Beyond helping to reduce the freeze ups when possible, I really hope that Apple 
will make it possible to slow down the repetition of the busy message. When VO 
says "busy busy busy busy" right back-to-back, it feels something like 
annoying. I know the program is busy. I'd be satisfied if it just reminded me 
once every 5 seconds, particularly since it will say "ready" when the program 
is no longer "busy".

Bryan


-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: safari busy, busy, busy

Kim:
I did write to accessibility at apple to see if they have any thoughts on the 
repetition issue.  I'll post their response if I get one.
 
Carolyn

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Kimberly thurman <mailto:kimthur...@insightbb.com>  
        To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
        Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:12 PM
        Subject: Re: safari busy, busy, busy

        I must say that I had trouble with the busy thing yesterday when I set 
up Genius in ITunes.  I suppose this must be a very memory-intensive process, 
as it bogged my computer down for several minutes and I got the busy message 
intermittently during this whole time.  
        On Mar 14, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
        
        > it does except for
        > 1. when safary decides to hickup and
        > 
        > 2, you try and mark 4000 messages as read at once. don't do that. lol.
        > On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Rich Ring wrote:
        > 
        >> But I think ZI'd have to have a Mac Book Pro in order to have 8 gigs 
of ram.
        >> Half the reason I wanted to get into the Mac world was that OSX is 
supposed 
        >> to use memory  more efficiently.
        >> ----- Original Message ----- 
        >> From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansm...@bryansmart.com>
        >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
        >> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:17 PM
        >> Subject: RE: safari busy, busy, busy
        >> 
        >> 
        >> That's true as long as you're only running desktop apps.
        >> 
        >> If you're using virtual machines, for example, 8GB will be better. A 
Windows 
        >> 7 VM needs 3GB of memory to run with maximum performance, for 
example, and, 
        >> with 4GB, that wouldn't leave you much for OSX. You can always run 
your 
        >> virtual machines with less memory, and start fewer apps in them, but 
you'll 
        >> hurt performance.
        >> 
        >> 8GB is only about $350 right now in the US. It isn't that serious of 
a 
        >> purchase if you do serious computing.
        >> 
        >> Bryan
        >> 
        >> -----Original Message-----
        >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
        >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
        >> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:57 PM
        >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
        >> Subject: Re: safari busy, busy, busy
        >> 
        >> Four gigs is more than sufficient and any additional benefits from 
        >> installing more ram will not justify the expense of the ram.
        >> I have four gigs and I run a lot of stuff at once with no noticeable 
hit on 
        >> performance.
        >> 
        >> On Mar 13, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
        >> 
        >>> Happens to me a lot and I'm using a 13 inch Macbook Pro.  It only 
has    2 
        >>> gigs of ram and I'm thinking that is causing some of my problems.  
I get 
        >>> the busy stuff when I have multiple aps open.
        >>> 
        >>> This leads me to a question of my own.  I see  that it is possible 
to 
        >>> upgrade ram.  My husband could do this for me, but how much ram is 
enough? 
        >>> I read that I could put up to 8 gigs of ram in this thing.  Is that 
over 
        >>> kill?  Would 4 gigs be enough?
        >>> 
        >>> Thanks in advance.
        >>> 
        >>> Kim
        >>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
        >>> 
        >>>> I bet you have a Mac Mini without a monitor.
        >>>> 
        >>>> Bryan
        >>>> 
        >>>> -----Original Message-----
        >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
        >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
        >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:31 PM
        >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
        >>>> Subject: safari busy, busy, busy
        >>>> 
        >>>> Hi:
        >>>> I suppose this has already come up on list, but I'm wondering if 
others 
        >>>> are frustrated by VO continuously getting stuck on and repeating 
"busy," 
        >>>> Is there a way to stop that from happening?  And Would this be 
considered 
        >>>> a bug to report to Apple.  Sorry if this is old to some of you, 
but it's 
        >>>> new to me as I use the Mac more.
        >>>> TIA
        >>>> 
        >>>> Carolyn :)ch
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