Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Strange, I have not experienced this with either my Catalina system or my public beta system with Safari 15. I wonder if it is the sites, or the computer. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Sep 28, 2021, at 20:59, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I'm having the same issue but it really

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-28 Thread Mike Arrigo
I'm having the same issue but it really started for me when upgrading to safari 15, I find myself using Chrome and Firefox more and more now. > On Sep 26, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > > Hi Andrew, > I haven’t updated yet but heard from a number of blind users of this issue. > So i

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-27 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
lFirefox 91 or newer works great on my 5 year old MBA. Have a great time trying it out! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > > And if you use an M1 Mac try Fire Fox. Not sure whether Fire Fox works on > Intell too but it works defnitly on M1 Macs. > All

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-27 Thread Tibor Niesner
Hi, did you try delete cookies from Safari settings, secure and privacy?? You will be signed out from all services on the internet, where you are signed in. Best regard Tibor Niesner > 26. 9. 2021 v 18:11, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > Since upgrading to the most rece

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-27 Thread Jürgen Fleger
And if you use an M1 Mac try Fire Fox. Not sure whether Fire Fox works on Intell too but it works defnitly on M1 Macs. All the best Jürgen > Am 27.09.2021 um 17:20 schrieb 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > It seems to be an issue with the VoiceOver buffer filling up. The Quick

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-27 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, It seems to be an issue with the VoiceOver buffer filling up. The Quickest way I’ve found to work around it is to turn VOiceOver off, wait a few seconds then turn it back on. Things run smoothly after that for a while. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning S

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Oh yes I have this issue with Safari. Not sure what to do about that. Its a bit annoying though. /A > 26 sep. 2021 kl. 18:11 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > Since upgrading to the most recent 11.6 on my macbook pro late 2014, Safari > has become sluggish. I’ve c

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-26 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Andrew, I haven’t updated yet but heard from a number of blind users of this issue. So it seems to be an issue of this update. All the best Jürgen > Am 26.09.2021 um 18:11 schrieb 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > Since upgrading to the most recent 11.6 on my macbook pro

Re: Safari Busy

2021-08-14 Thread Nebojsa Tasic
Can Big Sur be run on Air 2013? On 14.8.2021. 01:07, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote: On 13/8/21 6:41 pm, Brandon Olivares wrote: Does anyone else have this issue? I’m on Big Sur. I haven't had the issue at all on Big Sur. I'm running it on a late 2013 MacBook Pro - one of the oldest ma

Re: Safari Busy

2021-08-13 Thread Dave Carlson
Try doing a refresh. Only thing I’ve found to help. Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote: Hi, Safari has been freezing a lot. Often when I just open a new window, it’s hard to navigate anywhere because Safari kee

Re: Safari Busy

2021-08-13 Thread Brandon Olivares
Odd. How many tabs do you have open? I have a lot of tabs open at any given time, so maybe it’s that? Though I have 16 GB of RAM so I wouldn’t think it’s that. > On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:07 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > On 13/8/21 6:41 pm, Brandon Olivares wrote: > > Does

Re: Safari Busy

2021-08-13 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
On 13/8/21 6:41 pm, Brandon Olivares wrote: Does anyone else have this issue? I’m on Big Sur. I haven't had the issue at all on Big Sur. I'm running it on a late 2013 MacBook Pro - one of the oldest machines that supports this release. I don't know why it's running into performance issues for

Re: Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-26 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi, I’m using a MacBook Air 2020. I’ll download 11.3 and see if that makes a difference. Thanks, Traci > On Apr 25, 2021, at 1:00 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > I had no issues on Big Sur 11.3. Not sure if this is fully out to the public > though. > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan

Re: Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-25 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I had no issues on Big Sur 11.3. Not sure if this is fully out to the public though. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Apr 25, 2021, at 10:39, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Hi all, I’m trying, or at least trying to try instacart for the first time. > I’ve gotten as far as going to

Re: Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-25 Thread Herbie Allen
I just gave it a try on my end with no problems. I am using a 2019 Mac though and that could be a factor if you are using an older Mac. Make sure you click on the actual Lins That being said, I do agree with Brad that the iOS app will be a much better experience. If you are an Android user that

Re: Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-25 Thread Brad Snyder
Have you tried using the iOS app on an iPhone or iPad? I usually find that a dedicated app is much simpler then trying to navigate a webpage with a browser. - Brad - On Apr 25, 2021, at 09:39, Traci Duncan wrote: Hi all, I’m trying, or at least trying to try instacart for the first time. I’v

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-05 Thread 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries
That is in the Safari preferences under the advanced tab. Kristeen On Nov 5, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: I'm looking for the checkbox for "press tab to highlight each item". is that in the vo utility and if so, where? thanks. Lorie > On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:32 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' vi

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
I'm looking for the checkbox for "press tab to highlight each item". is that in the vo utility and if so, where? thanks. Lorie > On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:32 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I went to this site as well and am not experiencing the "Safari busy". > Some

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Dave Carlson
Yes, it means they are already hidden. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel th

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Why don't you see for yourself? Simple enough. Try it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/4/2019 5:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: I looked in the view menu and is says "show" all those things that y

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
I looked in the view menu and is says "show" all those things that you mentioned. does this mean they're already hidden? it doesn't give me an option to hide anything. > On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Wondering if you are suffering from what I experienced. I hid my bookmar

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, The switch between Dom and Group Mode is done in the VO Utility. I've set a keyboard commander command for it similar to the option-t for telling you the time. To set the keyboard commander shortcut, go into the VO Utility, select Commanders from the Categories table, select the Keyboard

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
Tim, do you set this stuff in Safari or vo? thanks. > On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:32 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I went to this site as well and am not experiencing the "Safari busy". > Sometimes, when VO is set to Grouping mode for browsing, you will notice a > la

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I went to this site as well and am not experiencing the "Safari busy". Sometimes, when VO is set to Grouping mode for browsing, you will notice a lag as VO fills the buffer for certain groups. A couple of things one can try here is to change to DOM mode on that site, or to tab through ele

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Yes i understand your frustration too. But i don’t think apple has made regressions of mac and accessibility. Though i have had similar issues too. I think you can turn off some things in both VoiceOver and Safari to make it easier for VO to handle the page. I am quite not sure about what to t

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread John Panarese
What OS are you running? Does this happen on all sites? If so, you might want to reset Safari settings or, if you feel up to it, with Safari closed, delete your saved application state for Safari and the PLIST and restart the app. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel,

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Dave Carlson
Wondering if you are suffering from what I experienced. I hid my bookmarks, reading list, toolbar, status bar, tab bar, and anything else I could think of in the View menu of Safari. My “Safari Busy” went away and life is good again. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer,

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries
Interesting you should mention that site. I have trouble with it all the time in the same way. Other things work fine. I have wondered if it is specific to that page, but can't figure out why it is happening. Kristeen On Nov 2, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: Hi all, I am hearing "S

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
need to buy a pc as you just need bootcamp which is built in to > your mac. > -Original Message- > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Sunday, 3 November 2019 8:07 AM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: Safari busy way too

RE: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-03 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Andrew You don't need to buy a pc as you just need bootcamp which is built in to your mac. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Sunday, 3 November 2019 8:07 AM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Safari busy way to

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Lorie, Try going to Safari preferences and reduce the number of "top sites shows" to 6 This seemed to clear up that busy thing after I installed Mojave on my MBA. It sounds a bit strange but It worked for me! HTH Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe" "Albert Einstein’ On Nov 2, 2019

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread Eric Brinkman
If I can't reliably use the machine to browse the web, then it's not going to suit my needs. These issues do not occur with Jaws or, to my knowledge, with NVDA. Apple has shifted most of its development away from the Mac, and, ever since the iPhone 5 Maps debacle, they have just been rushing out

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
I have this problem too. sometimes it just quits talking and makes this buzzing sound as if it's completely overloaded. I'm not running catalina yet. a work around I have found is to turn vo off, wait for a few seconds and turn it back on again. sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. >

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hi Eric, I understand your frustration. I have similar problems on a website that has a lot of material and possibly graphics/pictures. I’m also now irritated about certain bugs which Apple has failed to fix although I’ve been reporting them for over 4 years. Getting a Pc has also crossed my

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-18 Thread Anouk Radix
I downloaded cleanmymac 3 and have run its scan. Hopefully it will help. Indeed it does not seem to occur with all websites but with some it does and it is consistent. I will have to monitor with which ones specifically and once I find out i will mail apple accessebility. Greetings, Anouk, > On

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-18 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi Emrah, in the past i tried repairing disk permissions and that seemed to help at the time but that does not seem to fix anything for me under the current os version. Greetings, Anouk, > On 17 Jan 2018, at 19:58, Emrah wrote: > > Anouk, > Good point with Mail. I was thinking about mentioning

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Marshall Scott
> Marshall > Hi, Folks, I hope you are reporting this issue to Apple Accessibility. I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago and after spending some time on the phone with them, the Apple person was able to reproduce the problem. Something in the website (Audible) was using up 100 perc

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Emrah, I half to do this periodically with my Avid Pro tools box. It definitely clears "VoiceOver's" throat! ;) Talk soon Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe" "Albert Einstein’ On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Emrah wrote: > Chuck, > I just went ahead and executed on your instructions

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Emrah
Chuck, I just went ahead and executed on your instructions. I don't know if it's just a placebo effect, but I'm already feeling some improvement without rebooting. Haven't done much yet, but if this really has solved my major issues, I'll be so very grateful to you. Seriously, it's a life-savor

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
VoiceOver definitely does multithreading. There appear to be separate threads for each active window plus a few. I can't remember now but I believe that most MAcOS programs can dynamically adjust their threads based on needs. One other neat feature is that if an Application is full screen, the OS

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Emrah, Heres an apple tech tip on how to clear sluggish VO movement by deleting the Caches folder. This helps minimize the "busy" issue for me. :) Basic steps below; To empty out the Caches folder on your computer, you’ll need to open up Finder first. With Voiceover on, you can press V O D

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Emrah
Anouk, Good point with Mail. I was thinking about mentioning it as I was trying to get to this thread of conversation with my busy busy mail App, and then saw your message. Indeed, Mail is also a pain. I'm running the latest updates, but have not tried using a different account. What I did thoug

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Anouk Radix
I am using the newest version of os x and it is fully updated. > On 17 Jan 2018, at 16:02, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of the > OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when creating a > temporary account or usin

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of the OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when creating a temporary account or using the "guest" account on the system. This is a good way to see if the slowdowns are a system issue or a configuration issue.

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi, I have the seem problem with my 2013 macbook air with core i7 and 8gb of ram. Safari is constantly busy as is often mail. I have no such problems on ios but os x with voiceover is REALLY sluggish. And while braille is better then in the last release its still worse then what it used to be. Gr

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Yes this is a big issue for me too. I don’t know where to send support for chrome either. /A > 23 juni 2017 kl. 15:56 skrev Mike Arrigo : > > For me, when I type in any text field, assuming keyboard echo is set to > character in voiceover, the characters are not spoken, and it happens on all

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Sorry for the late answer. I use voiceover. I don’t know anything about how to install chromevox and have never needed to do that but i think i will try it out. /A > 22 juni 2017 kl. 23:34 skrev Mike Arrigo : > > When using chrome, do you use voiceover or chromevox? I find the access with >

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-25 Thread Mike Arrigo
I use the U.K. male voice, the nuance voices are definitely very unresponsive with chromevox. > On Jun 24, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > Interesting. Well, I was using the inhanced version of Tom, (the voice I > always use for VO nowadays). I saw that a number of other google voic

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-24 Thread Ray Foret jr
Interesting. Well, I was using the inhanced version of Tom, (the voice I always use for VO nowadays). I saw that a number of other google voices were available but could only identify Lowis as a US English voice and a couple of UK voices and some others that looked like they were not English.

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
Which voice did you use? With many of the mac voices chromevox is very unresponsive, using one of the google voices works much better. > On Jun 24, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > For my part, I found Chromevox so sluggish while running Voice Over that I > offloaded it from my Mac. I

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Use ctrl-cmd-a-a to toggle ChromeVox on and off. I usually don't have both running simultaneously, but do in some rare cases. I've set CV to have the female Susan voice, and VO to be Alex, so I know which one is talking to me at any given time. You can change the speech rate of CV on the

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-24 Thread Ray Foret jr
For my part, I found Chromevox so sluggish while running Voice Over that I offloaded it from my Mac. It didn’t seem to aknowledge key presses at all. Tried trning VO off and no good. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Can ChromeVox be activated and deactivated on the fly? In the past, there were issues if the two were running simultaneously and one had to off-load VoiceOver to run ChromeVox. Still the case? Andrew > On 23 Jun 2017, at 03:36, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > I use both. Normally, when I go

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, This link should work fine. https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html Note that Chrome, like Safari, has the ability to sync bookmarks and such across devices. If you sign into Chrome as opposed to simply signing in

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Tim, Very cool. Would you happen to have a good link to get Chrome for my mac mini? I ask because I need a safe link because I am going to install it on my Work box and don't want to be guessing did I find the correct download link. Thanks again for all your diligent hard work. :) Chuck On Ju

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Ray Foret jr
Well thanks Tim. you duh man!! I’ll give it a try sometime this weekend. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple T

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Ray Foret jr
Now that is very curious. My keyboard echo is set to words, but wen I type in my e-mail address in to a user name field in Crome, I get character by character spoken just fine. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefo

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Ray, The video you were watching probably was focusing on the use of ChromeVox on a ChromeBook. ChromeBooks are a totally different entity both from Mac and Windows. To finally get to your question though, using ChromeVox on the Mac uses the ctrl and cmd keys much in the same way as you use t

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Mike Arrigo
The chromevox key on a mac is control+command I think. Original message: So Tim, I looked at the video on Cromevox. What I ain’t understandin’ is this here. What key on the Mac keyboard works as the “search” key? I reckon that what they call the alt key is equivalent to the Mac’s option key but

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Mike Arrigo
For me, when I type in any text field, assuming keyboard echo is set to character in voiceover, the characters are not spoken, and it happens on all of my macs. Original message: Now it’s interesting you should mention about the text not being spoken. Whenever I enter my user name in to the use

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Ray Foret jr
So Tim, I looked at the video on Cromevox. What I ain’t understandin’ is this here. What key on the Mac keyboard works as the “search” key? I reckon that what they call the alt key is equivalent to the Mac’s option key but more info would be appreciated. Tell you what, Crome does seem to loa

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I use both. Normally, when I go into Chrome, it's because something isn't working right in Safari, so I use ChromeVox. When in some G Suite features like Docs and Sheets, ChromeVox works better. The Admin Panel within the G Suite is also easier to navigate with ChromeVox, although there

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Ray Foret jr
Now it’s interesting you should mention about the text not being spoken. Whenever I enter my user name in to the user name or user ID fields of the sites in to which I have logged on so far with Crome, the text has always spoken character by character. Now, do you mean they are not spoken whil

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Mike Arrigo
I wonder if firefox will ever be useable on the Mac. They have made it accessible on windows, android and IOS, hopefully they will spend some time on the mac version as well. > On Jun 22, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > I'm glad this came up. I was also still under the impression that Ch

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Mike Arrigo
There is one major issue with using chrome and voiceover, when typing in text fields, the characters you type do not speak and the deleted character is not spoken when pressing backspace. The other current issue that I know of is that elements that are clickable but are not actually links are no

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Alex Hall
I'm glad this came up. I was also still under the impression that Chrome required ChromeVox to be at all usable, and I resented Google making me learn yet another screen reader just to use their browser. I'm happy to know I'm wrong about this, and I'll give Chrome another look. It will be intere

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Ray Foret jr
Actually, growing quickly to love Google crome now!!! It’s already my default browser and I’ve imported all my Safari bookmarks. I haven’t bothered to load Cromevox because as yet, I see no need for it. Should I? Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind buil

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Its good to have both browsers. For example i don’t like youtube in safari but on chrome its always a hit. /A > 21 juni 2017 kl. 22:35 skrev Tim Kilburn : > > Hi, > > Actually, Chrome works very well on a Mac. It handles Google Apps services > slightly better than Safari does. It works wel

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Mike Arrigo
When using chrome, do you use voiceover or chromevox? I find the access with voiceover similar in both browsers, but there are times when chromevox will allow access to a site that voiceover has a problem with. > On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > That’s pretty much my use c

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I have it here but am not sure who recommended it. It is accessible but why don’t you like chrome? /A > 21 juni 2017 kl. 22:19 skrev Ray Foret jr : > > I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called Lightning > Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? > > > Sent from my Mac,

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Ray Foret jr
Say, liking Crome so far. Have you gotten stuff like Rumola to work using Crome? Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Scott Granados
Ray, Google has put a lot of work in to accessibility across the board. Worth a second look if you have the time. > On Jun 21, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > It is just that from what I heard, it was impossible to use with Voice Over > so you had to download a special google voice

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Scott Granados
That’s pretty much my use case as well. If Safari chokes on a site chrome usually gets it done and vise versa. Also, there are times when things on safari aren’t accessible but more controls and features are available on chrome. On the windows side I used to use Firefox as well as a third op

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Yes, there is a screen reader available within Chrome as well. It's called ChromeVox and is also useful when browsing. It's improved a lot since its inception, but I still prefer VO when on the Mac. Later Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 21, 2017, at 14:48, Ray Foret jr

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Ray Foret jr
Well, I reckon I’ll have to revisit my assumptions them. Thanks. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Ray Foret jr
It is just that from what I heard, it was impossible to use with Voice Over so you had to download a special google voice package for it or something. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happ

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Actually, Chrome works very well on a Mac. It handles Google Apps services slightly better than Safari does. It works well with VO, as in things like the Item Chooser and other web-router items work fairly well in it. I swap back and forth between the two quite often when certain sites a

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Mary Otten
It's an android browser, and not relevant if you're using a Mac. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called Lightning > Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? > > > Sent from my Mac, The On

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Scott Granados
What’s wrong with google chrome out of curiosity? > On Jun 21, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called Lightning > Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? > > > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for th

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Ray Foret jr
I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called Lightning Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Scott Granados
+1 to chrome here. > On Jun 21, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Have you tried with lightning webbrowser or google chrome? > /A >> 21 juni 2017 kl. 16:48 skrev Ray Foret jr > >: >> >> Well, one thing’s for sure. You can forget >> www.walmart.c

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Have you tried with lightning webbrowser or google chrome? /A > 21 juni 2017 kl. 16:48 skrev Ray Foret jr : > > Well, one thing’s for sure. You can forget > www.walmart.com > > With the Mac, the site is totally impossible to log in to. You get stuck and > cannot

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I occasionally get this type of error though usually in the web composing area of twitter or Facebook where there is text input and a completion list. This is less likely to occur if you don't have mouse follow VoiceOver enabled and even less likely if you disable tracking altogether on these sit

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, This sort of thing usually happens either with a large amount of content, or if there are a lot of live regions that are constantly refreshing themselves. I don't believe that it is a Safari problem, more of a VO buffer loading concern, but that's just my thoughts. A couple of tricks that

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Ray Foret jr
Well, one thing’s for sure. You can forget www.walmart.com With the Mac, the site is totally impossible to log in to. You get stuck and cannot go anywhere. You actually have to force quit Safari to be able to do anything with it at all afterward. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with ful

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Thanks for the explanation, Alex. I've obviously never done this, but it's very good info to have. Cheers, Donna > On Jun 21, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Sorry if my message wasn't clear. Pressing cmd-option-shift-ctrl-period is > how you take a diagnostic snapshot on the Mac. After

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Alex Hall
Sorry if my message wasn't clear. Pressing cmd-option-shift-ctrl-period is how you take a diagnostic snapshot on the Mac. After anywhere from two to five minutes, Finder opens with focus on the compressed file, which is still very large. You then send this file, along with a description of the p

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Alex, What is that CMD-Option-CTRL-period? I've tried pressing it and it does nothing. Cheers, Donna > On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > I use Safari. On rare occasions I'll get busy messages that make a page hard > to use, but it's uncommon enough that I don't really worry ab

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Alex Hall
I use Safari. On rare occasions I'll get busy messages that make a page hard to use, but it's uncommon enough that I don't really worry about it. That said, I've heard plenty of people say they experience what you do. I have no idea why this happens to some and not others. All I can suggest is t

Re: Safari busy.

2011-08-15 Thread carlene knight
When I'm experiencing this, My sighted husband tells me that sometimes the Voiceover cursor gets stuck in a bblank space, or tries to focus where there's nothing. Since getting more memory and upgrading to Lion, I've had this problem less. On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

Re: Safari busy.

2011-08-15 Thread Christine Grassman
The only sometimes solution I have found to this very annoying problem is shutting off VO for about half a minute, then putting it back on. About 75 to 80 percent of the time, it works. I also get "finder busy" and "mail busy" announcements, though not as frequently as Safari. It's the most ma

Re: safari busy, busy, busy

2010-03-23 Thread mani
in order to have 8 gigs of ram. > > Half the reason I wanted to get into the Mac world was that OSX is supposed > > to use memory  more efficiently. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bryan Smart" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:1

Re: safari busy, busy, busy

2010-03-22 Thread carlene knight
It's baffling that some have this problem and some don't. I have a MacMini with a monitor running SL with only 2 gigs of RAM and seldom experience this problem. Have you guys gotten the new Safari update that came out about a week ago? If not, maybe it will help. On Mar 13, 2010, at 4:56 PM,

Re: safari busy

2010-03-16 Thread Chris Blouch
I run click to flash to remove flash from the pages I surf to. Speeds things up quite a bit. You can still activate a piece of flash if you want to. http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/ CB Sarah Alawami wrote: actually theer is a point to that. I have had flash crash on windows and ther

Re: safari busy, busy, busy

2010-03-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
ue. I'll post their response if I get one. > > Carolyn > - Original Message - > From: Kimberly thurman > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: safari busy, busy, busy > > I must say that I had troub

Re: safari busy, busy, busy

2010-03-15 Thread Ricardo Walker
er "busy". > > Bryan > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:07 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: safar

RE: safari busy, busy, busy

2010-03-15 Thread Bryan Smart
Monday, March 15, 2010 11:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: safari busy, busy, busy Kim: I did write to accessibility at apple to see if they have any thoughts on the repetition issue. I'll post their response if I get one. Carolyn - Original Message -

RE: safari busy, busy, busy

2010-03-15 Thread Bryan Smart
:02 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: safari busy, busy, busy But I think ZI'd have to have a Mac Book Pro in order to have 8 gigs of ram. Half the reason I wanted to get into the Mac world was that OSX is supposed to use memory more efficiently. - Original Me

Re: safari busy, busy, busy

2010-03-15 Thread Søren Jensen
yan Smart > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:30 PM > Subject: RE: safari busy, busy, busy > > I bet you have a Mac Mini without a monitor. > > Bryan > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com[mailto:mac

Re: safari busy, busy, busy

2010-03-15 Thread Carolyn
bject: Re: safari busy, busy, busy I must say that I had trouble with the busy thing yesterday when I set up Genius in ITunes. I suppose this must be a very memory-intensive process, as it bogged my computer down for several minutes and I got the busy message intermittently during this whole

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