Hi,

Thanks a lot for this, Cara and Josh. I've always been wanting to know how to 
do this. :)

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On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:42 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

>   Hi Mary;
> 
>   While the process to rearrange columns is somewhat annoying in my opinion, 
> :) it is really a set it and forget it type of thing, so once you do it you 
> really need not do it again. I.E. these settings will persist over newer 
> versions of Mail as well as entire OS updates or restorations from backups. 
> 
>   Here's an excerpt (below) from a post from Josh De Lioncourt on this, which 
> is how I learned it. :) Thanks Josh! -Just a note of my own though, I'm 
> actually able to avoid many of these steps now and simply do this free-hand 
> with the trackpad as I have VO set to speak what's under the mouse with no 
> delay. So I go to the top of the table as Josh says and route my mouse cursor 
> to VO. then, I do everything else just by using the trackpad. VO allows me to 
> locate the button I'd like, and I then hold down the trackpad button and move 
> left or right, depending on where I'd like to move the column. There is guess 
> work here with this approach though, as VO doesn't seem to want to read while 
> I'm dragging, so I first note where the columns are currently, and then move 
> appropriately. So Josh's solution may offer more feedback when you get to 
> this point. Best of luck and enjoy!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> ---Josh's post follows---
> 
> 
> If you're comfortable using the mouse or trackpad, you can actually do this 
> on your own.  I just figured out how.  Here's the steps.
> 
> Move to the top of the messages table and, while interacting with it, 
> navigate to the status column, which is one of those that says "blank".  Then 
> do this:
> 
> 1. Move the mouse to VO cursor with VO-Command-F5
> 
> 2. Lock the VO keys with VO-Semicolon
> 
> 3.  Move the mouse/trackpad slowly upward while repeatedly pressing F5 to 
> hear what's under the mouse.  Eventually, you will hear "Status sort button". 
>  I don't know of anyway to get to these directly with VO, but VO does 
> recognize them.  These are the column headers and you will notice that they 
> exist for all the columns.
> 
> 4. Physically hold down the mouse button and slowly drag to the right.  You 
> will pass over the other sort buttons.  If you move off course above or 
> below, you can adjust and find the sort buttons again.  Once you've passed 
> all the columns, let go of the mouse button.  You will know it is safe to do 
> this because VO will report the "Status Sort button" is under your mouse 
> instead of the others.
> 
> It's not an elegant, or even great, solution, but it works if you're 
> comfortable with the mouse.  I drag-and-drop like this all the time when the 
> VO D&D doesn't get the job done.  I just did this in mail and now have the 
> Status column to the far right and out of the way.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> Hi Cara,
> In a recent message you noted that it is possible to reorder the columns in 
> the messages table. I see in the view menu where you can eliminate some 
> although message status isn't one of them, sadly. But I don't see where you 
> can reorder them,  e.g. I want subject first, furtherst to the left in the 
> row, such that it will be the first thing read when moving through the table 
> as you described to Dave. Tab to the preview pane, read the message, delete 
> it and you're moved back to the messages table. then you have to listen to 
> the message status and the sender's info before you hear the next subject. 
> I'd like to not hear message status and would like subject prior to sender. 
> Not a big deal unless you've got hundreds of emails backed up, I suppose. but 
> it would be nice. 
> 
> Mary
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