug the computer's power cord. > 3. Wait fifteen seconds. >

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! By the way. Have you had time to test brltty on the new yosemite? /A > 19 okt 2014 kl. 20:06 skrev Cheryl Homiak : > > Handoff is the biggest thing I like about Yosemite. There isn't really > anything I don't like at this point except that sometimes I am having a > problem with voiceover but

Re: voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Faisal
Dictation is enabled for me but unless I’m in a edit field, I cannot ue it. How can one make commands if they are not in a edit field? I didn’t see anything about voice commands in dictation either. > On Oct 18, 2014, at 11:28 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: > > Apple has so much broken this OS. I ha

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Jamie Pauls
I also updated and my word is go for it. Just goes to show that know two people are going to have the same experience. If you are nervous about updating and don't need to, then don't. If you don't really have anything to lose, go ahead. If no one updates, then nobody can report bugs to Apple o

Re: Another strange issue

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I think you will have audio for volume change if you go to System Preferences > Sound and select the sound effects tab. Then go to the right and you will eventually find the appropriate checkbox and it is unchecked by default. Probably you did the same thing I did at first and looked for this in

Re: Adding a library to iTunes?

2014-10-19 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Alex, I would recommend opening up the Time Machine UI and copying your iTunes folder to another place on your hard drive. Time Machine backups can, I believe, be corrupted if you manually move or edit files in the Finder or anywhere else outside the Time Machine UI, not to mention file perm

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, I have it working. Had to make sure xcode was at the right version and command line tools were installed. I also went through the migration process for Macports; the only catch is that gcc in Macports won't install and I haven't figured out if this is just a matter of waiting for a fix or i

strange behaviour in itunes

2014-10-19 Thread Faisal
so, when skipping through a song, it no longer skips in five second increments. When I tried it, it kept on skipping and I couldn’t find a way to stop it aside from pausing the song. Has anyone else found this to be the case?. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

Re: Apple's QA

2014-10-19 Thread Piotr Machacz
You can tell spotlight exactly what you're looking for, it's all based on a couple of keywords that make it look for specific metadata. In your case, typing in something like: kind:music artist:Eagles would return only those results that are music by this artist. This gets more advanced, and ob

Re: Voice Dream Reader navigation sluggish IOS7.1.2

2014-10-19 Thread Phil Halton
You may be right on the fullness issue. I just recently downloaded a slew of spanish language learning podcasts through the innovative Language app (fantastic app BTW), and that's the only real change I've made to the phone lately, and since the start of this problem On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:16 P

Re: MacSmart? + Yosemite upgrade

2014-10-19 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Mark, you might want to read through the rest of the guide to see if there is still a piece or more of adware on your system. What you're experiencing in Safari doesn't sound normal to me. You might even want to consider erasing your drive and performing a clean install of Yosemite, though I

Re: Adding a library to iTunes?

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks, I'll give this a try, but I have one problem. In Yosemite, the Time Machine browser doesn't work well - a bunch of unknowns and unlabeled items, with no files I could find. So, as long as O copy and don't move the library, can I copy the whole thing somewhere else without breaking anythi

voice commands revisited

2014-10-19 Thread Faisal
so I have dictation enabled and have the check box to enhanced dictation also checked but I still cannot get any of my commands to work. I even did a show commands and still nothing. what am I doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisiona

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Jose Lomeli
The only complaint I have with Yosemite is that I am having issues connecting my iPhone to my Mac via Bluetooth so I can answer calls with my Mac! Jose Lomeli Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > Yes, I have it working. Had to make sure xcode was at the

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
As I've said in other threads, I find Yosemite to be a good release. The new Spotlight doesn't give me problems, but does offer more information; Handoff and Continuity work well; arrowing around webpages is great; iTunes is new, but I haven't found anything I can't do. My only complaint is the

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I can't agree with you more Juan. I don't know if i'm grumpy, tired or what, but it seems to me some times we like to complain just for the sake of complaining. I really do hope that when and if we report bugs to Apple that we don't use the tone we use here, because if we do, they might just qui

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Faisal
Well, apparently you don't need to have bluetooth enabled on your phone in order to make or receive phone calls on the mac. I tested this and it worked. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Jose Lomeli wrote: > > The only complaint I have with Yosemite is that I am having issues connecting > my iPho

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I love both Ios8 and Yosemite. They're both great. /Krister > 19 okt 2014 kl. 19:56 skrev Faisal : > > I respectfully wholeheartedly disagree with you. I love the new update. the > experience is a lot smoother than IOS 8. >> On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Pamela Francis wrote: >> >> In my opin

Re: strange behaviour in itunes

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
Sorry, I'm not seeing this. My fast forward/rewind commands are working as expected. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Faisal wrote: > > so, when skipping through a song, it no longer skips in five second > increments. When I tried it, it kept on skipping and I couldn’t find a way to > stop it as

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Christine Grassman
I agree. While I would stop short of placing Apple on a pedestal, as no one or company is worthy of that level of responsibility, I am realistic about the varying preferences and needs of a customer base consisting of millions of people, and I am steadfastly grateful for Apple and its integral

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
The only real complaint i have, and that's simply because this machine is too old, (a 2011 Imac) is that apparently the part of Handoff that lets me start a document on one device and finish on another doesn't quite work and Airdrop only works between macs unless there's a setting i'm not aware

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
I did not have a disastrous experience. I had just gotten a new Macbook with Mountain Lion and Mavericks came out shortly after that. And history repeats itself today with Yosemite. There were many complaints about Mavericks. Meanwhile, I worked with ML, trying to forget Windows. Finally

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Yeah, I feel some have so much time on their hands they want to do nothing but complain and even go as far as bashing Apple. Not fair if you ask me considering the timeless work they do for everybody, not just us. On 19/10/2014 20:04, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I can't agree with you more Juan. I

Hand off, again

2014-10-19 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Hi again, I complained about Hand off not working between my 3 devices, but the fix was so simple, I could kick myself in the face, (Wish I was that flexible). All I needed to do, was to uncheck, and then recheck The checkboxes for handoff on the MacBook and iPad. Everything is now working lik

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The apple support article appears to say to have it enabled but it is true that you don't have to go deliberately trying to connect your devices to each other via bluetooth. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then

Re: voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Isn’t that the domain of speakable items or has that changed or been eliminated? As far as I know, issuing commands to your computer hasn’t been a part of dictation but maybe I missed out on this. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
For those complaining about Yosemite, be grateful, Apple did not release developer preview one to the public. I will not go into detail here, but suffice it to say, it was not a very nice experience. Everything is working like clockwork on my end now, including all continuity features, except

The letter to Accessibility: was voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
While I would always support people freely expressing their opinions, I see some problems with the content of this letter. Because you have submitted this to this email list, while I will never write anything insulting or derogatory of anybody here, I do think it is appropriate to express my con

Re: The letter to Accessibility: was voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread ROBERT CARTER
Thanks Cheryl, Your points are excellent. I couldn’t agree more. I for one, am using Yosemite and VoiceOver very successfully. Robert Carter > On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > While I would always support people freely expressing their opinions, I see > some problems with

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Well, same was true when iOS 8 beta 1 was released to developers. It wasn't very nice at all. Good job it only ran on my mini as didn't want to get stuck with an unreliable, possibly unusable 4s. All is history now. On 19/10/2014 21:18, Brandt Steenkamp wrote: For those complaining about Yosem

Re: The letter to Accessibility: was voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Kevin Cussick
Hi, the same here, the only thing I am now finding using the mail program is I used to be able to press vo and j read the message hit delete and get the subject read then do the same again. I now have to interact and uninteract each time I hit vo j to read the text any ideas? but over all

Yosemite beta 5 over Yosemite?

2014-10-19 Thread Gabriele Battaglia
Hi all. I’ve upgraded my MBP13 with Yosemite and before I was part of beta testing program. Now the AppStore updater asks me to install Yosemite Beta 5. How is this possible and how to remove this unwanted downgrade? Thanks. Gabriel. — Namasté! Sent from my MacBookPro13 (Libero) -- You recei

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi, I'm normally not one to complain for the sake of complaining. I am a realist. I know that we as a market are a minority within Apple's customer base. I will give them credit where it's due. They did take the lead in accessibility. However, mainstream society has caught on to the fact that Ap

Re: How do i get rid of the preview pane in Mail?

2014-10-19 Thread Daniel K. Gartmann
I think our reason is to avoid marking a message as read just by moving over them without opening them. This happens when preview pane is turned on. I, for one, can't get this thing turned off and it is one of the more annoying issues I have with Mail and VoiceOver on the Mac. Daniel Den

Re: voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
It's now mixed into dictation as of Yosemite. The only problem is that, as speech is silent during dictation, you get no spoken feedback about any command you issue. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > Isn’t that the domain of speakable items or has that changed or been > e

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Eileen Misrahi
For many years, Apple has been held to a higher standard in accessibility. I posted about a problem that I was having and still having with updating my apps in the app store on my iPhone 4 using iOS 7.0.6. I did white to the accessibility team at Apple, but received an unacceptable response. The

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
That is a first. The general public now dictates what the disabled public gets? Apple develops products for the mainstream market...and they also have enabled these same products to be usable by the disabled. Can amy other comppany claim that? We all can walk into any Apple store along w

Re: voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
I don’t there have been siri like command structure in mac os x at anytime, or lat least in the last 3-4 releases. but I could be wrong. Best, > On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > Isn’t that the domain of speakable items or has that changed or been > eliminated? As far as I

Re: voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Faisal
Yes, there has been. There was a dedicated service called voice commands on Mavericks and I believe also on mountain lion. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote: > > I don’t there have been siri like command structure in mac os x at anytime, > or lat least in the last 3-4 releases

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
*grin* I completely about dev preview 1. lets just say I am glad it was first among betas. :) > On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Brandt Steenkamp > wrote: > > For those complaining about Yosemite, be grateful, Apple did not release > developer preview one to the public. > > I will not go into d

Re: Apple's QA (was: voice commands on yosemite)

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
Spotlight is working for me. Could your installation become corrupted? > On Oct 19, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Pamela Francis wrote: > > I have an artist on my machine called the Eagles. Spot light would not pull > it up. It gave me everything but, including any email I had relating to any > threat I

Re: voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
Great, I will check it out. Thank you. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Faisal wrote: > > Yes, there has been. There was a dedicated service called voice commands on > Mavericks and I believe also on mountain lion. >> On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Juan Hernandez >

Re: Launchbar for OS X

2014-10-19 Thread Traci Duncan
Yes, I use Launch Bar 5 under Maverick. I really like the app, and I know I'm not using it to it's full potential. :) I haven't tried Launch Bar 6 yet. Traci On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:29 AM, The Believer wrote: > When in Applevis the other day, I came across an article on Launchbar for > OS

Re: Apple's QA (was: voice commands on yosemite)

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi, Please tell me how I would know whether or not my installation had been corrupted. Certainly worth checking out. If so, how would I reinstall it? Pam Francis On Oct 19, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote: Spotlight is working for me. Could your installation become corrupted? > On Oct

spelling errors?

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
Hello all, I can’t seem to get the trick of it. how do I go through the spelling corrections when I’ve misspelled something? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

eclipse java programming

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
Hello all, I am a software developer. First this question might not be for this list, so I want to ask, is there a programming list for mac/ios programmers? Secondly, has anyone used eclipse on mac os x and if yes where you successful at it? it doesn’t seem bad at all, but I am having probl

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Thank God Eileen you have some sense. There are too many people out here who are too willing to settle for whatever Apple gives us for fear of everything being taken from us. If we don't make our voices heard, Apple will take everything from us slowly but surely, and leaving the same people very

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
In the answer to a couple of your questions, ask for a company making their products usable by the disabled, do you or do you not remember what sharp did for us with talking clocks and calculators? Do you also know that Panasonic makes optional talking caller ID in its cordless phones? For year

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
It is over reaching to suggest that Apple might regress because us poor blind folk are not proactive. I am not privy to all the forums that blind people hang out at, or privy to behind the scenes at Apple. So I cannot state categorically anything across the board. We have access to Apple

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
f We want to play on the same level field as non disabled people. Why should we expect more than that? How does Microsoft and Google stack up against Apple? WHne the first iPhone came out, I had no idea that eventually it could be made accessible. It blows my mind that I bought a mainstre

Re: Launchbar for OS X

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
Traci, Sounds promising then. If version 6 is current, tha tis probably what I will end up with. It could be my answer to deal with certain Windows habits that are hard to break. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/19/2014 3:25 PM, Traci Dunc

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Buddy Brannan
See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like everyone else. Now that we have mainstream access to mainstream products, that also means that our bugs get stuck in the queue with everyone else's bugs. They get prioritized along with everybody else's bugs. And they get fixed in the schedule w

problem with app updates

2014-10-19 Thread denise avant
Hello all, I have the latest operating system on my mac. but there are some additional updates that need installing itunes and updates to a couple voices. However, the updates has seemingly hung. Can anyone tell me what I should do, I have tried closing the app store and resterting the app, but

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
I should have waited before adding to the thread for Buddy's post is absolutely spot on. I cannot add to that. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/19/2014 4:33 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like everyon

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