Interestingly, when navigating right by word using Option-right-Arrow, the word 
Secret was not read, but when navigating left it was.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 2 May 2014, at 16:29, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I believe that this has been around for quite a while actually.  I thought 
> that it had something to do with what VO considers punctuation and what it 
> does with that consideration.  But, after reading your message and changing 
> VO’s punctuation reading to “All," it did read some of the brackets but it 
> still had problems with the area you were pointing to.  I’m guessing that the 
> idea that the double-brackets causes the issue is valid.
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and 
>> line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't 
>> appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured 
>> out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. 
>> Thanks.
>> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. 
>>> So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket 
>>> that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails:
>>> 
>>> This is some [[[secret]]] text.
>>> 
>>> I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move 
>>> focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty 
>>> low-level bug.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>> That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I 
>>>> can read character by character and it shows up, though.
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. 
>>>> Feynman
>>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone 
>>>>> can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know 
>>>>> Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. 
>>>>> Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] 
>>>>> isDiscardStackRole] is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation 
>>>>> to "most" before continuing. Here's the line:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self 
>>>>> solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole]]]];
>>>>> 
>>>>> I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back 
>>>>> and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there 
>>>>> isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce 
>>>>> this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are 
>>>>> getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded 
>>>>> by double brackets, and I think the speech manager that lets VO talk 
>>>>> might be getting mixed up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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