Hi Chris,
For your second question, I'm afraid I don't have a definite answer. I  was 
under the impression unchecking a voice would remove it.
As far as the third question, I've always had minor issues with these sorts of 
dialogs, in both versions of OS X I've used.  I generally can get to it if I 
cmd-tab a couple times, and have never needed sighted help to click on 
anything.  I just use vo-space by the way, not clicking with the trackpad or 
mouse pointer. on the Choose File button
Hope this helps a bit,
Zack.
On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> OK, I'll give that a try.  BTW, any idea on my other two questions?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" <zkl...@speedpost.net>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Still haven't gotten a clear answer on These Questions.
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> The save button is there, if you stop interacting and move left to the 
> headers group, and interact there.  You may need to select a button to show 
> more details, but that button definitely exists.  I've just confirmed it in 
> the new layout.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> First of all, in Mail, provided you're *not!* using the classic view, how in 
>> the world do you save file attachments?  The other day I was sent a dmg file 
>> via e-mail, for instance.  I saw the little image thingy and the file name 
>> in the body of the e-mail, but like before, if I tried to stop interacting 
>> with the message text, then vo+left arrow to reach the attachment popup to 
>> go to save all, it obviously wasn't there.  The only way I finally managed 
>> to kind of sort of get it to work, was to interact with the message text, 
>> then down arrow until I heard the image with the attached file name, then 
>> route my mouse with vo+command+F5, then control+click my trackpad.  Then, 
>> vo+down arrow to save attachment, and hit vo+space on that menu option.
>> 
>> Surely! there has got! to be an easier way than this!
>> 
>> Second of my 3 questions:
>> 
>> I've downloaded a few of the Real Speak voices.  In particular, I downloaded 
>> Karen.  I really am not liking her after all.  I went back to the voiceover 
>> utility, into voices, and customize.  I interacted with the voices table, 
>> and unchecked Karen, but all that seemed to do is disable her.  I don't see 
>> that it literally removed her from my system and uninstalled her.  So, how 
>> does one completely remove a voice?
>> 
>> My final question is:
>> 
>> When on a web site, trying to upload a file... once I hit the choose file 
>> button on the page, or browse button, or whatever the website developer 
>> calls it, in the past, it would pop up a new finder window, and from there 
>> no questions asked, I could browse to the file.  Now, I'm finding that half 
>> of the time, I do not land in the finder window to browse for the file. Half 
>> the time if I stop interacting with the html content, bring up the item 
>> chooser, use vo+J and shift J, try to find the finder window with 
>> command+accent grave or vo+F2-F2, or command+Tab, or even vo+F1-F1, Nothing 
>> seems to consistently work.  It's extremely hit and miss, and 90% of the 
>> time, I don't hit the finder window and have to have a sighted person click 
>> me in it.  Once in it, I'm fine, but not until.  So...
>> 
>> If anyone wants to test this, go to
>> 
>> http://www.sendspace.com
>> 
>> Try not with the wizard, but from the actual web site, to upload a file in 
>> Lion with Safari 5.1.  When on the choose file button, do like before and 
>> route your mouse with command+vo+F5, then vo+shift+space.  Then, you'll see 
>> what I mean.  It will be vbery difficult after that to find the finder 
>> window.  I think maybe one time, maybe twice at most! has it come up and 
>> landed me in the focus of the finder like it should, but that was so rare 
>> it's really not worth noting.
>> 
>> Thanks for any tips on these 3 questions.  I'm anxious to hear you all's 
>> tips.
>> 
>> Chris.
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