How to drag anddrop multiple selections

2011-03-22 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Guys, I went looking for Josh's tutorial that was referenced in a search of theMac Visionaries archives but couldn't find it. I'm trying to find a way to select multiple files and copy or drag them to another location. Could someone tell me where this info is located in the Voiceover manual?

Re: OSX 10.6.7 is out

2011-03-22 Thread Thomas Byskov Dalgaard
Hello! Hmm this is interesting. i downloaded the big file (about 0.98 GB) and it still fails. It says that there was an unknown error which caused the install to fail and if the problem persists I should contact the vendor. I just downloaded the update from the support > download page from App

Re: Read system time with VO

2011-03-22 Thread Kevin Gibbs
How do you enable apple scripts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: How to drag anddrop multiple selections

2011-03-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Kevin, Drag&Drop only works within the same window at the moment, so I doubt it is going to be of use to you. However, VO-F6 will tell you everything that is selected. Cheers, Anne On 22 Mar 2011, at 08:18, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > Guys, > I went looking for Josh's tutorial that was refer

Re: Read system time with VO

2011-03-22 Thread Simon Cavendish
Go to Voiceover utility, and in the top general menu check the box to enable Voiceover to be controlled by apple scripts. Then arrow down to the commanders and enable keyboard commander. Once you have done it, within the keyboard commander tab, you will see a table where in you ccan find the alr

Re: 10.6.7 definetely smoother

2011-03-22 Thread joseph
is this what they call lion? best On 21 Mar 2011, at 21:59, Cheree wrote: > Cheree Heppe here: > > What's X Slimmer and Cocktail? > > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 21/03/2011, at 14:55, Yuma Decaux wrote: > >> Been opening editing and checking applications in

Re: 10.6.7 definetely smoother

2011-03-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
No. Lion will be version 10.7. That is due out sometime this summer; or so i believe. Trust me, when Lion is close to coming out, this list, along with others, will be swarming with all kinds of either rumors or details about those changes. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a

Re: Outspoken VS. VoiceOver

2011-03-22 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, I'm an old outspoken user, and i can say that for its time it was the best screen reader i'd used on any platform, but then we'll have to remember that in Sweden we only used one screen reader for Dos, and it could be quite cumbersome to set up and so on. True enough we didn't have the contr

mail question

2011-03-22 Thread joseph
hi listers how to select an address for a contact who has more than one address to send in mail? thank you in advance best -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: credit card reader apps for the iPhone?

2011-03-22 Thread Christy Schulte
Oh! I like this one even better than the one I was looking at. The per transaction charges are higher, but I like the no monthly charges idea. My only concern is what it's going to do when the card reader is plugged into the headphone jack. I noticed that the app automatically reroutes sound to

Re: 10.6.7 definetely smoother, and a Question

2011-03-22 Thread Teresa Cochran
I'm liking it already. I left it to do its installing thing while I puttered around the house, and it was ready to go when I came back to it. It's snappier for sure, and I haven't had the spontaneous activation of quick-navigation mode, either. (touch wood!) This discussion brings me to a quest

acapella voices

2011-03-22 Thread Denise Avant
hi all, I was thinking of trying out one of the acapella voices on the macbook pro. i was wondering if others have tried them, and how responsive they are in comparison to the ones on the mac. where do i find them? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "M

firefox 4 is out. Wonder what the chances are for some accessibility?

2011-03-22 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hello listers. As I write this, I am downloading FireFox 4 that was just released today. I'll launch it and see if we have any access at all. I know that there were some rumours going around the list about some developer trying to make 4 work with VO. I'll let you all know what I find out. Matt Ca

RE: Outspoken VS. VoiceOver

2011-03-22 Thread Bejarano, Rafael P.
As I see it, the fact that VO only works with applications created in Objective C/Cocoa is a serious limitation of this screen reader. That's not to say that I don't appreciate Apples commitment to providing a free screen reader, but I do miss the simplicity of Outspoken, as well as its greater

Re: mail question

2011-03-22 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi Joseph: When you have a contact with several addresses, I believe a menu comes up, offering you the opportunity to choose. If you don't find it when you type in their name, try doing vo-shift-m, or check your header with the arrows. HTH Carolyn On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:49 AM, joseph wrote: > h

VO and word processing

2011-03-22 Thread Kimberly
Hi, I do some pretty heavy duty word processing including using track changes etc. Does anyone have any thoughts or observations on what word processing programs work best on the Mac and with VO? I was considering Open Office and Word for Mac, but I'm open to other suggestions. Any help is appre

Re: voice over list?

2011-03-22 Thread Ashley Cox
try the macvoiceover mailinglist, search for it on freelists.org ash On 22/03/2011 00:07, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: Hello, is there a list out there strictly for the voice over screen reader? Just asking since I don't see much on here about the key strokes and such. -- You received this message

Re: An informal Podcast regarding Pro Tools

2011-03-22 Thread Jes Smith
What do you do if the ILock is misplaced or stolen, or if it dies? On Mar 21, 2011, at 6:46 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: > Pro Tools uses something called iLok. It's a dongle that licenses are > downloaded to. As long as the iLok is plugged in, everything will run. Go to > http://www.ilok.com to lea

Re: Read system time with VO

2011-03-22 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Thanks, everybody. enabling keyboard commander did the trick. Kevin Simon Cavendish wrote: > Go to Voiceover utility, and in the top general menu check the box to enable > Voiceover to be controlled by apple scripts. Then arrow down to the > commanders and enable keyboard commander. Once you ha

Re: VO and word processing

2011-03-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Kimber, I use Pages for my work as a translator. However, I've never used the Track Changes feature because I find it confusing. If it happens to be turned on when I receive a document to be translated, the first thing I do is turn it off. Apart from that, Pages works well except for read

Re: acapella voices

2011-03-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Denise, I'm slightly confused by your question. Your MacBook Pro is a Mac, so of course the Acapela voices work on it. You can't buy just one voice, however. They come as packs, and the number of voices depends on the language. For French, we get 5 French voices plus the American voice He

Re: acapella voices

2011-03-22 Thread Denise Avant
hi, i did not know you had to buy them in a group. but ok. basically i still was interested in what people thought of them. i think i heard about them on some podcast. On Mar 22, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Denise, > > I'm slightly confused by your question. Your MacBook Pr

Re: acapella voices

2011-03-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Denise, The Acapela voices are excellent. The only minor drawback is that they cannot change pitch to indicate a capital letter. Otherwise, no problem and if anything, they're more responsive than Alex. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: acapella voices

2011-03-22 Thread AZ
Hi. Maybe these voices are more responsive, but I don't like them because they are not correct with other languages. Using a russian voice I can't read english words because of the pronounciation, and it takes a lot of time making a dictionary. It's a reason for me to like voices from Nuance,

Re: An informal Podcast regarding Pro Tools

2011-03-22 Thread Frank Carmickle
Hi For more on pro tools send a message to ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com. We will answer all of your questions over there. --FC On Mar 22, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Jes Smith wrote: > What do you do if the ILock is misplaced or stolen, or if it dies? > > On Mar 21, 2011, at 6:46 AM, Kevin Reev

Re: acapella voices

2011-03-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Az, The French voices are fantastic! As for pronouncing English, of course voices that are good in another language are going to be terrible at pronouncing English as the sounds are different. The English voices are useless at pronouncing French. However, it's extremely easy to switch vo

Re: acapella voices

2011-03-22 Thread AZ
Hi Thanks, I frequently do cmd+vo+arrows. But there are some cases with combined texts. I'm wondering why the company,which makes english and other voices doesn't make one multilingual? AZ 22.03.2011 22:49, Anne Robertson writes: Hello Az, The French voices are fantastic! As for prono

Re: An informal Podcast regarding Pro Tools

2011-03-22 Thread Chuck Reichel
Hi Jes, "if the ILock is misplaced" I guess you watch apple tv! LOL Come join us on the Pro Tools list! Talk soon On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi For more on pro tools send a message to ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com . We will answer all of your questions over the

Re: Read system time with VO

2011-03-22 Thread Html-man
Problem is that enabling the keyboard commander and sometimes pressing the right option+t combination makes VoiceOver crash. Any solutions for this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisi

downloading program

2011-03-22 Thread Denise Avant
hi all, i have had some difficulty in downloading and installing programs. for example, i just downloaded the acapella english voices. the folder went to the downloads folder on my mac. i highlighted the folder and opened it, so the install would start. i'm not sure if it did or not. earlier tod

Re: downloading program

2011-03-22 Thread Simon Cavendish
In my experience, when applications are downloaded onto a mac computer, they usually are placed by default in the download folder in your home folder. The extension on the file that's just been downloaded is usually dmg. sometimes, you will see in your finder a folder related to the downloaded a

Re: downloading program

2011-03-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Denise, I assume the Infovox iVox voices package you downloaded was a .dmg file. If so, when you open it, you have a folder containing a number of files. Look for the one with the .pkg extension and open it with Cmd-O. You will then be guided through the installation process. If you aren

Re: 10.6.7 definetely smoother, and a Question

2011-03-22 Thread Scott Howell
Teresa, Yes. If you navigate through the Software Update screen, you will find an html area that contains release notes. YOU are not likely to find much information about accessibility directly, but there is information that might be of interest. I do not recall if you have to click on the deta

Re: 10.6.7 definetely smoother, and a Question

2011-03-22 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks for that, Scott. I'll look more carefully next time there's an update. I'll see if I can poke around the updates app or the website to find past info as well. Teresa On Mar 22, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Teresa, > > Yes. If you navigate through the Software Update screen,

10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread louie
I am still having voice over quitting. I press f5 four times to get voice over back. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To uns

Re: downloading program

2011-03-22 Thread Denise Avant
hi, ok, i will try this. once the programs are installed, do does the various voices go under the area where you make the speech pitch rate changes? sorry about this, but as a former windows user, and even a current one at work, i find the download process for apple a bit confusing. On Mar 22, 2

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I'm having what I call partial crashes. What will sometimes happen is this. I'll be proceeding as normal, and then, Voice OVer will crash in such a way that I hear the voice over sounds but no speech. Nothing will restore it at all; not even control+Option+command+eject. The only solution in

Re: downloading program

2011-03-22 Thread Denise Avant
hi simon, ok, i will save this message for future reference. i also noticed that a book i had bought and downloaded from audible went to to downloads instead of itunes. i guess i thought that was an automatic one. On Mar 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > In my experience, when appl

Re: downloading program

2011-03-22 Thread Simon Cavendish
I seem to remember that while I was struggling to transit from Windows to Mac - and one of those steps was buying books from Audible.com - I had chosen an option somewhere to have my audible books automatically downloaded into iTunes. I am not being much help - sorry - as I can't remember how it

10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread louie
I lost first letter navigation in the dock. I had to remove items from the dock and reboot. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Whenever I experience these symptoms, which isn't all that often, I just hit cmd-f5 until VO begins speaking again. Works every time. I've never needed to reboot. On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:58:34 -0500, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >I'm having what I call partial crashes. What will sometimes happen is thi

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Sometimes that works for me, and sometimes not. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Whenever I experience these symptoms, which isn

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Matthew Campbell
Is your keyboard commander on? My VoiceOver does that part crash thing too but if I turn off the keyboard commander, it'll work fine again. On 2011-03-22, at 5:58 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > I'm having what I call partial crashes. What will sometimes happen is this. > I'll be proceeding as norma

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Yes, my keyboard commander is on. Let's say I have such a crash again. How then, without speech, can I turn keyboard commander off? Also, will I then be able to get speech back? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Fac

Re: 10.6.7 definetely smoother, and a Question

2011-03-22 Thread Andre Nuno Soares
Hi, The support article on the MacOS X v10.6.7 update is: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4472 HTH, André On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Thanks for that, Scott. I'll look more carefully next time there's an > update. I'll see if I can poke around the updates app or the we

Extremely Frustrated trying to copy and paste . . .

2011-03-22 Thread Christine Grassman
Hello, everyone. Here I am again, one of the poor souls drifting with shame from the world of Windows into the enlightened precincts of Macdom. It continues to be a rather bumpy newbie ride. Although I have not had any difficulty selecting, copying, and pasting from e-mails and text files, I ca

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Andre Nuno Soares
Hello Ray, Do you have "Allow VoiceOver to be controlled with AppleScript" checked? Many people have reported VO crashing when using the Keyboard Commander and having this option off. Check it in VO Utility, General category. HTH, André On Mar 22, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Ye

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Matthew Campbell
Just press control option shift k to turn off the keyboard commander and speach will come back on it's own. On 2011-03-22, at 6:57 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Yes, my keyboard commander is on. Let's say I have such a crash again. How > then, without speech, can I turn keyboard commander off? Al

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Thanks. I believe I had it unchecked. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Mar 22, 2011, at 6:16 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: > Hello Ray, > > Do you have "Allow VoiceOver to be

Re: 10.6.7

2011-03-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Thanks. Now that I've checked allow Voice Over to run scripts, I don't anticipate crashes, however, should it happen again, thanks for the tip. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On

Re: credit card reader apps for the iPhone?

2011-03-22 Thread Kevin Reeves
I think the answer to the sound routhing issue is to run the reader thorough a splitter and an ear piece to the other side. However, the splitter has to be a designated iPod splitter, as it contains the extra sleeve for data transfer on the 3.5 jack. I'm definitely going to check all of this out

ipad users

2011-03-22 Thread Denise Avant
hi all, i'm wondering if the audible app will work on the ipad as well as the iphone. i transferred some apps to my ipad, and of the 40 i have, it only transferred 8 as i have list ipad only. interestingly enough, overdrive was in the ipad list but audible was not. i just spoke to someone who t

some more info on the haptic tech maybe used by apple

2011-03-22 Thread Yuma Decaux
Alright, so i checked more in depth on the science daily article i linked a week ago on haptic techs being considered for touch screens. Here is the link to the actual technology created by a california based company: http://www.artificialmuscle.com/technology/epam.php I've tried going to the c

Re: ipad users

2011-03-22 Thread David McLean
I use Audible on the Ipad frequently. It works very well. You can download it directly to the Ipad from the app store. I found it best to download books from your Audible library to the Ipad directly rather than trying to sync them with your computer. That ensures they end up in the right pl

Re: hotspots again, might be doing something wrong

2011-03-22 Thread Jes Smith
Once you set a hot spot, it should stay there until you remove it. I'm not sure why it's not working that way for you, and I don't think it's anything you're doing. I wonder if something is wrong with your Mac OS X installation, and if so, please don't ask me because I have no idea. On Mar 21

Re: Extremely Frustrated trying to copy and paste . . .

2011-03-22 Thread Mike Arrigo
This can be a bit tricky, admitedly, the windows screen readers probably handle this a bit better. Interact with the text you want to select, then press control option enter to start selecting. Now move the voiceover cursor to the end of the text you want to select, then press control option ent

Re: Extremely Frustrated trying to copy and paste . . .

2011-03-22 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi: I've had that not work on some sites. Another more painful alternative is to select all with command A. Copy and paste it into a document, and then cut off that you don't want. This is one area where I think things Mac and Vo could improve. On Mar 22, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote

Big time Vo Crash

2011-03-22 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi guys: Well, it was bound to happen at some point, and when it did, it happened majorly. I was typing an email, when Vo just completely went dead. Command f5 had no effect, command vo f8 did nothing, and rebooting 4 different times after having to force a shutdown with the powerbutton didn't

RE: Big time Vo Crash

2011-03-22 Thread Andy Baracco
Gee! I use windows and Window Eyes, and my speech crashes once or twice a day. I wouldn't know what it would be like to go through a day without speech crashing. I guess all things are relative. (SMILE)! Andy "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." -Original Message- From: macvisionaries

Re: How to drag anddrop multiple selections

2011-03-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Anne and others, I have actually got VO to drag and drop between windows in some situations. Here's how and where. First situation is in Server Admin. Now, I know that most do not use this app but the gist of it may work in other similarly designed apps. In order to add members to groups

Re: How to drag anddrop multiple selections

2011-03-22 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi Tim, That's a good suggestion. Ok, this might not be exactly the same thing, but noticing that you use admin tools, i was wondering if and how you got into managed preferences for users in workgroup manager. That window is just plain impossible to get to unless you turn vo off and have sigh

Re: Extremely Frustrated trying to copy and paste . . .

2011-03-22 Thread Simon Cavendish
I have learnt to use yet another technique which is much faster to copy parts of the text from a webpage into an open text document. I use Voiceover clever feature called "copy last phrase to the clipboard" which you activate with vo+shift+c. Press this command immediately or shortly after voice

Re: ipad users

2011-03-22 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Denise, It will work. I know that from direct experience. Les On Mar 22, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Denise Avant wrote: > hi all, > i'm wondering if the audible app will work on the ipad as well as the iphone. > i transferred some apps to my ipad, and of the 40 i have, it only transferred > 8 as i