Hi Donna,
I'd be interested in knowing this as well. Currently, I hold down either arrow
key for a few seconds until VO informs me that I'm at the top or bottom of the
message list. It doesn't say that specifically, but when at either end, speech
is heard and I know I''m at the top or bottom
ok, for one, I tried subbing to the group for IPod and IPhone support, but
it's teling me the list doesn't exist. This may be a question for ester or
some of you real savvy IPod users. although anyone, feel free to answer.
Now you tell me, this is not totally bizarre. I have one playlist set
I almost forgot:
If I am in the now playing sceen, on hover on the album graffic art work,
then flick left a few times to the album tracks button, if I double tap
that, o yeah, it brings up all the tracks, but starting from 1, working
down, again, they're in alphabetical order, not album order.
Guies, disregard my last post. I think I found the issue with my sorting.
I'm not totally! sure yet, but I can almost! guarantee.
I'll let you all know if my theory winds up not being correct.
Chris.
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Okay,
Jus two quick questions:
1. Can I convert a .m3u playlist in to an ITunes Playlist?
2. IF not, how do I add to an already existing .m3u playlist using the Mac?
I found that apparently, ITunes will play the files in an already
existing .m3u playlist in the correct order which is
Oh, that's handy. I hadn't tried that. Thanks, Esther.
Donna
On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Donna,
>
> I just wanted to add, that in the mail messages table if you press
> option-up arrow or option down-arrow (short key press without holding
> down for about a second), you can na
Glad it was helpful Israel. Sometimes I would also type the letters
of someone's name, but I would run into trouble in say Sent Mail,
where I didn't always remember the name of someone to whom I'd sent a
message.
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:07 PM, Israel wrote:
> Thank you for this
so are the kindwall or stanzer Iphone apps accsesable then?
kind regards trahern.
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NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very many
applications yet. If you can program in Python, you can help the team move it
forward. As a full time solution, though, it isn't ready for prime time yet.
I know both Mick and Jamie, the top of the NVDA team, and they work
Hi.
You can do this in two ways: You can interact with the text, and then press VO
return to start selection. Then select the text you wanna copy by pressing vo
right arrow. When you are finnish, press VO return again and press command c to
copy the text to your clipboard.
The second way is in
Hi Chris,
You wrote:
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very many
applications yet. If you can program in Python, you can help the team move
it forward. As a full time solution, though, it isn't ready for prime time
yet.
I have to disagree with you. I think NVDA is
Hi One and All,
I am trying to read a "pdf" file which I received via email.
I saved the attachment to my finder, and it shows up but when I open
it in pref, it is blank.
The file info: shows; Kind PDF Document
Size 153 KB
Pages 1
Dimensions 842 times 596
Security Method: none
Creator: Hewlett
Hi Stan,
The only thing I can think of at the moment is that the content of the PDF may
have been scanned in. Therefore, becasue the content is an image and not actual
content VO will be not be able to read it. Do you have an OSCR package that can
OCR PDF files? if so you could run it through
I would try opening with preview first, see if you can get
information through vo that way first.
Then if not, copy the document and run it through something like Abby
fine reader, then if for some reason something gets lost in
converstion you still have the original. But using fine reader
I guess I was referring to NVDA's relatively minimal support for the MS Office
applications which are usually required for a job using a PC in the US. NVDA
has the parts under their hood to equal or even surpass the support for MS
Office in JAWS or Window-Eyes but they haven't the resources to
Hi,
On here, I've been seeing a lot of references to Abby Fine Reader. From what I
gather, though, it won't actually let you do the scanning itself with Voice
Over so another solution such as Scanview is needed to bring the .jpg images in
to Abby Find Reader. Honestly, I'd realyl rather not u
Hello Stan,
On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Stan wrote:
> I am trying to read a "pdf" file which I received via email.
The file you are trying to read is probably a scanned image. You'll need an
OCR program to convert the scanned image to text.
Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com
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On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
> I think SA (both versions) has a magnification portion. I don't think I've
> ever heard of anyone actually using it so, as I can't see well enough to use
> it, I cannot say much about it.
The commercial version of System Access does have
All fair points Chris, although I've always found NVDA to be very good - at
lesat in Word. I too always look at the tools I or another user needs for
the job at hand, thus like you, I am not and hopefully will never be an
evangelist for one platform or piece of AT.
TC
James
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I don't normally use screen readers. I tried NVDA just to see what it
was like.
Word:
It works OK in Word.
Excel:
I have just now tried it in Excel. It worked ok in Excel just now.
Winamp:
I have tried in in Winamp. It does not read the tool tips in
Windamp. The menu headings are not read.
Speaking as an access technology trainer I have to say, I wish more people
would adopt nvda. The average age of my clients is about 65 years old. I'm
not training most people for job readiness, although I can and I have done.
The fact of the matter is, an 80 year old person does not need a $1
The file is a scanned docunet I am in no doubt. The file info says
Author: Hewlett Packard MFP. This Tells me that it is HP Multi-
Function Printer. So it is a Printer/Scanner/Coppier that was used to
create the PDF. You will need an OCR program to read the PDF.
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Anybody using Open Office on Leapoard NOT Snow Leapoard? Does the
cursor track in Zoom in Writer and the spreadsheet? I am thinking of
buying a Mac and thanks to this group found that Snow Leapoard had a
bug that stopped currsor tracking. I am just trying to find out if
Open Office realy does wo
You are quite right and I agree with you everything you've said.
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Speaking as an access technology trainer I have to say, I wish more people
would adopt nvda. Th
Hi Declan,
I use VoiceOver without Zoom and Zoom cursor myself, but I've set up
these features for others. I just ran through tests of this mode
(with someone looking to check these results), that cursor tracking
works in Pages and Numbers (of Open Office) under Leopard. This
configurati
Hi James, Thomas, Matt, and Declan,
Thank's, I do not have a OCR at this time, but will have to look into
getting one soon.
Cheers
Me2u&u2me,
Stan.
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Hi,
I want to move some aps on my Ipod touch.
I double tap and hold my finger on the Icon to be moved and hear the three
tones.
By sliding my finger slowly Voiceover announces the screen position the ap is
currently on so i know where to drop it.
However I can't figure out how for example
Hi,
As the subject line says, the item recently added has disappeared from my
sources table in Itunes.
How can I get it back?
many thanks in advance for any help received.
Kind regards
Graham
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On Dec 10, 2009, at 1:57 PM, graham wrote:
> I want to move some aps on my Ipod touch.
> I double tap and hold my finger on the Icon to be moved and hear the three
> tones.
> By sliding my finger slowly Voiceover announces the screen position the ap
> is currently on so i know where to drop i
This is good to know. Thank you very much.
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In a way, I'm sort of becoming an evangelist for VO and orca. It's probably
because I use them a lot and think they are both pretty good and I don't need
to deal with Windows and its many problems. On GNU/Linux I can even try to
help fix bugs that bother me in orca.
OT: A friend of mine and
I agree but I think SA, the no cost online and the low cost free standing
versions, have an edge over NVDA primarily because they have lots of
professional documentation, help files and tutorials. These can go far
especially among seniors new to the whole thing.
cdh
On Dec 10, 2009, at 12:11 P
Hi Graham,
graham wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As the subject line says, the item recently added has disappeared
> from my sources table in Itunes.
>
> How can I get it back?
"Recently Added" is just a smart playlist. I'm not sure why it
disappeared from your sources table, but you can recreate it by us
I can't whole hartedly agree with you on this one. Given the level of
functionality built in to voice over, it would be rediculous to expect
developers to try to compete.
On top of that, there are other factors in accessibility besides a screen
reader. There is your own level of proficiency f
Folks, if you want to argue with a die hard Windows user and try to convince
him or her that the Mac is better, good luck. I challenge anybody to convert a
Windows user to the Mac. Can it be done?
Jess
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Cool really cool!!!
I also use Orca on Linux - although I'm not very familiar with Linux as I'm
only just starting out. I am learning to program in Python, so perhaps one
day I can help out with Orca.
i also use NVDA and JFW on Widnwos as well as System Access and Window Eyes
a little.
On the
Yes, but the problem with SA2GO is that you need an internet conection to
get it to work and I am not sure if it will run on a limited account or in a
public place. You also need an intenret connection to get hold of NVDA if
you've not already got it.
This is why leaving aside for the moment Ap
Jes, it's been done.
I, for one, have purchased and love my MacBook Pro. Since the release of
iPhone, entire new vistas have been opened to us die hard windows users.
(Smile)
Mark
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Sure, just buy them a mac and take away their old PC. I did it to my wife
and it worked. She complained at first but got over it.
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Hi,
What is actually interesting about this approach is that, at least on some web
pages, this is not doable. I've found that to be the case on my Mac, running
10.6.2. It's always been the case for me from the beginning of 10.6.
Regards,
Nic
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Hi,
I was a die hard Windows user, but I am no more. Rejoice, for I have been
speaking to at least five other people about the Mac. Some say it's crap
without having tried one at all which is extremely narrow-minded,a couple of
people wanted me to show them around on the Mac, some wanted me to
On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:49 PM, James & Nash wrote:
> Yes, but the problem with SA2GO is that you need an internet conection to
> get it to work and I am not sure if it will run on a limited account or in a
> public place.
Satogo works on any computer with an internet connection. I use it all the
Really! I haven't tried copying txt from a web page, so maybe that's
why I haven't experienced that.
Donna
On Dec 10, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What is actually interesting about this approach is that, at least
> on some web pages, this is not doable. I've found that
Does somebody know if it is possible to download an mp3 file wih Safari by just
pasting the Mp3's URL in the address bar ? Currently, when I do this, Quicktime
starts playing the file and I can not download it to my hard drive. Thanks for
your help, Claire
> On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Jess wrote:
>
>> Folks, if you want to argue with a die hard Windows user and try to convince
>> him or her that the Mac is better, good luck. I challenge anybody to convert
>> a Windows user to the Mac. Can it be done?
I have been telling everyone I know about th
Well, could you be convinced that a Windows PC is better? I challenge
anyone to change the mind of a die hard Mac user that a Windows machine is
better.
There are just as many people on this list who couldn't be convinced that
Windows is just as good as a Mac. Its not like Windows users are gen
I believe that you need a special microphone for a Mac mini. I tried
several headsets and none of them worked either. You get output but no
input. I also tried a microphone from an old cassette deck and it did work.
The microphone jack is a little longer than that on a headset.
Instead of buy
Nope, just keep moving to the left and you'll hear a slightly different tone
that indicates you have moved to a new page. VoiceOver will speak this fact,
but it can be a little confusing since when I did this it seemed it would
announce a page that previously did not exist. So, what I haven't ch
Funny I did something similar and now I'd end up in divorce court if I tried to
take away her Mac. :) Then again, I probably would end up in a even worse
position if I tried taking her iPHone. :)
On Dec 10, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:
> Sure, just buy them a mac and take away their old
Try using opsion enter to do this. I do that from time to time when I have a
download of a file.
Matthew
On Dec 10, 2009, at 4:20 PM, claire amoroso wrote:
> Does somebody know if it is possible to download an mp3 file wih Safari by
> just pasting the Mp3's URL in the address bar ? Currently
That's a good point John. I've read a lot of Mac stuff over the years - not
on this list, and it seems to me as though Apple fandom and the Mac more
specifically have become religious doctrine for some. Both sides have their
evangelists who trash one side or the other, although I have never hear
Guies, let's get back to voiceover, I don't frankly wanna hear how one
person made their wife bitch about x y and zed, nor would! make 'em do such.
I know yhou're kidding but, come on, I'll admit I got a bit off topic with
the IPhone stuff and IPod stuff, but, that was only cause I didn't know
Totally agree, James.
Chris.
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> That's a good point John. I've read a lot of Mac stuff over the years -
> not
> on this list, and it seems to me as though Apple fandom
Jess, I for one am a recent switcher. I was myself a diehard Windows user and
I thought it would always be that way, but I needed a new computer and Windows
7 was not yet out, Freedom Scientific started doing things that I did not like,
and I joined this list to learn about the Mac as a possibl
Hi
I don't think "convert" is the right idea here. It makes it sound like
a religion, and I don't like religions let alone making one out of
something like a computer. The important thing is for people to know
their options, that they have options, and to try and keep their minds
open. Those who li
Depends on why they were windows users. I used my machines good and long
because it was a matter of economics. the moldy old screen reader I used was
able to do what I wanted, and the world was fine enough. When I fried a power
supply and took the motherboard to the party, I was then in a positi
John,
Amen and very, very well said.
M
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Well, could you
Hello Group:
Here's one who is trying to convert from long-time windows and JAWS
use. I got a Mac Book Pro this past weekend, and am slowly and
patiently plodding through help documents, etc.
Is there a hot key to get the time like insert or JAWS key F12 on
windows? I know that's a silly q
Hello. If you have VoiceOver set to allow apple Script and keyboard commander
enabled, you should be able to hit option+t for the time. You can enable these
through VoiceOver utility.
On Dec 10, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> Hello Group:
>
> Here's one who is trying to convert
I'm righting to see if some one first of all knows of some good studio mixers
that you can conect by USB to a mac. Seckend if some one knows of enny good
Midda controlers or keybords for the mac that work well.
Thanks a lot Mike H. you can also contact me off list at
mikehucka...@me.com
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Hello, Yeah I love it as well. I was a die hard windows user as well but the
mac is so much more stable. And running windows 7 in vmware works really well
too if you ever need it. Its even better then running windows natively because
you can just back up the one file and if somehting goes wrong
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