Re: [Bulk] Re: my own preliminary observations of Lion so far

2011-07-26 Thread Zachary Kline
select text off a > web page in Safari using shift+down, I get a menu instead. > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > Facebook: > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 > >

Re: my own preliminary observations of Lion so far

2011-07-26 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi ray, I can take a stab at some of these questions. 1. Mail attachments work the way they did in SL for me, that is, there is a popup button in the headers group which you can use to select all or individual attachments to be saved. What I do is jump to the message text with vo-j, stop inte

Re: yet another VO feature broken?

2011-07-26 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Kawal, VO says this when you move between conversations with arrow keys or VO-arrow keys. Best, Zack. On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:43 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Does VO say this on its own? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 12:24 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >

Re: yet another VO feature broken?

2011-07-26 Thread Zachary Kline
ok, but again, >>> more cumbersome as you have to open and close each message. What a pain >>> not having that option. Things should get easier, not harder. I'm >>> whining, so I'll shut up, but ur! >>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Donna

Re: yet another VO feature broken?

2011-07-26 Thread Zachary Kline
gt; On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though. >> Best, >> Donna >> >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> THis isn't really a VoiceO

Re: loving Lion so far; but need a reminder or two

2011-07-25 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Ray, The preview pane, as far as I understand it, is the third column of the new layout. The lines you hear read are in the second column, the message list itself, and if you disable that third pane Mail shouldn't mark messages read for you. I may be wrong on this, as the new Mail layout is

Re: Still haven't gotten a clear answer on These Questions.

2011-07-25 Thread Zachary Kline
d wrote: > OK, I'll give that a try. BTW, any idea on my other two questions? > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:02 PM > Subject: Re: Still haven't gotten a clear answer on These Ques

Re: Still haven't gotten a clear answer on These Questions.

2011-07-25 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, The save button is there, if you stop interacting and move left to the headers group, and interact there. You may need to select a button to show more details, but that button definitely exists. I've just confirmed it in the new layout. Best, Zack. On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Christ

Re: Weird issue with connecting olympus recorder into windows with lion

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Matt, Are you running the latest version of Fusion? I've had no similar issues running 3.1.3, but have heard of people having them with 3.1.2. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > good evening all. > I just tried to plug in my olympus dm520 digital recorder into my

Re: safari problem

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, All you can do is close those pages when you're done with them. It's not ideal, but at least it's consistent. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:01 PM, joseph wrote: > hello listers > > i noticed that after installing lion, safari remembers that last page used > after closing it and startin

Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Matt Dierckens wrote: > That's correct and when I hit those keys it doesn't say or do anything. > On 2011-07-24, at 8:23 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi, >> My guess is that you have your keyboard set to use the function keys for >> software functions. You need t

Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, My guess is that you have your keyboard set to use the function keys for software functions. You need to use fn-f5 and f6 in this case. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi, > When i hit f5 and f6 it bonks at me. So not sure why. > On 2011-07-24, a

Re: What is the reading list?

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris and all, On the contrary, I've used the reading list a few times here and it seems to work quite nicely. THe real question is if there will be iCloud integration, which I believe there will. It's an accessible tool, and I can recommend it. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Lynn

Re: Tips about using sendspace?

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
ote: > Hi, > I thought I saw and enabled it and found it not to be too different, but I > will certainly give it another go. > Thanks so much, > Naama > On 25 Jul 2011, at 02:25, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Naama, >> There's an option in the menus for extende

Re: Tips about using sendspace?

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Naama, There's an option in the menus for extended VoiceOver compatibility, I believe it's in the Options menu. This sort of thing isn't to be encouraged, but it's better than no acces at all. I hope this helps a bit, though I haven't used he wizard all that much myself. Best, Zack. On Jul

Re: Absolutely incredibly awesome finding in Safari, Item chooser issue resolved!

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris and All, Maybe I'm missing something, but I always used vo-f in Safari, whether in Snow ELeopard or Lion. It always worked for me as far as I could tell, and I have no idea whether things were visually on screen or not, though it didn't seem so. So I'm surprised this is new? Best, Zac

Re: Move Addict in Lion

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Shawn, Do you really need Move Addict? Lion now natively supports moving files with cmd-option-v, which has always worked for me even with multiple selections. I don't consider Move Addict necessary any more and have removed it. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Re: Lion, Suppressing the Date field.

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Jim, An interesting question. I'm trying to figure out why the obvious answer, check the view menu's message attributes submenu, doesn't seem to work. The choice is dimmed, but it apparently exists. I'll get back to the list if I find out an answer to this one. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011,

Re: Dashcode Crashes on Startup

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Brandon and all, You need to install the newest version of Xcode, which is available either from the mac app store or as a download from the Apple Developer site. I did and my copy of Dashcode works just fine. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > hi, > > Same here.

Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
I should clarify that ctrl-tab will work if your pages are opened in separate tabs in the same window, which might happen more or less frequently depending on your settings. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > That'll work too. > > Chris. > > - Origin

Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Dear Krister, This change impacts everybody, sighted or not. It's an artifact of Lion's resume feature, as has been previously said. The difference with sighted people is that they can click on windows to move between them quickly. We have a few choices for emulating this, including the windo

Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion

2011-07-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, Very odd. cmd-option-q works consistently for me in Safari. As a test, I did a GOogle search and then used the combination. My homepage came back when I reopened the program, not the search results. Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Totally a

Re: Truncating Lines in Terminal

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Austin and All, Yes, I can now confirm seeing this, at least in Emacs. I will write to Apple Accessibility about it and hope they have some notion of how to fix it. Thanks for the clarification, Zack. On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hello, > > Yes I have noticed this:(.

Re: Truncating Lines in Terminal

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
Dear AUstin, Can you provide a concrete example of what happens when a line is truncated? It's easier to understand if I know what you're hearing, so to speak. I haven't noticed much odd in Terminal myself, but I don't use it all that regularly. Best, Zack. On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Austin

Re: For Those WHo Don't Want Window Restoration

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
indows upon startup instead. Hope this > isn't confusing. > > Later… > > On 2011-07-23, at 8:47 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I've read some posts on list from people here who don't really want their >> windows restored to th

Re: For Those WHo Don't Want Window Restoration

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
is broken. > > I've tried it, and it doesn't have any baring. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:47 AM > Subject: For Those WHo Don't Want Window Restoration > >

For Those WHo Don't Want Window Restoration

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi All, I've read some posts on list from people here who don't really want their windows restored to the way they were, particularly in Safari. While I don't know of a way to stop individual apps from acting this way, there is a global preference to do so for all of them. The new General pane

Re: lion question

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Joseph, I'm not sure what's going on here either. In my Input Sources tab the table contains two columns, one for checkboxes and the other for sources. All the languages have labels, starting with Afghan. Best, Zack. On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:21 AM, joseph wrote: > aha, unfortunately, after goi

Re: Disappearing apps?

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Naama, I have no idea what is going on here. My apps always stay open the same way as they did in SL. I can't even begin to speculate on what might be going on, I'm afraid. Can you try and describe the symptoms in more detail, please? What happens when you command-tab for instance? ARe y

Re: VMWare Fusion and Lion

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: > Hi Zack, > > Yeh, I'm using 3.1.2 so that's probably it. Is there a way to update in the > program or do I get 3.1.3 from their website? > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 14:14, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi, >> Are you using FUsi

Re: VMWare Fusion and Lion

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, Are you using FUsion 3.1.3? If so, this is indeed the newest version, and I don't know why your USB drives should be acting up. Mine haven't since the upgrade, and I've used them successfully with both my mac and VM. Best, Zack. On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: > Does

Re: Speaking of Skype

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Donna, In all seriousness, I would recommend upgrading to Skype 5.x. 2.8 is or soon will be obsolete, and the problems can be worked around and aren't as frustrating as some people make them out to be. Unfortunately, I've been using Skype 5 for months, so don't have an answer for you as far

Re: conversations in new mail

2011-07-23 Thread Zachary Kline
o move through the messages when in the >> message content area. also if you set a hot spot on the mailbox list I >> think you can get there a lot quicker. >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi Shameless, >>> A small caveat here.

Re: conversations in new mail

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
to return to the list of inboxes, stop > interacting with the message list, (for me, this requires two presses of VO > shift up arrow), and VO left twice to return to your list of mailboxes. > > I HTH guys > On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi CHris, &

Re: perhaps repairing permitions might help?

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Ray and all, Yes, I highly recommend a permission repair after install. I did so today, and was surprised at just how many errors were caught and fixed. As far as Mail goes, I have had no problems completing recipient addresses the same way I always did in SL. I can't comment on the Item C

Re: conversations in new mail

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi CHris, The area you mention is accessible if you don't expand a conversation, but instead stop interacting and move right. I'm not sure what goes on visually in conversation view, but it occurs to me you might not need to expand them all that often actually. Experimentation is in order. Bes

Activity Examples?

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi All, I'm wondering if anybody here can give some examples of ways they find the new activities feature useful? Coming from SL I'm used to not having them, and so would love to hear from others cases where they're of practical benefit. I'm mostly just curious, though that won't stop me from

Re: battery life under lion

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
running a lot warmer than it ever did under >>> sl. I'm wondering if it's time to call apple >> and/or >>> take my macbook into a store. Obviously, there's some weird stuff going on. >>> If nothing else, maybe they can help me revert >> to

Re: yet another VO feature broken?

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Donna, THis isn't really a VoiceOver feature but a Mail one, and no, it doesn't seem to work under the new layout at least. There is always the official search box in the Mail toolbar, and other ways to find messages which have been improved in Lion. See Mail Help. Best, Zack. On Jul 22, 20

Re: battery life under lion

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
time being. > Missy > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:17 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: battery life under lion >

Re: battery life under lion

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Missy, I'm afraid that I can't confirm this issue either. I have a macbook pro, so perhaps that has a longer battery life. I've ran this on battery several times since upgrading and had no issues to speak of. Best, Zack. On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hello, all! I've ju

Re: one more thing broken in mail?

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Donna, Nope, I can't confirm. It works just fine for me. ONe thought though: have you perhaps accidentally set the program to full screen mode? If you do this there are some known bugs and strange behaviors with multiple windows in applications. I just don't use it and command-accent work

Re: How to sort apps in launchpad?

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Jonathan, Once again, I'm afraid this is problematic as of now. While you can, apparently, sort apps into folders via drag and drop,, accessing those folders seems difficult at best. Apple has been informed Best, Zack. On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Jonathan Chacón wrote: > Hello everybody, >

Re: How to delete spaces in Mission control?

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Jonathan, I don't believe you can as of yet. I've emailed Apple Accessibility about this. Sorry, Zack. On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Jonathan Chacón wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I created some new spaces in Mission Control but I don't know how can I >> delete them using VoiceOver. >> >> thanks and

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Donna, The simple explanation is that Voiceover's trackpad gestures are quite independent of the things sighted people do with the trackpad. We had them long before a lot of sighted people did. VoiceOver completely takes over the pad for its own use when you turn on Trackpad Commander. Ho

Re: Finding the downloads window in Safari

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
ly for instance. Best, Zack. On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Zack, > > Hoping you're right! :) My experience with Lion has been shaky enough that > I'm skeptical, but I'll contain my skepticism for now. :) > Cheers, > Donna > > On Jul 22,

Re: Determining how much space is in my hard drive

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Dear Courtney, There are several ways to tell this sort of information. The way I usually do it is with the Get Info window, cmd-i. You can select your hard drive or whatever folder you want and it will tell you the size among many other things. How did you do it? Best, Zack. On Jul 22, 2011, a

Re: Finding the downloads window in Safari

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Donna, In my experience, the downloads button only appears when there is actually a download in progress. I've found it quite consistent in that case. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > this doesn't work for me. When I Press VO-right arrow,

Re: Help! How to undelete a block of text

2011-07-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Dear Christine, Try hitting cmd-z for undo. If you've avoided doing anything else to your text after deleting it, that should bring it back. Best, Zack. On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:28 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > Could someone please reind me how to undelete a block of deleted text? I > wrote som

Re: Vo not remembering my place in text edit, or scrolling to specific points in documents.

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Kari, This is a case of not interacting with the edit area I believe. If you do that VO will properly track the cursor position. It isn't typically necessary unless you want to do something fancy like reading the entire document, as here. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:12 PM, johns.kary w

Re: Annoyingly sluggish typing

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Howard, I don't notice this, perhaps because I turned off all forms of character echo a long time ago. Typing seems just the same to me as it did under SL. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but I genuinely haven't noticed anything at all different about that part of things. Best, Zack. On Jul

Re: Nuance voices

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
t; iPHone. > > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi, >> I don't know about you, but I don't recall being able to change the pitch of >> these voices under Windows either. SOme voices simply have this limitation, >> such

Re: Nuance voices

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, I don't know about you, but I don't recall being able to change the pitch of these voices under Windows either. SOme voices simply have this limitation, such as the Acapella group's. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Shen wrote: > I hope Apple didn't rush implementing the voices too

Re: New checkbox.

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, I'd think its label would be obvious. It controls whether or not your previously open windows will reopen when you log back in. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:00 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: > There seems to be a new checkbox when restarting or shutting down, don't > understand what it is

Re: help with vmware fusion 3

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Courtney, Either with vo-shift-space or the physical mouse or trackpad. It doesn't matter which in this instance. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > One more question, how do I do a "mouse click"? > Courtney > On Jul 21, 2011

Re: help with vmware fusion 3

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Courtney, The way to do this depends on whether you want your VM running full screen or not. I generally like mine to do so. WHat you want to do is start the VM and click the mouse once, in the apparently empty window, to move focus to the full screen area. After this, you can just cmd-tab

Re: Several Difficulties with New Mail

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Deb, I can take a crack at helping with this. You can edit the SMTP server settings in Mail preferences, in the Accounts pane. You'll need to take the account offline, I think, but after that the process is fairly straight-forward. You can set things up so only a specific server will be us

Fwd: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
pgrade the product. I'll be sure to forward any response I receive. Best, Zack. Begin forwarded message: > From: Zachary Kline > Subject: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues > Date: July 21, 2011 1:58:13 PM PDT > To: Apple Accessibility > > Dear Apple Accessibility, > I have r

Re: Wow, what's up with Lion!

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Missy, I can help with the trackpad commander information at least. I've consistently been told the status whenever I change it, so suggest you might not be doing the gesture correctly somehow. I'll hear the audio cue as well as a verbal notification every time. Otherwise, com.apple.dock.

Re: Spotlight searching in lion?

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, Odd, I can do spotlight searches without any problems on Lion. cmd-space works the same way it always has. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: > Hey all, > just tried to do a spotlight search in lion. I hit cmd space, and it told me > something about spotlight helping

Re: Turning vo on and off in lion problem?

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
it. > On Jul 21, 11:50 am, Zachary Kline wrote: >> Hi, >> Did you try fn-cmd-f5? WHen I first installed Lion I had to re-toggle the >> keyboard preference about using function keys for hardware functions. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Qu

Re: Turning vo on and off in lion problem?

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, Did you try fn-cmd-f5? WHen I first installed Lion I had to re-toggle the keyboard preference about using function keys for hardware functions. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Quinn Haberl wrote: > How do you turn voiceover on and off in lion? I has set vo #2 as a > custom hotkey to

Re: any way to get voiceover to stop saying link all the time now?

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
t for me before but it did for > you. Maybe my macbook is possessed? lol. > Chris Westbrook > > > > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> Am I missing something? I would always rather have VoiceOver tell me where >> a

Re: any way to get voiceover to stop saying link all the time now?

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, Am I missing something? I would always rather have VoiceOver tell me where a link is rather than not. It always did with SL, and I've found the same to be true in Lion. Clarification would be appreciated. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > In safari and

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, THe Dock itself has some improvements in Lion as well, such as the reading of iOS-like badges and access to stacks in other modes than simply via a menu. I highly recommend it. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I'm inclined simply to use the dock instead of th

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
I'm just not getting it. Like I said, I know >> there's a button under there to hid/show your mailbox list, but as for the >> other two check boxes, I'm not quite following what that's supposed to do. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original M

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
tly is this new favorites bar thing supposed to do. I fiddled with > it a bit and I see the check boxes for inbox, and for sent items, but nothing > apparet is seeming to really happen when I check/uncheck these items. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From:

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, I can't speak to iTunes 10.4, seeing as I'm in the iOS 5 beta and thus using 10.5. I noticed sluggishness in the early 10.5 beta which was fixed in a subsequent release, so would expect this to also go away in time on the normal track too. In the meantime, I search for things to narr

Mail Impressions in Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi All, I wanted to give my impressions of the new OS X Mail, which I'm slowly coming to grips with. I've decided to force myself to use it in the new layout, and have actually had some success with it. To begin with, the VoiceOver Getting started guide suggests using it with the VO cursor, and

Re: Am I crazy, or is there now no way to view an attachment in mail?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dona, The Mail app actually has some fairly detailed help on this subject, under the receiving messages section. There are multiple ways to view and save attachments described in there. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > OK, so I have another gripe with the new ma

Re: additional voices?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, You're probably just unaware of which popup we're talking about. THe one we refer to is bethe one where you select your default voice, underneath the "Voice" label in the Speech section. At the bottom of that menu will be a Customize item which you select. In that dialog which will appear

Re: ICloud?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, iCloud is not yet ready for prime time. It will be released in the fall, presumably along with iOS 5. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi. > It will be free accept that it's not out yet. It won't be out until the fall. > > On 2011-07-20, at 7:42 PM, Kliph&S

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
It just seems weird that you have to deal with each > message individually and there is no way to see all messages at once easily. > Just have to get used to the new way of doing things. > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> By defaul

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
witter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > Sent from my IMac > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> I imagine it's a per mailbox setting. I wouldn't know, since I don't use >> mailb

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
other mailboxes they are not. Any idea why? > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > Sent from my IMac > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi, >> There's a favorites

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, By default, conversations are sorted in reverse chronological order, newest message first. You can change this in the View menu I believe. I use left and right arrow to open and close conversations. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > This who

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
hton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > Sent from my IMac > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Unless I'm missing something, by default the mailboxes column is hidden. >> You can restore it and then should be able to tab

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
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Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
>> >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: >> >>> Where do you adjust the conversation or thread view? >>> Kliphton SR >>> (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 >>> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com &

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
it has to do with the size of one's mail file. Do you > have a large mail file? > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:21 PM > To: m

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
m > Sent from my IMac > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi DOnna, >> Very odd. WHen you say "status" are we talking about the same thing? For >> instance, when I view this conversation if it's closed and there are unread >&

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Jeff, I'm not seeing any major performance issues in Mail. It seems to work quite well, as does the whole OS. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote: > Hello, > > People on Twitter are reporting major sluggishness issues in Mail and other > areas. Are others seeing this

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
; Best, >> Zack. >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Just did that. And still no status is spoken. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>> >>>>

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
still no status is spoken. > Best, > Donna > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi DOnna, >> Very odd. WHen you say "status" are we talking about the same thing? For >> instance, when I view this conversation if it's closed a

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
or less identical to the way Mail behaved in SL. THat's in Viewing preferences, if you feel so inclined. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Zack, > > I'm doing the same thing you are. > Best, > Donna > On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Zach

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
ne down to zero as was described earlier. > Basically, I hear all the usual message info except the status information. > Best, > Donna > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi DOnna, >> Can you clarify this a bit? I see unread and read mess

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi DOnna, Can you clarify this a bit? I see unread and read message status just fine, though the status does change because of the way I have my preview pane set up. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > VO has also stopped reading the message status. Anyone else notice

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
u can’t get there via that shortcut. > > > \Tammy > From: Zachary Kline > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:41 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: trying to download lion? > > Hi Chris, > THe installer is put in the Applications folder, but aft

Re: What can I do if Lion install fails?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dona, I'm not sure what is happening in your case. I didn't have an install failure, and in fact the whole process was quite seamless. I'd recommend trying again, after perhaps restoring to a known good backup of 10.6.8 if you have one, just to be sure. All I did when installing was click

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
yone yet been able to figure out where in the heck the app store > actually puts the installer for Lion? What if I wanted to back the installer > up on a dvd? Is the installer not a .app file etc? > > Chris > On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> H

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Mary, Indeed it is. There is an option to use the classic layout, more or less identical to the SL way of doing things. This is in the View tab of Mail preferences. You can use VO to read only subject lines in the same way you do now. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Mary Otten wro

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dona, Yes, this is the what happens. You can monitor the progress of the download via the purchases button in the toolbar. Also, the installer will open automatically when the download finishes. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > So I went to the ap

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
wrote: > The problem was I couldn't find the installer in the Applications folder. > > Doug > > On 2011-07-20, at 1:45 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Doug, >> Sadly, the fact is that you need to copy the installer to another location >> if you want to ma

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Brandon, The voices download from within VoiceOver Utility, on the speech tab. THe way to do this is to find the default voice popup button and select it, then find the customize item and select that. From there, you have a table of checkboxes which you can click to select individual voices

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi SHannon, When I upgraded, my messages were not lost. They are in IMAP folders, so that might have something to do with it, but I doubt it. Apple wouldn't force you to lose messages that way. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Shannon Dyer wrote: > So, are you saying that apple mail wi

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
load the installer again. My mac just restarted for the second > time. It must be installed or close to it. > > Doug > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-07-20, at 1:31 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi, >> It downloads to the Applications folder, and wi

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, It downloads to the Applications folder, and will begin installing once it finishes. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Shen wrote: > Anyone know where it is downloading to? Can't find it anywhere at the moment. > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:03 AM, David Hole wrote: > >> Hi. >> Now I'm

Re: right clicking?

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, You can also do what a sighted person would and hit ctrl while tapping the trackpad or mouse button. I do this occasionally and it seems to work, along with option-clicking, which is sometimes necessary. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jul 19, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote: > Hi, > >

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
t; > Chris. > > On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> When in a table, investigate single and double presses of vo-c and vo-r. >> Those will read you the sorts of information you're requesting, I think. >> THe only really clev

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, When in a table, investigate single and double presses of vo-c and vo-r. Those will read you the sorts of information you're requesting, I think. THe only really clever things I can think of involving tables are for tables in OS X in general. You can use vo-cmd-backslash to move to th

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