This issue is actually very important issue for Apple VO users. It could have the potential could kill Apple's effert on accessibility, specially with VO. So, it is, related to the group, and the objective of what this group is for. Of course, we can go on and on about it, having our disagreement with NFB etc, but i urge people to discuss this in a rational manor, not in a political and emotional manor.
On 15/07/2014, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote: > Cheree Heppe here: > > What? The blind don't have the right to be cavalier? > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > Sent from my IPhone 4S > > On 14 Jul 2014, at 16:42, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Such a cavalier attitude we do not need here. > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > Never raise your hand to your children -- it leaves your midsection > unprotected. > --Robert Orben > Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn > E-mail- > gone.to.da...@gmail.com > >> On 7/14/2014 4:01 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: >> Simple solution then, no? Don't like, don't read! >> Stop complaining. >> Matt Dierckens >> Macintosh Trainer >> Blind Access Training >> www.blindaccesstraining.com >> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 >> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com >> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course >> available now. >> Spots are limited, sign up here >> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/ >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Pam, >>> I could have weighed in too but at the end of the day, no one and I >>> mean, no one, scores any points. All I have seen is repeats of repeats on >>> top of repeats. I am all for debates but this is not the right place, and >>> yes there are hundreds of better choices to take these things to. But >>> some people are just too damn lazy and too damn inconsiderate to bother, >>> they just fling the mud around and we all get plastered. >>> >>> Over 100 posts just this week alone. Who knows how many last week. >>> >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> A solid home base builds a sense of self. >>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>> >>>> On 7/14/2014 2:48 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: >>>> Amen to that!! >>>> This type of crap is what Terrace lists and people apart even though the >>>> mission is to help people. >>>> I pray I did not open a can of worms when I initially responded to the >>>> original post. If in fact I did to the list, I deeply apologize. This >>>> is a forum used to help people. Those who are experts, those who are >>>> beginners; gladly give of their time to be a resource. Maybe these types >>>> of issues within our Mac community need to have a forum of their own. >>>> Does anyone know if there is a group that can be used to debate these >>>> types of issues? I want to continue to learn from anyone and everyone >>>> willing to participate on this list. However if it turns political, I'm >>>> going to have to unsubscribe. That would be a shame. >>>> >>>> Pam Francis >>>> >>>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Enough already! Give it a rest. This is NOT the place to bring up >>>> political issues. >>>> >>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>> When you are dissatisfied and would like to go back to youth, think of >>>> Algebra. >>>> --Will Rogers >>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >>>> E-mail- >>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> On 7/14/2014 2:16 PM, CJ Daniel wrote: >>>>> Really? >>>>> >>>>> It seems to me that regulation is a bit like law enforcement these >>>>> days. Sure, they can catch the average citizen. But, they never seem >>>>> to catch the big fish. In other words, just as NFB is trying to police >>>>> a company that is already doing a pretty good job of doing what they >>>>> define as morally right & socially responsible; the law & regulations >>>>> can really only police those who choose to be governed by them. The >>>>> others will always find a way around laws that get in the way. >>>>> >>>>> CJ >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Jason White <ja...@jasonjgw.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> David Taylor <e.david.tay...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I wonder how anybody thinks national legislation can have any serious >>>>>>> impact >>>>>>> on the internet given that the internet is global, and most >>>>>>> corporations can >>>>>>> site their sites wherever they like? >>>>>> >>>>>> What matters is not the jurisdiction in which the site is hosted, but >>>>>> the >>>>>> jurisdiction in which the corporation operates; and the latter cannot >>>>>> be >>>>>> changed so easily in most cases. 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