o try different things. This being said different
> strokes for different folks! Just my thoughts.
>
>
>
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplum...@tds.net
>
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gilland
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It's pointless!
Actually yeah I did remove your address
Chris, how o
Actually yeah I did remove your address
Chris, how odd is that!
- Original Message -
From: "Joe Plummer"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: It's pointless!
> Hi, glad you got signed up. I think it worked because I got the email
> wanting
.
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gilland
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It's pointless!
Hi Joe.
#x27;t the address I
wanted really to use, but what'm I gonna do being the other link didn't
work. Smile.
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From: "Joe Plummer"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:11 AM
Subject: RE: It's pointless!
> Hi, below is a link to a list dedicat
o return to what you were
doing, hit escape.
HTH.
Chris.
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From: "Kimberly thurman"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: It's pointless!
> Hello Group:
>
> Here's one who is trying to convert from long-time w
This rant and any follow up should be referred to the BS mailing list as it is
way, way off topic.To join the BS list, send an email to:
vo-bs-requ...@lists.hofstader.com with the word "subscribe" in the subject
line. "
To those of us who feel that screen readers will always provide second cla
not really. i have done this once and it worked.
On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Jess wrote:
> Folks, if you want to argue with a die hard Windows user and try to convince
> him or her that the Mac is better, good luck. I challenge anybody to convert
> a Windows user to the Mac. Can it be done?
>
Right you are Nick. The nature of adaptive technologies is prosthetic.
Regardless of our choices, it is not a completely 100% fit. When choosing an
operating system, your work environment, you have to decidewhat kind of chafing
you can live with. I've decided mac for my own reasons. Not only doe
Hi,
Also, just to point this out, allow AppleScript seems to be an unnecessary
step, as it will just use your system speech preferences instead when speaking
the time. Of course,these will not always be the preferred settings, but at
least you have the choice.
Regards,
Nic
Skype: Kvalme
MSN M
://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It&#
Hi,
Technically, this is called Macvisionaries. Which would seem to me as if this
is a Mac list where visually impaired people can discuss things about the Mac,
not necessarily VoiceOver.
Furthermore, the manual probably provides information on what you've already
asked where the iPhone is co
: It's pointless!
Jess, I for one am a recent switcher. I was myself a diehard Windows user
and I thought it would always be that way, but I needed a new computer and
Windows 7 was not yet out, Freedom Scientific started doing things that I
did not like, and I joined this list to learn about th
sionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: It's pointless!
John,
Amen and very, very well said.
M
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You said a mouth full. Totally agree.
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplum...@tds.net
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jake
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:31 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: It's poin
Hello, Yeah I love it as well. I was a die hard windows user as well but the
mac is so much more stable. And running windows 7 in vmware works really well
too if you ever need it. Its even better then running windows natively because
you can just back up the one file and if somehting goes wrong
Hello. If you have VoiceOver set to allow apple Script and keyboard commander
enabled, you should be able to hit option+t for the time. You can enable these
through VoiceOver utility.
On Dec 10, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> Hello Group:
>
> Here's one who is trying to convert
Hello Group:
Here's one who is trying to convert from long-time windows and JAWS
use. I got a Mac Book Pro this past weekend, and am slowly and
patiently plodding through help documents, etc.
Is there a hot key to get the time like insert or JAWS key F12 on
windows? I know that's a silly q
John,
Amen and very, very well said.
M
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John G. Heim
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It's pointless!
Well, coul
Depends on why they were windows users. I used my machines good and long
because it was a matter of economics. the moldy old screen reader I used was
able to do what I wanted, and the world was fine enough. When I fried a power
supply and took the motherboard to the party, I was then in a positi
Hi
I don't think "convert" is the right idea here. It makes it sound like
a religion, and I don't like religions let alone making one out of
something like a computer. The important thing is for people to know
their options, that they have options, and to try and keep their minds
open. Those who li
Jess, I for one am a recent switcher. I was myself a diehard Windows user and
I thought it would always be that way, but I needed a new computer and Windows
7 was not yet out, Freedom Scientific started doing things that I did not like,
and I joined this list to learn about the Mac as a possibl
Totally agree, James.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: "James & Nash"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: It's pointless!
> That's a good point John. I've read a lot of Mac stuff over the years -
> not
> on this li
Guies, let's get back to voiceover, I don't frankly wanna hear how one
person made their wife bitch about x y and zed, nor would! make 'em do such.
I know yhou're kidding but, come on, I'll admit I got a bit off topic with
the IPhone stuff and IPod stuff, but, that was only cause I didn't know
completely free and open source operating system, despite my
own reservations about Linux not entirely user friendly - especially to the
novice Linux or computer user.
TC
James .
- Original Message -
From: "John G. Heim"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:49 PM
Subject
Funny I did something similar and now I'd end up in divorce court if I tried to
take away her Mac. :) Then again, I probably would end up in a even worse
position if I tried taking her iPHone. :)
On Dec 10, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:
> Sure, just buy them a mac and take away their old
Well, could you be convinced that a Windows PC is better? I challenge
anyone to change the mind of a die hard Mac user that a Windows machine is
better.
There are just as many people on this list who couldn't be convinced that
Windows is just as good as a Mac. Its not like Windows users are gen
> On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Jess wrote:
>
>> Folks, if you want to argue with a die hard Windows user and try to convince
>> him or her that the Mac is better, good luck. I challenge anybody to convert
>> a Windows user to the Mac. Can it be done?
I have been telling everyone I know about th
Hi,
I was a die hard Windows user, but I am no more. Rejoice, for I have been
speaking to at least five other people about the Mac. Some say it's crap
without having tried one at all which is extremely narrow-minded,a couple of
people wanted me to show them around on the Mac, some wanted me to
Sure, just buy them a mac and take away their old PC. I did it to my wife
and it worked. She complained at first but got over it.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jess
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:47 PM
Jes, it's been done.
I, for one, have purchased and love my MacBook Pro. Since the release of
iPhone, entire new vistas have been opened to us die hard windows users.
(Smile)
Mark
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