Don't forget to request your free upgrade to lion, anyone who buys a mac on or
after June 6th is in titled to this, but it has to be requested. Unless you
get a nice store rep.
Kliphton SR
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(Google Voice
Hi Carolyn,
Your post here is also a great resource and another great keeper for me!
Johnny
On 6/8/2011 12:34 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
Hi Joanne:
There are a few different ways you can go when tackling the mac switch. One thing I found really
helpful was to look at the "switching 101" article
Neil!
Thanks so much for this post! This is definitely a keeper! Great help!
I will be getting my new 15" MacBook Pro within the next dcouple of
weeks and I'm excited to say the least!
Johnny
On 6/8/2011 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
Joanne,
for me the podcasts etc do help,
When you interact with the text, use control option shift left and right
arrows, that should move you character by character through the text.
On Jun 8, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Zach,
> Yes, I can interact with text and get word by word, but I can't get character
> by character
>
Weird, Neil. You have words and characters in your web rotor, and we are both
using Snow Leopard. I have those options when not on the web, of course, with
quick nav, but that's not true for the web. Might there be some difference if
your device has a built in track pad? I'm using a Mac Mini; I
Mary,
this might be what Esther was saying about new verses old, all I can say is on
the 15in MacBook Pro we have here and the MacBook Air I use, in the web rotor
characters and words are an option.
you will have to find out from someone else on list, as I have just looked in
the VO connfig ar
se I find the command structure and especially web navigation
>>> totally not intuitive. But these two suggestions have made me want to give
>>> it another try.
>>>
>>> Kim
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups
Hi Mary!
The confusion is in a email you use the left and up arrows or right and up to
change from nav to words or characters, and when you first move to a web page
the rota might still [with the arrows only] give you those options!
But I found as soon as you move to another part of the page, the
Hi Mary,
In that case you can use the normal VO character-by-character movement
commands, vo-shift-left and right arrows, I believe. I suppose the rotor
should sense you're not interested in the whole webpage but only a specific
area of it, but it doesn't always seem to. I tend to use group mo
Hi Zach,
Yes, I can interact with text and get word by word, but I can't get character
by character
Mary Otten
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Hi Mary,
In this case you want to interact with the text itself. This will let you read
by characters or words, while restricting your attention to the specific
element you're focused on.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> I really agree about quicknav, excep
I really agree about quicknav, except with web rotor on my Mac, I don't get the
choice of words or characters, and I double checked in the web rotor setting in
the vo utility. those choices are not in the menu of items for the rotor. How
do you get words or characters included in the rotor?
Ma
om a new user. On Jun 8, 2011, at
>>> 12:50 PM, Kimberly wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is truly an incredibly helpful post.
>>>>
>>>> I've had my Mac for several months but haven't made the switch from Jaws
>>>> and
>>>
eral months but haven't made the switch from Jaws and
>>> the pc because I find the command structure and especially web navigation
>>> totally not intuitive. But these two suggestions have made me want to give
>>> it another try.
>>>
>>> Kim
>
de me want to give
>> it another try.
>>
>> Kim
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:16 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegro
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:16 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: transition from pc to mac
>
>
> This was a marvelously helpful message. I read nothin
hese two suggestions have made me want to give
>> it another try.
>>
>> Kim
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08,
two suggestions have made me want to give
> it another try.
>
> Kim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:16 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegrou
riginal Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: transition from pc to mac
This was a marvelously helpful message. I read nothing about either
Colin,
don't forget if you are using quicknav, up and down arrow keys together is the
same as control, options space.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather
TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS rel
Shannon,
I tried to make the switch to Mac three times over, and failed, always
resulting in me sending back my Mac within the 14 days.
When I discovered QuickNav and the Item Chooser it finally made the cross over
to the Mac world so much more easier and intuitive.
Why these aspects of the Ma
gt; [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:16 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: transition from pc to mac
>
>
> This was a marvelously helpful message. I read nothing about either of these
> fea
try.
Kim
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: transition from pc to mac
This was a marvelously helpful message. I read not
Hi there!
You can also open the quick nav menu with vo+u then arrow through headers links
and the others!
And then like the item chooser you can narrow down the options by typing the
first few letters!
Handy if there is 1380 links!
Or the header or others, when you found the item you want just vo
This was a marvelously helpful message. I read nothing about either of these
features in the voiceover quickstart, and no one has suggested them. Thank you
so, so much for making me aware of them. I think this will make the Mac and I
better friends in a much more timely manner. (Smile)
Shannon
I think I have got the navigation thing down, but transitioing from outlook, to
apple mail is my biggest issue. So if anyone has the tricks and tips on how to
get around apple mail on the mac, please let me know. You can email me off
list since I know people here want us to search archives and
Joanne,
I'm in the absolute same boat. I was a windows user forever, and my machine is
now in the process of dying. So, I bought a Mac. I'm finding it quite
overwhelming. I keep tweeting all these questions to Mac users that I know, and
I do feel quite stupid at times. So, I, too, shall be grat
Hi Joanne:
There are a few different ways you can go when tackling the mac switch. One
thing I found really helpful was to look at the "switching 101" articles on the
Mac. While they don't specifically address voiceover, they clarify some of the
similarities and differences between PC and Mac.
I'd go here:
www.blindcooltech.com
and while there, I'd look for all the files called "Mac Demo". That's how I
got my head around it. Thanks Mike.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretj
Hi,
I think you will be disappointed. There is no quick fix to learning a new
operating system and screen reader. The only way to learn it is to use it.
The more you use it the faster you learn. Sure, there are many tips, tricks,
and work arounds but, they won't mean much without understand
Joanne,
for me the podcasts etc do help, but by far the biggest thing that very few
people seem to throw up as the most obviously easy way into Mac usage is to use
QuickNav.
let me explain, there are a number of ways to use a Mac, unlike with a PC,
where you can really only use the qwerty keyb
Hi,
The best suggestion I can give new Mac users, which I suppose I still am
myself, is to jump in with both feet. Use the machine as much as you can, for
different tasks. I went in cold turkey, have only booted my Linux laptop a
handful of times since getting this MBP about six months ago.
: transition from pc to mac
hi there,
i'm Joanne, from Australia whom currently on total transit from PC to
Mac. however, i found that the commands and learning the back takes me
too long, and i'm not really sure where to start.
it sounds stupid i know but, may i ask, is there any tips or ways for
I second that!
Sent from Minister Miller's IPhone
On Jun 8, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:
> hi there,
>
> i'm Joanne, from Australia whom currently on total transit from PC to
> Mac. however, i found that the commands and learning the back takes me
> too long, and i'm not really sure wh
l the best!
Isaac
- Original Message -
From: "Joanne Chua"
To: "macvisionaries"
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:58 AM
Subject: transition from pc to mac
hi there,
i'm Joanne, from Australia whom currently on total transit from PC to
Mac. however, i found that
hi there,
i'm Joanne, from Australia whom currently on total transit from PC to
Mac. however, i found that the commands and learning the back takes me
too long, and i'm not really sure where to start.
it sounds stupid i know but, may i ask, is there any tips or ways for
me to fast track my learnin
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