Dear John,
You put two fingers on the iPad and rotate them until you come to typing mode.
You flick down with two fingers and when you hear touch typing you double tap
to select it. It will stay in Touch Typing Mode until you go back to typing
mode and change it back to the traditional way of
Dear John,
The iBooks does have a search function where you can search for phrases and
such. Also, I believe you can search for books using iTunes. I hope you get
the iPad it is an amazing device. Have a wonderful day.
Blessings,
Ben King
On Jun 16, 2010, at 8:29 PM, John J Herzog wrote:
> Hi
Hello Dan,
On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Dan Roy wrote:
> Do you use IChat?
I'm afraid I don't use iChat as there seems to be a problem with our router
being incompatible with iChat. We can probably solve the problem, but it's low
on the priority list at the moment.
Cheers,
Anne
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Apart from a placebo feeling that things are running smoother, i just got my
first contacts group created without a problem :)
Now going to check if any new commands have been added to the voice over
applescript library as well as in voice over preferences.
Yuma DX®
"Light has no value w
Hi list,
Here is the list of applications affected by the update. They come usually when
their sizes change and my optimizer picks them for slimming.
bluetooth file exchange
Calculator
Dashboard
Disk Utility
Exposé
Front row
Ical
Ichat
Keychain access
Mail
Quicktime player
Raid utility
Sagari
Sp
Here is where I think one of the biggest issues is though. As a prospective
Mac user, from the demos and manuals, there seem to be an awful lot of
different and often complex keystrokes to do things. I'm not clear if one
needs all of them or if people doing the demos are making things more
complex
Here are some specific questions on areas where it appears Jaws is ahead.
1. In messenger programs, is it possible to have a set of keystrokes that
will read messages and stay within the history area while being able to type
in the edit area at the same time and review that typing? I would want to
You can have vo scripts but i don't find them necessary.
As for curser tracking you can do that in vo. just press vo shift f3 to toggle
that and it will remember where you are in a lot of apps at once if that is
off. Toggle it back on and you should be good to go. and saving locations you
can
You can create keyboard command shortcuts to perform basic tasks, such as
launch an application, tell you the current time, tell you how many unread
messages you have and I have assigned a toggle between DOM and Group mode for
when using Safari. mAC os x has scripting built into the OS which Vo
I found this interesting thread regarding scripting for VO:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg09201.html
On 17 Jun 2010, at 10:49, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> You can have vo scripts but i don't find them necessary.
>
> As for curser tracking you can do that in vo. just
Hi i seen people talking about the dj software what is it called and is there a
trial of it.
I want to check it out.
thanks
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This is what Mac demos never tell us though, and Mac users seem similar.
Navigating to between two areas could either be really simple or really
straightforward, depending whereabouts on the screen they are, looks like VO
is a recipe for RSI to me! Please discuss!
Cheers
Dave
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Thanks. That is interesting and I largely agree. It is exactly getting
information quickly and easily and being able to instantly get at areas of
applications that concerns me. Accessibility requires that the users knows
where they are and how to proceed at all times, and VO seems very good at
that
Here is what to do when doing IM with VoiceOver:
•Navigate to the text field
•Press control-option-shift-F3 to turn cursor tracking off
•Navigate to the area for incoming messages
•read and answer just by navigating the message area, you don't need to move to
the text field. Just write and press e
Hi,
I think it's by Algerythm. I think there's a link to it on the Rogue Amoeba
site. THey have Nicecast which allows you to broadcast and there is a link to
the DJ software. Just go to:
http://www.rogueamoeba.com
Click on Our Programs and scroll down. I hope that helps!
Allison
On Jun 17, 201
Dave,
I can only speak for me personally, but first I believe some of these
tutorials or podcasts do make things seem complicated, but in reality it is not
as difficult as it may seem. I am sure when you started out with a
windows-based screen reader, all those keystrokes seemed a littl
hey thanks just tried that and it works a treat, shame it does not auto read
out the new message automatically as it arrives, but still a damn sight better
then the way I was using IM before. Just tried it with Adium, will try it with
ichat/facebook when I get that working again.
On 17 Jun 201
Great, you might also play with the "watch at hot spot" feature in VO. It might
work with some IM services, but not with others.
•Navigate to the line where the most recent incoming message is shown.
•Press control-option-shift-1 or another number to set the Hot Spot.
•Press control-option-comman
Sorry, I think at least for now, you're stuck with Samantha. You could though,
change the country to UK, which would give you a British voice, can't remember
which one it is, though. Be warned if you do this that it will also change a
few other things like how your date is displayed.
Take care
Um, well, I feel a little foolish. It hadn't occurred to me to look at
the supported Braille displays list in the updated help file. Amazing
that the updates came about exactly a day after I purchased the Focus
40 Blue. Whew!
Teresa
Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Everything seems to be going
well, the voiceover is built-in and for a pac mate user like you, it is
supported by voice over so you could use it as a braille display without
installing any drivers. plus, when you lose speech, it restarts the screen
reader restarts so you won't have to worry about it. and, if you ever need t
Hi,
As far as I know, though, there is no way to pan the display. I haven't found a
way, but hopefully, it's just me overlooking something.
At any rate, I suggested it to the accessibility team because I felt like I was
looking everywhere with no luck. But that was really the only disadvantage
Hi Teresa,
Congratulations on using your Focus 40 Blue. I'm still trying to have the
Commissin purchase a Handytech Braillino for me. I wonder if the BrailleNote
Mpower will work being that Snow Leopard was just updated. Hmm, I should try
that. Have a great day!
Allison
On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:4
Hi Donna,
Thank you again for this wonderful and helpful information. I tried what you
described last night, but unfortunately had to change back to Samantha due to
how the date and time were displayed. I just wish that everyone didn't use
Samantha as the default voice. She can grade on your ne
Ugh! Loquendo Susan was awful! I couldn't believe that people actually paid
extra for that voice! lol
Samantha doesn't bother me as much as she does some people, but who knows.
Maybe as upcoming versions of the iphone get more processing power, there'll be
options for other voices.
Take care,
hello; from my experience I generally use vo, which is control plus
option, with the arrow keys, space bar, and shift key. I use tab and
shift tab for some things. I use vo i and vo u a lot for the links
menu and items menu. and if you have the newer ones and are familiar
with using a m
Hi, Alison,
Basically, it seems that only direct USB and Bluetooth displays are supported.
For example, my Braille Lite is not supported, even with a USB-to-serial
connector. (I even installed the drivers for the adapter, and it works with
ZTerm, so I can transfer my files).
Here's the Braille
There has been some talk about IM clients lately and I thought folks might be
interested in something I just learned about yesterday on another Mac-related
list. You can get your incoming IChat messages read out to you by opening the
Ichat preferences (command comma when in Ichat. There is an ev
This is very useful, thank you Mary. I also stumbled across this when I looked
in the VO help area getting started, using os x applications. There is a very
useful section on using iChat. I forgot how useful pressing VO+H is for help
is lol.
On 17 Jun 2010, at 16:51, Mary Otten wrote:
> The
adium doesn't seem to have the problem of crashing vo when interacting
with chat areas. It also doesn't separate accounts into multiple
windows like ichat does. You can also get messagesread allowed in
adium too. Might want to try it out.
On 6/17/10, Chris Moore wrote:
> This is very useful, t
Of course, we can also add the fact that aps are so easy to install on the Mac.
I couldn't believe it the first time I installed an ap. I remember thinking,
"Is that all there is to it?"
On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Someone mentioned this earlier but, maintenance. I
Thought I'd share this email I got back from accessibil...@apple.com
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Accessibility
> Date: June 17, 2010 2:56:17 AM CDT
> To: Pete Nalda
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver Used to automatically jump to the Text Area When
> Opening a Mail Message but not in 10.6.4
>
> Hi
Hi all,
I know this is probably an odd question, but how do you sync music to the
Iphone? I know how to sync by selecting sync entire music library, but it has
cut down severely on the free space. Is there any way to select what gets
synced? I know there is a sync selected playlists and artist
what problems are you having? I just use VO +J and it works fine. Mind I must
admit it would be nice if I did not have to do that.
On 17 Jun 2010, at 17:09, Pete Nalda wrote:
> Thought I'd share this email I got back from accessibil...@apple.com
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Accessi
Yeah, my point was, that we didn't have to do that before, or at least I
didn't. I did find a way to duplicate vo+j by 2 finger swiping right then down
on the trackpad. I just wanted them to know that we didn't have to do those
things pre 10.6.4
On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Chris Moore wrote
Hi folks,
I just had a look through the braille support section of the vo help, since I'm
at least thinking about getting a display. I've never had one of my own; I use
to use one at work, and it was wonderful for foreign language work. So now I
have some questions that the help section didn't
Allison,
There's an option that reads something like: "Sync only manually checked songs"
or something like that. Make sure that's checked, and then you'll be able to
sync only selected music.
Donna
On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know this is probably an
Hi all,
One other braille related question. Is it possible for a bluetooth display to
be paired with more than one device? Not simultaneously, of course. but could
you have an Ipad and an Iphone and a Mac, all of which are paired with the one
braille display, using one or another of these device
Hi Mary,
I'm the one who desperately wants the Braillino :). I have never seen the
Handytech displays in person, but I was very impressed with their customer
service staff. I'm trying to get the state agency here in New York, The
Commission for the Blind to pay for the Braillino. The display I
What awful keystrokes! I am not 50 fingered lol! By the way, complex
keystrokes is also an issue on Windows, which is why I think the trackpad is
so exciting!
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is there a way to move things around on the doc? Like if I wanted to group apps
together?
Thanks
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Hi
Oh yes, I remember the last major OS transition well and my points are to
try to avoid people making the same mistakes again. People who view a new OS
as a challenge and try to develop rigid ways of doing things in it cause
half the problems in my view. However, I think screen readers have to m
Wish you could lock the VO keys with an arrow based command, that would make
a lot of difference I think!
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:38 PM
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Hello Mary,
You can download a multi-lingual Braille package from:
http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm
All the instructions are there.
Cheers,
Anne
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You can but it is a bit slow.
1. get to the doc bu vo d or ctrl f3.
2. arrow to the app you want to j move and hit option cmd right and left arrow
to move stuff around until you are satisfied. That should dot he trick.
Tood luck.
S
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:07 AM, clarence griffin wrote:
> is
Has no one told you about Quick Nav? It sounds like what you're asking for.
However, you won't get any idea of VoiceOver by just asking questions. If you
can get to an Apple Store or Apple reseller, try one out.
Cheers,
Anne
On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Wish you could lo
I have one with leopard and i do that with control option semi colon.
in snow leopard you have what is called quick nav that is similar but
better. I have to press semi colon to turn the lock off to enter
text, but its a big help. ask someone to tell you about their
experiences with quic
in case you did not know, to activate quick nav hold the cursor keys left and
right together until you hear quick nav is on, press agains to turn it off.
quick nav saves you having to hold down the VO buttons when surfing the web etc
On 17 Jun 2010, at 18:18, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Has n
Hello; you can find apples at either an authorized store or best buy.
If you can get to a demo model you just type command f5 or shift
command f5 and voiceover will come on. then you go to command f8 or
shift command f8 and that should take you to the customization
menues. Might be wrong
yes, select the item in the doc you wish to move and then press and hold the
option key and the command key together whilst pressing the cursor key left or
right depending on where you wish to move the app to. voice over will announce
what it is moving and to where as you press the cursor keys.
I saw it discussed the other day but has anyone figured out why the audible.com
crahes and a solution for that?
Kev
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Quick Nav certainly sounds excellent but doesn't appear to mimic things like
VO J. I in fact instigated the BCAB Apple day in July after Sight Village
Birmingham which seems to be very popular, so will be doing exactly what you
suggest as well. I'm asking so many questions right now in order to
Hi Anne,
Since I don't have a display yet, I don't imagine trying to install this will
be terribly useful just now, but I did read the instructions and have a
question. I get the idea that if you install this package, you can't switch
between American English contracted braille and some other la
I figured it out.
Instead of going to audible.com, I went to audible.com/mylibrary.
All is good,
Kev
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ah! Thank you!
GF
On Jun 17, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> yes, select the item in the doc you wish to move and then press and hold the
> option key and the command key together whilst pressing the cursor key left
> or right depending on where you wish to move the app to. voice over
Hi Mary.
If I should recommend a display, I would recommend a display from
baum, 32 or 40 cells and choose the one with a braille keyboard that
is called vario connect. I know that it is more expensive than other
displays on the market, but it is a good quality it is rather small
and it has the a
It is a quick and dirty solution but it works. You can't put them in to folders
but you can group them together in abc order if you wanted to. lol.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:59 AM, clarence griffin wrote:
> ah! Thank you!
>
> GF
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>
>> yes, sel
Now Olivia,
As an avid science fiction reader, watcher and even singer, I feel you have
insulted science fiction to the core by slapping the name of a noble genre onto
a company which has absolutely no interest in the end users of its products.
Remember the first law of robotics? Do not harm hum
There is quicknav which works a treat. I think, for those of us that don't have
a track pad, quick nav is nearly as awesome!
Friendly,
Chris
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Wish you could lock the VO keys with an arrow based command, that would make
> a lot of difference I th
LOL! I shall keep that in mind! :)
Very true.
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
On Jun 17, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> Now Olivia,
> As an avid science fiction reader, watcher and even singer, I feel you have
> insulted science fiction to th
Thanks for the tip, annie. I thikn those Baum displays are sold here under the
Humanware brand; there doesn't seem to be a Baum dealer in the U.S.
Mary
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On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>
> Since I don't have a display yet, I don't imagine trying to install this will
> be terribly useful just now, but I did read the instructions and have a
> question. I get the idea that if you install this package, you can't switch
Mary you can pare the device with as many machines, iPhones, etc. you wish. Of
course you can't use them all at once, which is a bummer. :) Ok, so I just want
that all inclusive single-point control box. Then I could run the WOrld or at
least my little part of it. :)
On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:41 PM
Me again,
so have done the OSX update and Safari 5 and iTunes, ok I don't so far seem to
be having the major issues people were having with Safari so far. I have been
able to log in to my audible.co.uk account ok and so far no issues on the Apple
site. I have noticed the issue of VO not start
Hi Dave;
What you'd like to do in Mail on the Mac in Snow Leopard 10.6.4 with VO, is
certainly doable. :)
First, simply move to the messages table and then just use plain arrow keys
(no VO keys necessary) to move through your message headers. This will read the
sender and subject etc. as y
Hi Anne,
Thanks for setting me straight on the ability to have both contracted english
and other languages in uncontracted braille. Apple is providing multilingual
support for ios4, but its not yet in SL. So if I end up with a display, I will
most certainly install the package I got from your si
Now then. I suspected that was the case, but it amazes me that the demos
tell you to do things entirely differently. This kind of description is
exactly what we need more of. We need to make things as intuitive as
possible. You've certainly given me just what I need to make sure our
session works,
Hi Cara,
In a recent message you noted that it is possible to reorder the columns in the
messages table. I see in the view menu where you can eliminate some although
message status isn't one of them, sadly. But I don't see where you can reorder
them, e.g. I want subject first, furtherst to the
hi,
I think there is a good reason for this. I'll try to explain my own reasoning
below for those who care.
Since VoiceOver is integrated into Mac OS X, VoiceOVer demos will obviously
show you how to do things using VoiceOVer-specific commands only, and do not
necessarily have to focus upon us
Just would like to add to Cara's tip that if you would like to only hear
subjects, but don't wanna change your column setup, you can select VO to
automatically interact with tables when using tab key (a setting in the
navigation category of VO Utility), and use this method also after interacting
Hi folks,
So that odd resetting your position on a website thing I wrote about a while
back has occurred again. This time, it's with a fairly used news site.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/5TipsForHagglingOverMedicalBills.aspx?GT1=33004
According to a sighted fri
Brandon, I'd like to agree with yu regarding the install of the OS. I would
also loke to poit out that that I've had my mac for over a year now and I love
it.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
> well, the voiceover is built-in and for a pac mate user like you, it is
> supporte
yeah and when we gt pissed off enough and start crashing their networks maybe
they will get the idea or maybe we will all just stop buying their service...
where are the hackers when we need them to hack service from some of these
multi millionaire clients? lol
I'm just sick of being screwed le
what is unethical is the fact that apple doesn't kick at and t in the ball sof
r screwing us ont he data prices!!! i doubt i wil be getting a new I phone
becuase of the screw job at and t is doing to us and verizon will surely
screw us as well beofre they get the I phone it was expensive e
Hi Mary;
While the process to rearrange columns is somewhat annoying in my opinion, :)
it is really a set it and forget it type of thing, so once you do it you really
need not do it again. I.E. these settings will persist over newer versions of
Mail as well as entire OS updates or restorati
I did encounter the issue, but not sure what the cause is. However, I use
groups mode and once I located the beginning of the article, I was able to just
arrow down (I was using quick nav) and I was able to read the entire article,
which was quite interesting by the way.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:01
It sounds like your just mad for the sake of being mad. ATT is not screwing
people over data prices per say. It is just the feeling of having limits
placed on you. The timing was definitely grimy but, most people will end up
saving money in the long run.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Michael
NO problem Dave! :) -Glad I could help!
this is one aspect of the Mac which is very important. The idea that there
are several ways to do something doesn't need to be confusing.
there are patterns in the system keystrokes on a Mac just like there are on
Windows. -And, to be honest, these
Hi listers,
I really like my drop box as it allows me to synch all my dev projects with my
team 4000 clicks away, and i have been looking at other ways to increase
porductivity.
In this case, wordpress 3 which has just come out allows one to manage his
blogs from one central blog.
This is a p
thanks, Cara, for the post from Josh. I don't have a Macbook, so the trackpad
isn't available here. But I do have numpad commander and quicknav. Not much
good here, but good other places. Tradeoffs.
mary
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themac is great if you dont plan on doing any irc and don't expect much if
anything in the way of amateur radio software. theonly ham radio software i
have found so far that I have used that is accessible is mac doppler and it's
abit expensive at $09 bu tit works
On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:21 PM, K
Agreed. I normally don't speak out over your oppiones but at&t has been nothing
but nice to me and I'm even going to maybe consult the dev about making the app
for the iphone they have more accessibal. Go for the iphone. 5 gigs is a lot
and you will never use all of it. In fact I was out on 3g t
Hi All;
while I know we all get a bit upset from time to time, let's please keep this
a bit easy on the language. Okay?…
I don't really mind the occasional bit of colorful language here and there
for emphasis if need be, however, yelling through your keyboard I.E. throwing
together a st
...and if you use the Mouse Keys feature, it's even easier to move a mail
message column:
•Turn off the NumPad Commander and turn on Mouse Keys, for example with the 5
times option key pressed (if you have enabled this shortcut)
•Make sure VO will speak what's under the mouse (see VO Utilities)
actually you can do irc through the termanal. I believe the software i scalle
irsi but I don't use the terminal so someone more knoledgible can correct me on
that one.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> themac is great if you dont plan on doing any irc and don't expect much i
hw do you get addoum to read the incomming chats automatically I must have
missed that
On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote:
> adium doesn't seem to have the problem of crashing vo when interacting
> with chat areas. It also doesn't separate accounts into multiple
> windows like
how do you figure that if you don't actually USE your phone maybe, but i want
an I phone for streaming and data NOT for yapping onthe phone i also want it
for the echlink client and skype. i almost never talk on the telephone. and i
can suck down 2 gb in a day I'd imagine. a couple hours of st
the limit was 2 gig if it was 5 I wouldn't be upset
On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> Agreed. I normally don't speak out over your oppiones but at&t has been
> nothing but nice to me and I'm even going to maybe consult the dev about
> making the app for the iphone they have mor
I missed the thread but probably through growl. I don't do that though as I
don't like to be disturbed but to each his or her own.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> how do you get adium to read the incoming chats automatically I must have
> missed that
>
> On Jun 17, 2010, a
Hi,
I'm trying to download some podcasts to my Mack and when I press VO-space, it
plays it. I do try to do VO-shift-M, but there's no option to download the
linked file. And with direct links from Dropbox, it does the same thing. Any
help with these two matters would be greatly appreciated.
Cour
No you canb't. the data rate is different I believe. I'll have to look up
where I saw a comaprison but I believe teh phone companies stram in bits not
bytes so 8 mb I used for the whle day was not bad pluss I am onthe wireless
network 99 poercent of the time. only when I'm out am I on edge or 3
You have to go to preferences with command comma, interact with the toolbar, go
to events, find the event you want to modify and click edit. One of the
choices is to read incoming events. You might have to play with it for a while
till you get it set up, but it's worth it. I'll see if there i
Can I vertically center text on a page using Text edit? If so, how can I do
this? I can't figure it out nor can I find any help via a google search.
Thanks,
Christina
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As to 1, I find messaging on the Mac to be much, much more enjoyable
than I ever did on Windows. If you want to, you can use it the way you
describe, so you don't have to switch back and forth between the
message area and typing field, but even if you use it by tabbing
between them, your place is g
Hi,
Thanks a lot for this, Cara and Josh. I've always been wanting to know how to
do this. :)
Regards,
Nic
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On Jun 18, 2010,
Laura, very well stated and very much to the point.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Laura M wrote:
> As to 1, I find messaging on the Mac to be much, much more enjoyable
> than I ever did on Windows. If you want to, you can use it the way you
> describe, so you don't have to switch back and forth be
So, would you be upset if AT&T instead setup a price plan for users such as
yourself and charged $100 a month for unlimited data? Maybe AT&T needs to "fix"
their infrastructure, but they still reserve the right to charge whatever they
choose for their service. YOu of course always have the optio
Hi again fellow mac folk,
When I'm chatting in skype, every time the other person responds, I get this
weird "growl system wrap dialog" thing. I end up having to command tab back to
the chat window to read the response. Is there a way I can either modify
growl's behavior, perhaps with a muzzle,
On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
themac is great if you dont plan on doing any irc
tried xchat and macirssi?
i have used it for over 2 years works perfectly
sandi
and don't expect much if anything in the way of amateur radio
software. theonly ham radio softwar
Hi,
I don't know how much this will help, but I just turned it off, I think it's
under system preferences or maybe in the Skype preferences.
HTH,
Courtney
On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> Hi again fellow mac folk,
> When I'm chatting in skype, every time the other person respo
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