Hi,
Yes, it will be run on the virtual machine on the Mac as well as on a
window laptop itself.
The reason why I brought up this topic is because i'm rather bias
towards the k1000 has been for years. I just want to get some non-bias
opinion on it.
I think the pearl camera is around $1000US or ther
Hi there,
In i'm the market of getting an OCR software. I have experience with
both software in the pass, some versions ago. Just wondering, for
those that may have use both or have experience with both software,
especially the openbook 9 and k1000 14, what is the advantes and
disadvantages of e
Hi all,
I'm recently in need for an ipad pro for mobile one-to-one or a small
group presentations.
I'm looking on the ipad pro 9.7 and the ipad pro 12.9.
For the screen wise, I do prefer the 12.9" screen, however, I do like
the specification for the ipad pro 9.7".
For those that have both ipad
Hi all,
how can I subscribe this group as a daily digest instead of individual emails?
I went to the googlegroups itself, but didn't seems to find it.
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necesarry with music
production, as i have an Olympus ls100 for the job.
Any suggestion and sound samples will be very much appreciated as i need to
order it asap.
many thanks
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Hi all,
I'm in need of doing some field recording for an audio project that i'm involve
in.
However, i'm hoping i can uterlise my iphone6+ as much as i can for this
project.
Just wondering, have anyone come across any external mic and the pro audio
recordin apps that might work?
I'm trying out
d the sport and perhaps the edition itself.
Again, that is my understanding, and that is how she put it to me. It could be
totally wrong, in fact, i think, they have quite a few "unsure" points, as
just learn the product themselves within the last 48 or 72 hours, they are
still pretty
d the sport and perhaps the edition itself.
Again, that is my understanding, and that is how she put it to me. It could be
totally wrong, in fact, i think, they have quite a few "unsure" points, as
just learn the product themselves within the last 48 or 72 hours, they are
still pretty
Hi, you are right, that was what i got told too. And you can add ons with
different straps later.
I too, like how it feel, and indeed, it is one of the lighter, if not similar
weight as a normal ordinary watch.
I'm still considering getting one, if my budget allow.
Joanne Chua
Send fr
What about Libre Office as an option? I heard that Libre office suppose to be
fairly accessible with voiceover.
Personally i use pages, but i'll still use the pc laptop for any complex
formating.
Joanne Chua
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> On 11 Apr 2015, at 21:23, David Griffith wrote:
>
&
What about Libre Office as an option? I heard that Libre office suppose to be
fairly accessible with voiceover.
Personally i use pages, but i'll still use the pc laptop for any complex
formating.
Joanne Chua
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> On 11 Apr 2015, at 21:23, David Griffith wrote:
>
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hard to believe
that someone would actually have $1M cash to purchase a house up front.
Joanne Chua
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> On 11 Apr 2015, at 19:15, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
>
> Awesome. you went to the store, checked it out, gave us a neutral this and
> that effect on the watch, a
If this is consider arrogance, giving the user the option is consider
arrogance, that could be say for some religion, that command and
demand their followers to do certain things, practice certain things,
what to eat and what not to eat too. Why people doesn't consider
religion as arrogance, but wo
Hands on Apple Watch
The following is my personal opinion and my first hands on impression
and review on the watch.
It is unusual for me to look in to the Apple Store on the second day
of the product launge. Since Apple Store exist on my local area, i
usually will be there the first thing in the
ecall it very well, when the ipad came out, everyone have the same
thing, whining ad complaining about how ipad is just the giant ipod, its
useless and all that. Well, oh well, how many among us in this list alone, own
an ipad, iphone, and the ipod?
Joanne Chua
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> On 11
I have this problem with my iPad mini, 1st gen, running iOS 7.12, and the
latest native facebook app.
No problem with my iphone6+, running iOS8.12, and latest native facebook app.
Joanne Chua
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> On 1 Apr 2015, at 8:04, Feliciano Godoy wrote:
>
> Facebook version
. After all, there is no universal rules to say that we must all
get along with each other.
Ones again, thanks very much, and also, thanks for the mods and the admins of
this list.
Joanne Chua
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> On 30 Mar 2015, at 16:43, David Griffith wrote:
>
> Many thanks.
>
Hi, there are one or two mods that might be the same for both list,
but generally i think they are different people.
Any level of insults sholdn't be tolerate, but then, if no one playing
in to his game, he wouldn't have able to play the game by himself...
After all, it takes two, or in this case,
Its kind of remind me that One goes to get a burger from McDonalds, and One
asking the so call order assistant as to where the beef from, what farm, and
what sort of farming practice McDonalds have, and how to become one of
McDonalds' farmer... grins,.
Joanne Chua
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&g
I have at least 3 or 4 friends that work in Apple. Every now and then they will
have some job vacancy open, and advertise through the proper job network.
Joanne Chua
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> On 20 Mar 2015, at 6:07, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>
> I have a nephew (sighted) who works at his lo
and ask ramdom questions that have nothing to do with what my
call of service is about, in fact, asking me questions that have nothing
related with my service of duty may consider insulting, in some case...
Joanne Chua
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> On 20 Mar 2015, at 5:53, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>
the system EFI partition. Simply too many unknowns.
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joanne Chua
> wrote:
>
>> What about just install it to bootcam instead?
>> How often that you need to run Linux and Mac OS side by side...
>>
>> Just my thoughts
>>
>&g
What about just install it to bootcam instead?
How often that you need to run Linux and Mac OS side by side...
Just my thoughts
Regards
Joanne
On 28/01/2015, Erik Heil wrote:
> Hello again,
> FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really
>
> helped a lot
> I was th
What about if we start asking Apple to make some products that is
specificly for voiceover, and don't worry about GPU at all hey? Won't
it be great? Maybe, someone might want to bring this up on this year
NFB convention?
On 02/01/2015, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What I'm trying to induc
; version of the OS, bring up disk utility, format the drive and then
> install a fresh copy of OSX. You'll find lots of details on each of
> these in the list archives but feel free to ask if you can't dig that up.
>
> CB
>
> On 11/27/14, 4:30 PM, Joanne Chua wrote
Hi,
is there a step by step guide on how to reformat?
I also don't have any os disk...
Thanks
Joanne Chua
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> On 28 Nov 2014, at 8:15, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>
> Hi. There is a way o
Hi, thanks.
i have nothing of important there.
Just wondering, is there a quicker way to remove content and user profile
without reformating the harddrive?
Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
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> On 28 Nov 2014, at 7
Hi all,
I'm selling off my old mac book air.
Just wondering, is that a quick and safe way to remove all it's content and
user profile, ready for the new owner?
All your help is welcome.
Thanks very much
Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
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Lots of rumous headed towards iWatch, Apple version of smart watch with extras.
On 29/08/2014, Jessica Moss wrote:
> Sounds nteresting, I'm curious as to what a wearable device is.
> On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
> wrote:
>
>> Apple set to unveil new iPhones and wearable de
This issue is actually very important issue for Apple VO users. It
could have the potential could kill Apple's effert on accessibility,
specially with VO.
So, it is, related to the group, and the objective of what this group is for.
Of course, we can go on and on about it, having our disagreement w
t improves independence for all blind and
> visually impaired people. I hope there are similar organizations in
> other countries.
>
> On 7/13/14, Joanne Chua wrote:
>> So Erik, what you are saying is that, when your kid performing very,
>> very well at school, always gets
So Erik, what you are saying is that, when your kid performing very,
very well at school, always gets 90 points in every exams, while
the rest is hobbing around 30 points, rarely pass the test, is okay
for the school principle to point your kid out in public, and punish
your kid by asking him to
watsapp works on phone number not on email address. Hens, that is also one of
the reason why it is not available on any tabs.
Joanne Chua
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> On 2 Jul 2014, at 13:06, Mike wrote:
>
> If they
No, wasapp only available for phone only
On 01/07/2014, adrian wrote:
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your local library, there are more likely to have it. If not, keep
requesting, all the numbers adding up at the end.
Joanne Chua
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> On 21 Dec 2013, at 1:29, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
> As an amusing aside, I knew a guy who used voiceover on his device to read
> long
ers out there that would like to have such
>> a solution. These are the types of people that I am looking for. I do
>> however very much appreciate all of your comments on this because it does
>> give me some ideas about what the potential market for such an application
>> migh
Again, i can easily read free unprotected ebooks using ibooks, or, if i'm
really desperet i can always use pages to read txt file, etc. And, i can always
use one of the braille displays to read daisy books, unprotected epub, pdf, and
bookshare without needing to turn on the computer at all.
Any
Hi,
I think its not fair to compare Quitter, which is absolutely free, and a pay
software like QRead itself.
As some of the listers already said, Quitter, is free, and as most of us know,
free software got develop from the developer's passion and their voluntry time.
They can commit as much as
Hi, see below copy and pace text from the QRead website. I understand
and see the needs of such reader exist on windows. But honestly, i
have my doubt of it's place on Mac. Again, it does not solve the
problem of not able to read protected ebook or DRM file. It also does
not read BRF or any similar
What will be the advantage for this so call "accessible ebook reader" compare
to say iBooks and such?
It will still going to have the problem of not able to read DRM protected
EBooks even though its accessible.
it doesn't matter is $3 $30 or $300, whey reinvent something why such similar
program
try NVDA, its free and reliable. you can read and download it from
www.nvaccess.org
On 03/12/2013, Jon Solitro wrote:
> I'm not sure…I came from using Voiceover. Now I have a PC with Windows 7.
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 4:00 PM, "Amy Ruell" wrote:
>
>> What screen reader do you need to use?
>>
>>
>>
ebook App.
>
> Mark
>
>
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Hi listers,
Anyone have any experience with this Mike before?
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yes, there is an app for facebook on the mac. I'm not sure how
accessible it is though, as i don't use facebook on my computer
On 29/11/2013, David Taylor wrote:
> Hi, as I said the other day on here, I use MenuTab Pro for Facebook. This is
> a menubar app that has a keystroke to bring it up, set
http://www.apple.com/lae/support/accessibility/vision/
If you Google it, there are numbers of result come out related to what
you looking for.
Thanks
On 26/11/2013, Andrew Head wrote:
> Hi all,
> Just wondering, is there a list of commands to use a braille display with a
> mac?
> Kind regards,
Hi Mark,
Just want to say that thinking of you and Amy and the two dogs.
Hanging there mate, it will be a long recovery for Amy, but she'll make it.
Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
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> On 27 Oct 2013, at 17:
Hi,
I think what Greg trying to say is the different from the visual and what VO
reads or may not read.
Joanne Chua
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> On 26 Oct 2013, at 13:36, Barry Hadder wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
If visual games does not need to be accessible, i wonder how manuy
people will crying over Solara not being accessible then?
Solara is a visual game, with accessibility build in on it.
Perhaps, some foolish thinking that developer develop Solara for only
the vips and the blind community, however, i
Hi,
You can use IMovie on Mac to send vedeo, or,
IMessage and send it as an attachment or
Mail, as a vedeo attachment or
share it thru dropbox, or
if it is on your phone, you can go to video, and tap on action, and it will
give you different options to share or
if you go on photos on your phone,
Hi all,
I have been ask by several different VO user now. all who are working in a Non
profit and community service sector.
Are there any CMS )Client Management System) software out there that is
accessible on the Mac?
These people found that is getting harder to work on their office PC, as th
Hi,
I don't see why not. i have a logitec bluetooth keyboard for my ipad, and it
wakes up my ipad with me pressing any key on the keyboard. Same should goes
with the braille display.
It shouldn't be a security issue at all. I have different braille displays pair
with different IDevice, e.g. Iph
not sure what google voices you talking about, but personally i can't
stand the voices for talkback.
It is overall great news. Hopefully they will also work onn the
international voices as well as the english voices.
Cheers
On 11/06/2013, Mike wrote:
> I'm very glad they're finally doing this.
release
sometime last year, however, needing to pull out as there are too many errors
that needing to fix and keeping on trial.
I'll try to find some more information about it and post it to the viphone and
also the blind photographer list later.
Great discussion from all. :)
Joanne Chua
Leader
Hi there,
I'm seriously looking in to doing the Apple professional qualification corse.
Why? First at all, if nothing, it will be for my personal development purposes.
Of course, i believe that will also allow more opportunities my way,
and have a better understanding of Apple products and framewo
Hi All,
Have anyone on this list use IBooks Author before? If so, how
accessible and user friendly for voiceover user.
Thanks
Regards
Joanne
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Hi All,
Even with UEB - Unify English Braille also have it's problem. It
suppose to unite all the english braille, but it creates pmore
problem. Like now, even english braile countries have different sort
of UEB floting around the place.
Its a bit like a contract, i will adapt UEB, in my terms,
Hi there,
Oppologise for a stupid question
After some consideration and some tips and advice i forward to her
from this group, my friend decided to go with IPad4 rather than a
Macmini at this point of time.
What will be the estimate delivery time from the item been shipt from
Apple wharehouse to
;>
>> very well without a moditor.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
>>
>>> Hi There,
>>>
>>> I've an enquiry from one of my friend. She's looking at getting a
>>> MacMin
Hi There,
I've an enquiry from one of my friend. She's looking at getting a
MacMini but is not sure if it can operates without a mornitor. As
she's totally blind, a mornitor aint gonna help her alot.
I've try to contact Apple yesterday to explain the situation to them,
unfortunately, they insist t
Hi
We recieve your test messages just fine. I think it was around 5 test
messages from you in the last 10minutes or so. smiles
cheers
On 11/10/2012, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Since I updated to the latest version of the Mail client, on my Mac, last
> week, I cannot seem to send mes
Hi
I use IWorks for all of the office application. I haven't explore
other application however, i know that IWorks accessibility is about
90% compare to some other like ms office for Mac, which, it is pretty
inaccessible.
Cheers
Joanne
On 16/09/2012, Chris Bruinenberg wrote:
> what is everybody
Hi Emilio,
What sort of accessible apps and programs out there for your Mac, is
also sort of like asking how long is a piece of string Smiles.
What about you give us an idea as to what you need to do, hope to
achieve, might able to suggest some programs and apps along the way?
Cheers
On 10/09/20
Hi All,
What is the best way to send invite or to rekomend someone to this list?
One of my dear friend has been trying to get on this list for the last
few months without any success. And i'm not able to locate the
membership invitation link for him
Any help is very much appreciated.
Thanks
Re
Hi All,
May i know, what is the vo command for nevigating to new window?
For example, if i've choose a wifi network, and i've click on "join
network", another window pop up for passwords or security code. How
can i using Voiceover, nevigate to the dialog box?
Any help very appreciated.
Thanks v
Hi all,
As subject above suggest, can you upgreat your MBA e.g. ram, SSD after
perchase? I know they are upgreatable in a way that you must upgreat
when you order it, but can you upgreat it down the track?
Thanks
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Hi all,
I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me,
as i bringing this out every so often...
I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days.
But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA.
my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch,
MBA13inch with 128GB,
Hi there,
I'm a voiceover low vision user and looking for an accessible photo
edditing software.
I have a play with Adobe Photoshop CS4, it is pretty much not
accessible in all front and back.
Will anyone know of any voiceover friendly photo edditing software?
Thanks in advance
Regards
Joanne
Hi there,
After been friend with IMac and trial on older generalation of MBP for
a while, and the fact that my 5.5 year old Dell laptop is slowly
giving up due to overheating, i think i'm quite ready to slowly but
surely move in to the Apple Mac family completely.
Can i have some general fit back
Welcome Chris.
I'm pretty new Mac user myself, and i'm glad i make the switch. It
wasn't as bad as i thought when i started, ones you get the logic of
Mac OS and the way it works, its definitely way more advantage than
Windows.
I have the question tto the group though, what is the advantage of
g
Hi,
sorry for being a pain,
I've upgreated to Lion yesterday, however, How can i activate
different voices on Lion?
on on the voiceover uterlities, it just allow me to choose between
Alex and Leigh.
any help will be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Hi there,
as subject above suggest,
I'm looking for some accesible audio editing software that is Mac
comparable and hopefully Window comparable too. I do know that some of
you here uses Amadeus for Audio editing purposes.
What is the plus and miness for this software? and, any tutorial
availabl
y table would be called VO command T. Moving by
> heading is VO command H.
>
> When you talk about the rotor. Are you referring to the rotor gesture
> performed on the trackpad?
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothec
Hi there,
Is there a way i can turn the rota on the Mac? Also, how can i
activate the compack/not compack voice?
On another note, i do know voiceover have the webspot and all that,
but beside that, is that a way where i can jump from table to table or
heading to heading?
as always, i appreciate
;, "remove from dock"
>>
>> To move an item on the dock:
>> 1. go to the dock with VO D
>> 2. use the left and right arrow keys to move to the item you want to
>> remove
>> 3. press Option Command left or right arrow keys to move to the left or
>
Hi all,
As a growing baby of Mac, i come across an issue that i do not know
how to solve. Been asking sighties about it, always come with the
answer that "its impossible for such command to do on VO as its drag
and drop".
May i know, as a VO user, how can we Drag and Drop or remove items on the do
,
> Alex (msg sent from my iPod)
> mehg...@gmail.com; //facebook.com/mehgcap
>
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 19:57, Joanne Chua wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As a newish user of mac, and someone who rely heavily on PDFs for
>> research and work purposes, i haven't come ac
Hi,
As a newish user of mac, and someone who rely heavily on PDFs for
research and work purposes, i haven't come across any pdf issue. i
suppose something we need to understand, the issue is not with
screenreader itself, is with the image of the pdf itself. If you have
a scann image pdf file, rega
Hi
Been using facebook for iphone app since i got my iphone which is end
of 2010 and found it pretty accessible. Yes, it can be better, but i'm
not aware of any inaccessible issue at all. sometime it plays up,
particularly when we upgreat from IOS4 to IOS5. but soon after,
facebook did another upd
l.You can write to me using
>> mosesn...@gmail.com.
>> I have found it to be good, however, my only problem is I don't seem to be
>> able to find the button to forward a mail to someone else.
>> Regards,
>> Moses.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
&
Hi All,
First at all, wish you all happy 2012, may 2012 will be a prosperity
year in life, accissibility, and also in the Apple world.
There're two issues i wish to clearify with some of you here. any good
voice over friendly writing program for writers beside iworks or
office?
gmail users who ha
forwarded message:
Hi all,
Just wondering whether anyone has had any experience converting Adobi
Digital Editions Epub books on a Mac?
I have the tools, , but I'm afraid I'm having trouble figuring out the
conversion process.
If anyone has any helpful advice, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
Hi,
Another arguement i have from some other sources are that, considering
how "hand on" person he is, won't be surprise if he has a major impack
on their accessibility.
Regardless, does it matter? After all, come to the products, and the
products are useful, accessible, and become an essential i
Hi there,
Have any bookshare international user try the Read to go app for the ios?
It seems like a good app, and i'm not sure if it will work outside the
US oor not. if it won't work for bookshare international subscriber,
it is somewhat useless to pay $20 for it.
Any fitback will be good.
Th
After reading on my iphone using IBooks, i agree with Scott, its
definitely one of the best experience i ever have reading a book with
fully control. However, i guess it is just some people prefference
reading on the computer. I used to done that quite a lot few years
ago, but now, i'm simply grow
Hi,
This is a question someone asked me, and now i ask the group on behalf
of my friend, who pretty much a protential Mac and IPad user.
I absolute love my IBooks, and more so today, when i woke up, and the
first thing i realize that i got an email from ITune knowtifying me my
pre-order of Steve J
Hi all,
oppologise if someone posted this before and if its not related to Mac...
I have Iphon4 and recently upgrate to ios5. I love IOS5. In some way i
feel like i have a brand new phone with existing hardware.
However, i found some issue with voiceover on IOS5. It seems somehow,
voiceover losin
hi there,
depends on what sort of document and how often you using it? the
"ocation" can mean ones a week or ones a month or ones in few months.
i personally suggest you to use ABBY Reader, its accessible,
affordable, and one of the few greatest scanning software i come
across cormertially.
howe
hi there
is there a way to un cync something from the phone to itune? in
another word, is ttat a way to delete some playlist or some songs from
iphone but does not effect itune on the desttop?
thanks
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hi there,
sorry to be off topic but, how can one eddit a caractor within a text
or a word? e.g. i spell a name wrong and wishes to eddit a middle
caractor, instead of deleting from the end or from the start, is there
any way for me to backtrack myself to the caractor that i want to
eddit?
thanks
tings, Anouk,
>> Op 24-8-2011 2:52, Kristyn Leigh schreef:
>>> Office for Mac is not accessible with VoiceOver.
>>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> as i'm getting a new
its indeed a sad news of Apple world, but i suppose Steve Jobs knowing
what is the best for him and Apple.
all the best to Steve with his future, and also all the best to Tim
Cook and hopefully he'll prove to be a great accessibility supporter
for Mac and other Apple products
On 25/08/2011, Macces
>
> On 24 Aug 2011, at 01:47, Joanne Chua wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> as i'm getting a new 13inch 2.7 processor mac book pro from my
>> university, and i'm fairly new with Mac, and they are requesting me to
>> provide them with a list of programs that
Hi all,
as i'm getting a new 13inch 2.7 processer mac book pro from my
university, and i'm fairly new with Mac, and they are requesting me to
provide them with a list of programs that i want to be loaded, i'm
wondering what sort of program that is a must for a university student
to have?
i've req
hi Dona,
just a thought, what about keeping the mbp as main computer, and get
an ipad for your travel use?
On 15/08/2011, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi Ricardo,
>
> thanks for responding. What you said was pretty much what I expected, but
> good to have it confirmed. As for high-resource tasks,I am
hi there,
considering i'm requesting an ipad for study use from my university,
it will means that i'm in loan for that ipad as long as i need it for
the corse.
i'm wondering, for the apps that i might put on the ipad, e.g. pages,
keynote, etc, will it consider as my own apps in the terms of my Ap
hi all,
it sounds like stupid and dump question but, is that a way to create a
multiple user mode on ipad?
thanks
cheers
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hi there,
sorry for asking such a simple question, but, how can i keep voice
over on the log in screen?
i try to search for the option on system prefferences and voice over
prefferences, and i end up with no result.
any help is much appreciated
cheers
Joanne (Australia)
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hi there,
it might be slightly out of the list discussion however, may i know,
how can i copy and pace a sellected text from one location of the
iphoen to another?
i've try many ways but it dont tseems to work.
any help is much appreciated
cheers
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hi Alison,
i know this group is not for out-topic-message, but however, the
person you really need to thank is Niel and the rest, not me.
i'm new user of Mac, Niel and the rest who have help me particular
Niel, is the person that teach me how to use quicknav.
and now, time to have a cup of coffee
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