Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI. interesting voice over read secret if I read by turning the roter to words Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, & fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 2 May 2014, at 11:56 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: > I

Re: Which Mac?

2014-05-02 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI. I haven't worked with a macbook air, but I have a macbook pro and love it. I can use vmware fusion without any problems. I hope this helps Blessings! maria and Joe chapman Email, iMessage & fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl On 3 May 2014, at 9:13 am, Tristan wrote: > Hell

Re: Kenwood software for Mac

2014-05-02 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
Hi. I am not a blind ham but am willing to throw my voice in there in order to make the software accessible for someone that wants to use it. Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 3 May 2014, at 2:07 pm, Eric Oyen wrote: > I have been trying to get the developer of chirp to add so

re: Kenwood software for Mac

2014-05-02 Thread Eric Oyen
I have been trying to get the developer of chirp to add some accessibility to the app (considering that those class objects are included in python, there shouldn't be an excuse not to). However, I have either been ignored (for the most part) or had one of the other users on that mailing list try

Re: iSSH or other ssh app for iPad

2014-05-02 Thread Ryan Mann
I have used Prompt to connect to a telnetable server and VoiceOver read the screen automatically. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > iSsh does appear to work. It connects with no problems and I can read what is > on the screen/in the terminal with bra

Re: Which Mac?

2014-05-02 Thread Karen Lewellen
Without much reason to vote, i want to point out something. Apple announced a couple of days back that they are changing the air line. Especially since longevity is a motivation, the macbook pro may be best? Kare from her chair in the corner. On Fri, 2 May 2014, Feliciano G wrote: I would

Re: Which Mac?

2014-05-02 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there At a recent meeting where I was recently, somebody asked what would be the difference between the MacBook air and the MacBook Pro. They wanted to know how you would choose. It was explained to them that it depends on what processing you need, and the person that told this said that the

Re: VO KNOWLEDGABLE TECH AT APPLE SUPPORT

2014-05-02 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there I have called that 877-204-3930 number several times. I have had excellent results with that number. When you call that number, you get a recording that says that this number is four visually impaired or hearing-impaired customers. You are talking to the senior advisers. Sincerely, Gigi

Re: Which Mac?

2014-05-02 Thread Feliciano G
I would get the MacBook Pro. I am not a fan of the air lineup. Regards, Feliciano Sent from the Super-iPhone > On May 2, 2014, at 4:13 PM, "Tristan" wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been a part of this group for some time now, and have enjoyed the > wealth of information that I've gleaned

Re: VO KNOWLEDGABLE TECH AT APPLE SUPPORT

2014-05-02 Thread Jessica
8772043930 Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2014, at 8:05 PM, don bishop wrote: > > > > - Forwarded Message - > From: don bishop > To: macvisionarr...@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, May 2, 2014 5:01 pm > Subject: VO KNOWLEDGABLE TECH AT APPLE SUPPORT > >> >> >> Hi, >> I'm havin

Adding server Favorites in Colloquy IrC chat client

2014-05-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
hi, all, I'm trying to add a server to favorites, but this option is dimmed. I'm keeping my connections panel open for now, but is there something I might not have set right? Are the favorites servers or chatrooms or both? Thanks, teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan

VO KNOWLEDGABLE TECH AT APPLE SUPPORT

2014-05-02 Thread don bishop
- Forwarded Message - From: don bishop To: macvisionarr...@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, May 2, 2014 5:01 pm Subject: VO KNOWLEDGABLE TECH AT APPLE SUPPORT > > > Hi, > I'm having a problem with a setting in mavericks mail. Does anyone know of a > person I could contact in apple sup

Which Mac?

2014-05-02 Thread Tristan
Hello, I've been a part of this group for some time now, and have enjoyed the wealth of information that I've gleaned from observing. I've finally come to the decision on switching from Windows to Mac. I'll either be getting a MacBook Air, or MacBook Pro. One of the big things for me, however, is

Re: Connecting a printer to a network

2014-05-02 Thread Agent086b
Yes, I have added the printer to the Mac. That was easy. I am trying to connect it wirelessly to our network so as we can have the printer some ware else in the house. Max On 3 May 2014, at 8:48 am, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote: > Did you try adding the printer in the printers and fax section of

Re: Connecting a printer to a network

2014-05-02 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
Did you try adding the printer in the printers and fax section of system preferences? I think you should be able to do everything from there.. Good luck! We just did the adding a printer thing ourselves. Cait On May 2, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Agent086b wrote: > Hi, > we have just purchased an Epson

Connecting a printer to a network

2014-05-02 Thread Agent086b
Hi, we have just purchased an Epson 710 printer. The printer is not as accessible as I thought it would be. These blessid touch screens! Is there a way to enter the network settings from the Mac instead of the printer itself? My sited wife could do this but our password is 63 characters long. No

Re: solution to finding bluetooth device address in mavericks

2014-05-02 Thread Ray Foret Jr
So, let me get this here straight. 1. Press control+8 or VO+m twice in quick succession to access the menu extras. 2. Now, use VO right or left to access the blue tooth menu. 3. Now, hold down the option key alone for a few seconds, 4. Now, press control+space to enter the menu. Is that ri

Re: solution to finding bluetooth device address in mavericks

2014-05-02 Thread Robert C
Got the link to where you found this? Sounds interesting. Quote of the nanosecond . . . I'm writing a book. I've got the page numbers done. Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 5/2/2014 2:34 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: It hadn't occurred to me before either. I did some

Re: solution to finding bluetooth device address in mavericks

2014-05-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It hadn't occurred to me before either. I did some googling and found an article telling you how to monitor your device's signal strength which is also revealed with option and that is why I tried it. > -- > Cheryl > I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. > I got crumpled wads of tear-sta

Re: best printer?

2014-05-02 Thread erik
The options are getting really good these days. I would stay away from hp. They are going touch for their multifunctions. The web imterface is pretty accessivle but you may need help to get set up. I was avle to set my samsung up all by myself usimg my mac to add the wifi settings via usb.

Re: solution to finding bluetooth device address in mavericks

2014-05-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hey, Cheryl, thanks. It seems obvious now that we know it, because using option with click visually shows more menu options, but this didn't occur to me before. This worked. I did everything slowly. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On May 2, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: >

solution to finding bluetooth device address in mavericks

2014-05-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I know there was a thread about this a while back and I have been trying to figure it out ever since. I just found it in case nobody has yet discovered this and posted it. Make sure that you have checked the box in system Preferences > bluetooth to show bluetooth in menu bar. Then go into menu

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, that's exactly it. This way, I could have a technical passage at a slower rate than a passage from a novel, say. Teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx On May 2, 2014, at 12:17 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

Re: Installing from zip files

2014-05-02 Thread Robert C
Ok I will have to see what the command o did as I did realize it was a zip so did not get the expected response. Looked at the zip file in Windows and there are 2 or 3 nested folders. Just took another look in it and did not see what might be the installer so will work with it on the Mac. Th

Re: Eclips on the Mac

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Supposedly voiceover support was add some time ago. I don't use Eclipse but since it is free, give it a whirl. CB On 4/4/14, 6:50 PM, Sean Muprhy wrote: Hello all. Does Eclips work with Voice-Over? Is there a Mac Blind Programming group? Sean -- You received this message because you are su

Re: Installing from zip files

2014-05-02 Thread Brandon Olivares
Usually no different than otherwise. In the zip file there will either be a package installer. If so open it as usual and the installer will run. Sometimes the application itself is in the zip file, then you can just move it to the Applications folder. On May 2, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Robert C wrote

Re: Installing from zip files

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Depends a bit on what it is but the first step is to unzip it. That's done by selecting the file and then opening it (Command-O). That should create an uncompressed version. It might be the full app to go in your applications folder or it might be an installer. CB On 5/2/14, 3:44 PM, Robert C

Installing from zip files

2014-05-02 Thread Robert C
Another new thing for me. How to install an app that is in a zip file? Thanks. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A hole has been found in the nudist camp wall. The police are looking into it. Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Are you saying you want the output of the say command stored as an mp3? Apples embedded speech commands are described in the documentation here: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/userexperience/conceptual/SpeechSynthesisProgrammingGuide/FineTuning/FineTuning.html#//apple_ref/

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
So could you append a file that would be spoken as an mp3 file with one of these speech commands? Just curious. Teresa “We’re made of star stuff.”—Carl Sagan On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi, > > I have also seen this for years. > > this is not quite a bug

Re: keyboard question

2014-05-02 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
At an office supply store near me. It's called Beatty's Basics. Any ideas as to my question? Cait On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert wrote: > Wheir did you get the keyboard from? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I ju

Re: how to get a credit back from the App Store

2014-05-02 Thread Robert C
Interesting. I even did a search for the word 'report'. Nothing. I wonder if its invisible. Will try later to see if I can find that. :) Quote of the nanosecond . . . Even when I was saying I was Agnostic and trying to figure out my thoughts, I felt God was allowing me to do that. --Alfre

Re: how to get a credit back from the App Store

2014-05-02 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi Robert, its right after the amount billed. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On May 2, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Robert C wrote: > I looked and looked and do not see a report a problem link in the emails. > > Quote of the na

Re: how to get a credit back from the App Store

2014-05-02 Thread Robert C
I looked and looked and do not see a report a problem link in the emails. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Last week, I stated this woman was the ugliest woman I had ever seen. I have since been visited by her sister . and now wish to withdraw that statement. --Mark Twain Robert & Annie Yann

Re: keyboard question

2014-05-02 Thread Isaac Hebert
Wheir did you get the keyboard from? Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie > wrote: > > Hi, > I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i mac. > the tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked. > > when I got it home

Re: vienna

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Vienna, the RSS feed reader is open source and available here: http://www.vienna-rss.org CB On 4/7/14, 1:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I thought I read that the podcatcher app Vienna was on the app store. I just searched for it and came up empty. Am I nuts or what? On second thought, don't answer

Re: Safari don't play audio tag

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Seems to be working for me. Which particular part was not working? What version of Safari were you on? CB On 4/7/14, 2:04 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: here it is http://www.piano-play-it.com/piano-exercises.html On 07 Apr 2014, at 01:18 pm, Catherine Turner wrote: Hi, Apologies if

Re: video editing question

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
I didn't notice a followup to this. After you rotate the video in QuickTime Player you need to export the video. The exported file will have the rotation changed. CB On 4/7/14, 3:02 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hi group; is there a way to rotate a video and then save it in quick time or imovie? I

Re: how to get a credit back from the App Store

2014-05-02 Thread Jessica
You can. I've done it multiple times. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Robert C wrote: > > You cannot do this from those emails. You need to go to iTunes suppprt. I > need to do this myself but have not gone thru the process yet. > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > Got milk

Re: how to get a credit back from the App Store

2014-05-02 Thread Robert C
You cannot do this from those emails. You need to go to iTunes suppprt. I need to do this myself but have not gone thru the process yet. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Got milk? --California Milk Processor Board Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 5/2/2014 6:04 AM,

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi, I have also seen this for years. this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech command which you can see in action by doing the following. I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's speech go wonky! lol! :) 1 open a text file wi

keyboard question

2014-05-02 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
Hi, I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i mac. the tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked. when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted like nothing was plugged into it at all. I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.

Re: iSSH or other ssh app for iPad

2014-05-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh yes! I can use the braille edge in bluetooth terminal mode with the ipad, start brltty after starting screen once connected to my computer with iSSH, and then just switch back and forth with my braille edge between the ipad (bluetooth) and the computer with brltty (usb). Could probably do the

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Devin Prater
I think its a macintalk problem. Devin Prater Sent from my iPod 5. iMessage, facebook, and face-time: devinpra...@live.com email: d.pra...@me.com Google Talk/keychat: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > On May 2, 2014, at 9:29, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > I believe that this has been around for quite

Re: iSSH or other ssh app for iPad

2014-05-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, this is exciting! I sshed with iSSH on to my computer in terminal. Then I started screen-4.0.1 and brailletty starting brailletty up with my refreshabraille since I was using the braille edge on the ipad. Using the refreshabraille and my bluetooth keyboard I was able to navigate, edit and

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Jim Gatteys
Really odd results Alex. I wonder if it has to do with the brackets? Whatever the case it shouldn't do that. Jim On May 2, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone can > confirm it. Below is a line of code. You d

Re: iSSH or other ssh app for iPad

2014-05-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
iSsh does appear to work. It connects with no problems and I can read what is on the screen/in the terminal with braille and by flicking on the ipad. But it is kind of clunky because all the terminal lines are numbered and when I opened an editor in terminal it worked but it was hard to tell whe

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Anne Robertson
Interestingly, when navigating right by word using Option-right-Arrow, the word Secret was not read, but when navigating left it was. Cheers, Anne On 2 May 2014, at 16:29, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > I believe that this has been around for quite a while actually. I thought > that it had

Re: using SPSS or otherwise doing statistics on the Mac

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
I didn't notice any replies to this. I don't know if the Mac version is accessible although IBM is known for making accessible software, at least on other platforms. You can download a free trial of their app which works for two weeks here: https://www14.software.ibm.com/download/data/web/en_U

best printer?

2014-05-02 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Okay, I am soon going to be in the market for a printer. I'd prefer a printer/faxer/scanner. Do any of y'all out there know which three-in-1 printers would be the most accessible to Voice Over? I'd want a printer where I could adjust the fax settings, scanner settings with Abby Fine Reader

Re: Accessible Packet Sniffers?

2014-05-02 Thread Alex Hall
This might work, thanks for the link. On May 2, 2014, at 11:20 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: > PacketPeeper is close: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/packetpeeper/ > > You can set it up to record all traffic going in/out of a network connection > and then check all the meta

Re: Accessible Packet Sniffers?

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
PacketPeeper is close: http://sourceforge.net/projects/packetpeeper/ You can set it up to record all traffic going in/out of a network connection and then check all the metadata about each packet. The hole right now is the actual payload of the packet is displayed in an 'empty scroll area' wh

Re: Kenwood software for Mac

2014-05-02 Thread Robert C
Chirp is already deleted. And no, I have not heard of any other solutions, other than running the Kenwood sodtware in Windows. My rigs, except for the handheld, have the speech chip so I can manage with that. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Can you cry under water? Robert & Annie Yanni ke

Re: iSSH or other ssh app for iPad

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Dunno about that one but I can tell you TouchTerm is not accessible. I could get connected and even log into the remote host but once there, the entire text display was not accessible. CB On 5/2/14, 10:52 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: I would like to be able to ssh into my MAC computers from my iPa

Re: Kenwood software for Mac

2014-05-02 Thread Daniel Chavez
My thinking is nope. Developers aren't interested inWindows/Mac screen readers. Direct from the FAQ of the Chirp site http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/FAQ#Im-a-blind-ham-Can-I-use-CHIRP-with-a-screen-reader I'm a blind ham. Can I use CHIRP with a screen reader? CHIRP uses a graphical

iSSH or other ssh app for iPad

2014-05-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I would like to be able to ssh into my MAC computers from my iPad. I found iSSH but don't know if it is accessible and will allow me to ssh to my computers. Has anybody used this or another ssh app, without jailbreaking, and found it accessible? I want to ssh from my iPad to my computer NOT into

Re: Kenwood software for Mac

2014-05-02 Thread Robert C
So much for that idea. You saved me some grief. Got this from a blind hams list so what were they thinking? Are the developers interested in making Chirp compatible? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A James Cagney love scene is one where he lets the other guy live. --Bob Hope Robert & Annie

Re: Kenwood software for Mac

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
I'm not a Ham but I did find this article with links to various Ham OSX programs and voiceover: http://www.hamradioandvision.com/mac-osx-page-hamradioandvision/ CB On 5/2/14, 7:16 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: I can guarantee you that Chirp is *not* accessible with Voiceover. For that matter, it

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I believe that this has been around for quite a while actually. I thought that it had something to do with what VO considers punctuation and what it does with that consideration. But, after reading your message and changing VO’s punctuation reading to “All," it did read some of the bracke

Re: Mailbox Sort Order in Mavericks

2014-05-02 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, This seems like something that is configurable. Not that I can figure out what it is though. It just seems like something in a plist file is set to descending instead of ascending. It shouldn't have been this problematic. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurr

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Alex Hall
You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. Thanks

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails: This is some [[[secret]]] text. I have the word "secret" in triple b

Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I can read character by character and it shows up, though. Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > I've noticed somet

Re: LastPass and Safari - Major Problem!

2014-05-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
I use all my apps in full-screen mode, so this hasn't been an issue for me. I just make sure this is the case in safari, and LastPass works fine. I suspect it might be an incompatibility issue with VO and LastPass in Safari. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On May 2, 2014

Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

2014-05-02 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole] is omitted e

Re: how to get a credit back from the App Store

2014-05-02 Thread Jessica
Find your iTunes receipt in your email, click the report a problem link, and fill in the information that it requires. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Scott Berry wrote: > > Hi there, > > I ought a program that I thought would work for coring PDFs to Docx format > but I fou

how to get a credit back from the App Store

2014-05-02 Thread Scott Berry
Hi there, I ought a program that I thought would work for coring PDFs to Docx format but I found out I don't like the way it does it's conversions and it's recognition is great. So I want to get my money back. How do I do this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Mailbox Sort Order in Mavericks

2014-05-02 Thread Steve Holmes
Makes perfect sense. I used the shell to do the whole thing. I quit mail.app first, then did the rename of .mboxCache.plist and all, but when I restarted mail.app, the list of mail folders was rebuilt but the alpha order is still reversed. I guess my machine does not know her ABC's:). I suppose

Re: Kenwood software for Mac

2014-05-02 Thread Buddy Brannan
I can guarantee you that Chirp is *not* accessible with Voiceover. For that matter, it can only be used with lots of mouse keys navigation under Windows, and most easily with Window-Eyes, in my experience. On May 2, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Robert C wrote: > This is free software and it should be

Re: Changing mp3 tags

2014-05-02 Thread Steve Holmes
I like to use a program called id3 edit. I don’t remember the original source right off top of my head; they aren’t in the app store. I use that all the time before placing tracks into iTunes. that way iTunes can store them in their proper places in the library. On Apr 30, 2014, at 1:05 PM, 'Ch

Re: LastPass and Safari - Major Problem!

2014-05-02 Thread Steve Holmes
I wasn't sure who the culprit was. When I started seeing this problem, Safari had just been upgraded and LastPass had been upgraded fairly recently too. I will have to try the maximize trick next time I need to use it. I'm surprised this doesn't affect people not using VO as it seems to grab key

Re: Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks

2014-05-02 Thread Steve Holmes
Yeah, I had a lot of performance issues shortly after a Mavericks update too last month. I wasn’t aware of spotlight index rebuilds or any of that but the only real outstanding issue here now is Mail still seems sluggish at times but over all, the machine is quite workable now. Another thing tha