Hi Missy, I can help with the trackpad commander information at least. I've consistently been told the status whenever I change it, so suggest you might not be doing the gesture correctly somehow. I'll hear the audio cue as well as a verbal notification every time. Otherwise, com.apple.dock.extra is happening for me as well, and is at worst a minor annoyance. It seems to go away on its own and doesn't seem to be doing any harm, whatever it is, though I'm curious as well. I doubt a clean install would matter, and trust a lot of these issues will be cleared up by 10.7.1, which knowing APple will probably be out soon enough. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> Hi! I completely agree with your observations regarding VO at startup. The > boot time is at least 10 seconds longer now, and > VO has yet to say its welcome message. Furthermore, that > "com.apple.dock.extras" thing is already driving me bananas! I > might be brave and attempt a clean install once a podcast is posted to give > detailed instructions, but like you, I wonder if > it would make any difference. I don't have any of the issues you're > describing with mail, and haven't tried to play with > saphari yet, but this start-up stuff really needs to get figured out. > I've also discovered that VO doesn't tell me whether or not trackpad > commander is on. I don't use it much, but like to > practice from time to time, and either I'm not doing the jesture right to > enable it, or something else is going on, but VO > never really says one way or the other what its status is. > As I posted earlier, I'm not necessarily saying I regret updating right away, > but there is that little part of my brain > that's yelling "I told you you should have waited." LOL! > Anyway, it's a learning adventure, that's for sure! > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shen > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:37 PM > To: macvisionaries > Subject: Wow, what's up with Lion! > > OK, here are just a few of my impressions. Most of them come from the > way I use Mac, so a lot of them are personalized and most habitual. So > I am sure there is room for improvements in both Lion and my habits. > > First, has anyone noticed that VoiceOver no longer speaks the welcome > message? Ever? After installing Lion, I have yet to hear VoiceOver > speak the welcome message once. And this is after restarting, or > turning off then on the Mac at least a dozen times. I know this > because half the time, after logging in, VoiceOver is dead silent, it > doesn't say anything. The other h50 percent of the time, it says > "com.apple.dock.extras". > So what is "com.apple.dock.extras"? > Why can't the focus go to the desktop like Snow Leopard used to? OK, > so we can press VO-Shift-D, or command-Tab to go to the desktop. But > why do that when Snow Leopard used to put you right there after > logging in? This seems like such a weird behavior. > > My second observation is that the entire system seems to run a little > slower than it used to. I don't know if this is because I updated Snow > Leopard to Lion. Will my system run more smoothly if I installed Lion > from a clean install? > This is not Windows, this is Mac. Does it really make that much of a > difference? If so, why would Apple make us update instead of providing > a dvd for clean installs? If I were a betting man, I'd bet that even > on a clean install, my system would run more or less about the same. > The other major issue is Mail. > For example, Mail has turned into a waiting game instead of the snappy > fast response it used to be. Now when I press up or down arrow keys to > scroll through the message list, every few times, Mail would say "Mail > busy" and take about 2 seconds before reading me the email message. > This has never happened in Snow Leopard. > > The other issue I have is the download window in Safari. In Snow > Leopard, it used to be that when you click on a link to download > something, a second window pops up and you can immediately see what > you are downloading. Now with Lion, you have to move from the html > content, move to the toolbar, interact with it, find the download > button, click it, then you can see the downoad progress. > This may be better for a visual user. But for a VoiceOver user, it has > gone from a window that pops up automatically, to forcing the user to > navigate to find out the info. > I'm starting to see a trend that things may be accessible, but not > necessarily user friendly. Apple may be good at making sure things are > accessible with VoiceOver, but not necessarily user friendly. > > > > > > > > -- > Shen > goalb...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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