You can tell spotlight exactly what you're looking for, it's all based
on a couple of keywords that make it look for specific metadata. In your
case, typing in something like:
kind:music artist:Eagles
would return only those results that are music by this artist. This gets
more advanced, and obviously for things like email messages you can use
different keywords like from, to, subject, etc. For things like sizes or
dates you can also specify ranges. If you look online you can find out
just what can be done.
On 10/19/2014 4:54 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
I have an artist on my machine called the Eagles. Spot light would not
pull it up. It gave me everything but, including any email I had
relating to any threat I had having to do with computers. I should be
able to type in precisely what I'm looking for getting the results I
know are there. I could do that in Mavericks. This OS is garbage.
Pam Francis
On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com
<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
What sort of keywords? I'll put a couple songs on this machine and try
the same search you did, to see if I can get the same (inaccessible)
results.
On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com
<mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
No I have not done that. I didn't know it existed. However, I
shouldn't have to. I would think the OS would be smart enough to
understand keywords, knowing what it was supposed to be searching for
to start with.
Pam Francis
On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com
<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
I don't have music stored locally, but if I search for other files,
they come up. Have you explored the Spotlight preferences (under
System Preferences)? You can uncheck items you don't want searched,
and sort the order of result types.
On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com
<mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Alex,
I was originally attempting to search for music title on my Mac. As
I did that, everything including email having nothing to do with
what I was searching for, web search results that were unlabeled,
also having nothing to do with what I was attempting to find. I gave up.
I realize in some ways that letter was not very nice, however,
someone needs to be made aware that even though we are in my Nordie,
we still have issues. If that both concentration is now on what
makes it look pretty rather than functionality, they may as well did
ditch accessibility. If they are not going to do it right, leaving
us with a half-baked product, figuring we have to settle for
whatever they give us, that's crap. I have totally lost all faith in
them with this release. As I said in another post, they have traded
quality for quantity and apologies. I know nothing is perfect.
However I also know for the prices they charge, it would not hurt
them to take the time to do it right. All the read these dates, and
updates, it won't matter, unless you have a product worth releasing
and updating.
Pam Francis
On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com
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I agree that it would be great if Apple put out a document or iBook
explaining the accessibility and interface changes with each
release. In fact, this is something that I have urged them to do in
the past, for iOS and OS X.
I don't use iTunes much, so I can't comment on that, but I will say
that I have not used the sidebar in that app since it became
optional last year, and I have no problems. Spotlight is better, for
me at least, than it was in 10.9. Can you provide an example of what
you search for that gives you the unlabeled items? I know it might
not work on my machine since our two Macs will have very different
files on them, but if it is a web search result, I might be able to
duplicate the problem. So far, I haven't seen anything not labeled,
except the Maps thumbnail when a nearby business is a result.
As to Windows, consider this: when Windows 8 came out as an upgrade
to Windows 7, the interface was far, far more radically altered than
is that of Yosemite compared to Mavericks. Windows 10 will be out
next year, with yet more profound alterations over Windows 8.
Microsoft will not release a changes document with an eye toward
accessibility either, and since Apple doesn't force Mac users to
upgrade, I'm not sure I see the difference here. Yes, Microsoft has
much more public betas, so people know what to expect before release
day, but the same information comes out within a couple days of a
new OS X release. Plus, to my knowledge, there is no site equivalent
to AppleVis for Windows, so finding out what changed in
accessibility is more difficult.
I'm not saying Apple is perfect, and I'm not saying they don't have
worse quality assurance than they have in the past (look at iOS8, or
the simple bugs not caught in Yosemite). I'm not saying Windows is a
worse operating system objectively, though it is to me personally.
What I am saying is that iTunes still does what I need, even if it
looks different, and I have no problems with Spotlight. It works
even better than it did in Mavericks (specifically, navigation is
more reliable and it pulls in far more information), and I have
found no show-stopping bugs in this release.
On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:28 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com
<mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Apple has so much broken this OS. I have no idea why they would
think of releasing it without having paid more attention to what
they were doing.
I wrote this to the accessibility email address, even though it may
not be totally their fault, I can't believe they don't have some
input into what goes into their new OS.
Hello,
I am extremely disappointed with the lack of attention paid to
accessibility in your latest OS10 release.
You overhauled the look of your software, while not thinking of
those of us who have grown to trust you with our accessibility needs.
I know many visually impaired beta testers, most under NDA with you
per each release of both desktop & IOS software.
I realize we are a minority in the big picture of your customer
base. However, if one has paid money to participate in your
testers program & is paid lipservice to what is reported, what good
are the testers? Has the quality control suffered because the
upgrades are now free?
Aren't we as a disability community owed a description of what we
can expect in terms we understand? It looks pretty, but acts very
much like something from a crackerjack box.
I can't get to my music in Itunes because the views I have become
used to have disappeared. There is no more sidebar.
In spotlight search, which is supposed to search for references
outside my Mac, I hear either the words button or image in the
search results.
How is this useful to me or anyone who would try to use it with no
vision?
As I stated earlier, there are those who have been under NDA to
attempt to alert you of the issues before release. Those same
people had enough respect for their contracts to not divulge issues
that may concern the rest of us. However, in return we all got
slapped in the face.
There is a site that gathers bugs, along with other content.
In case you are interested go to www.applevis.com
<http://www.applevis.com/>
As has been shown, I doubt any of this will be taken to heart.
I can only hope.
My next computer, if I need one will be a Windows machine. They are
cheaper, maybe a little buggy, yet I know what I am getting.
Premium prices should reflect premium quality in every sense of the
word.
Pamela Francis
Pam Francis
On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com
<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
It's now called Dictation Commands, and is coupled with Dictation.
Enable it in accessibility preferences, and use it by pressing the
same command you'd use to start dictation (press that key once more
to stop). The problem is that VoiceOver is muted during all
dictation, which now includes issuing commands, so even if a
command works, you get no spoken feedback.
On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Faisal <newyorkyank...@gmail.com
<mailto:newyorkyank...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone,
did they completely do away with voice commands on Yosemite? My
key trigger no longer works and I couldn’t find it in system
preferences.
Thanks
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