At least the guys at Apple were honest and mentioned that some 3rd programs
wouldn't work. I believe this is a bold statement to say. Hats off to
Apple. Most companies that sells VI products will usually boast about how
great the product is and that it's the best in the market. The name of the
This is typical NFB. Prey on an already oppressed popularion with
scare tactics about what *COULD* go wrong and how helpless they'd be
unless trhey do things the NFB way. It's why I have very little to do
with organized groups of blind people. Don't feel bad; I also scoff
at organized r
Wish I'd seen that before I moved everything by hand over my network...
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I agree with everything said. Mac popularity has grown despite access
world which buy the way did write a very nice review of lepard last
September. I don't think blind people will just go buy that as a
facter. I really think the younger blind crowd will embrace mac more
and the older o
The subject line here is complete nonsense.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
> Hmmm, I don't think this is necessarily the case. What I'd say it is
> is that
> it is their terminology for a graphics labeler so that we can label
> things
> we find in apps that haven't been fi
ATT is the exclusive carrier for the USA so VZ can only dream about
offering the iPhone. Maybe VZ gave Apple the brush off when they had
their chance at it. I know VZ in the past has been anti-mac so why would
that change now?
CB
Scott Howell wrote:
> Well what I really hope is that Verizon Wi
Not sure if it has but you should send a message about this to apple.
Ask them and let them know that you would like it back. That is how
things get moving, when customers tell the provider what they want.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:28 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>
> Good evening,
>
> Does anyone know
It is actually very clear. Just google it and you will find that the
ATT Apple contract expires in 2010.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> In a couple of previous messages you've said that the iPhone will be
> on the Verizon network. I'm not sure about the validity
Actually i've done this successfully, by hijacking system audio,
hijacking my mic, and going back to the system audio session, and
hitting record on that.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
> What, there's a feature in OSX to run an app I download through to
> fix most
> of
I believe this was due to the 2 year contract that would have to be
broken. There has been some discussion about this in other forums. So if
you've got most of a two year contract on your current phone and want to
break it to get an iPhone it's going to cost you. This is probably an
AT&T thing
As I had mentioned in the past, the non-S model of iPhone didn't have
enough power to do real text to speech so I was kinda hoping we'd have
VO with the newly released model. That also means we won't have this
migrating to iPods and such anytime soon. Hope it works well in the real
world.
CB
On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
> Ah, so that means that we will probably not see something useful for
> the
> blind unless we could accessibly jailbreak and keep VO in tact.
What?! Which part of "All apps that ship with the phone will work with
Voiceover" was unclear?
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Did you guys see the feature to add descriptions to elements. It
> sounds a lot like FS's JAWS Scripts, don't you think.
No, I don't think. It sounds more like the labeling functions
available in most screen readers for the past 1
I'm listening to the WWDC keynote now, and I just heard something
exciting.
It says that Apple is allowing developers (plural, he said
"developers", which could mean more than just Tomtom) to build apps
with turn by turn directions, built on the maps application.
If I understand this corre
Its a great time for people needing speech. We have the iphone with
voiceover and later this summer we have research in motion coming out
with a blackberry that talks. And the research seams to be coming
along for having speech on the gooogle phones by the end of the year.
Lots of great
Hi, I totally am with ya there. The only bad thing is they don't have
the iPhone on Tmobile and I'm not sure I can switch to ATT. I hope
that perhaps they can get the iPhone to work with Tmobile. At any
rate I was so thrilled. The possibility is endless now. Just think.
Maybe they can come out w
Sounds to me like an improved version of Agness. I'm guessing the
voice shown in the guided tour during the voice control section is the
same used for VO feedback.
James
On 6/9/09, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Yep. Sure is..
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 9-Jun-09, at 8:42 PM, Jessi and Gol
I didn't like this article for the most part. I didn't think it was
quite fair. In fact I thought it was pretty negitive. One thing I
tell other blind people about Mac and VoiceOver is to keep firm in
their mind it is not Windows and JAWS or WindowEyes. Compairing Apples
and Microsofts is like co
Hmmm, I don't think this is necessarily the case. What I'd say it is is that
it is their terminology for a graphics labeler so that we can label things
we find in apps that haven't been fixed yet. Without that, we'd just have to
live with the unknown unlabeled buttons that are around now and th
Ah, so that means that we will probably not see something useful for the
blind unless we could accessibly jailbreak and keep VO in tact.
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From: "Alex Jurgensen"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone
>
> Hi,
>
> The
stop it at lest it is giving access to the apps on the iphone that we
did't have befor I don't care how it happends I am just apploding it.
please stop the winning over a good thing. or are you never stesfied.
ie need to have somthing to winn about. hmm Maurice.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:45 PM, A
Hi,
Did you guys see the feature to add descriptions to elements. It
sounds a lot like FS's JAWS Scripts, don't you think.
I think we should bprevent this from happening before it gets out of
hand. Too many developers will take that as the easy way out.
Regards,
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Yep. Sure is..
Regards,
Alex,
On 9-Jun-09, at 8:42 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
> where did you see the demo? are you talking about the IPhone guided
> tour on the apple site? I don't think that would be the voice, but
> maybe.
> On 9-Jun-09, at 8:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi
where did you see the demo? are you talking about the IPhone guided
tour on the apple site? I don't think that would be the voice, but
maybe.
On 9-Jun-09, at 8:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The voice on the phone is Victoria because of her great workings with
> low RAM systems. She
Hi,
I paid a hundred or so more for my Macbook because my LAN tech ordered
it with twice the RAM and I am sure glad he did.
Maybe this is it.
Regards,
Alex,
On 9-Jun-09, at 10:54 AM, Justin Harford wrote:
>
> I find this both Scandalous that they would make blind people pay them
> to "cust
Hi,
The voice on the phone is Victoria because of her great workings with
low RAM systems. She is the English US Candidate it seems.
I saw this in a demo.
Regards,
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Hi,
The criteria is that TomTom wants exclusive rights to Turn by Turn
directions.
So they have them.
Regards,
Alex,
On 9-Jun-09, at 4:44 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>>
>> I thought I heard that GPS like we need will never be a possibil
I will have one the nineteenth no matter the carrier.
Pete
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Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice over come
Good evening,
Does anyone know if the virtual numpad has returned to the new
generation Macbook keyboards?
Thanks,
Everett
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They also did not mention the numpad commander, which makes navigation
10 times easier. Granted, you can't do that on a laptop, but when
using a desktop keyboard, it's a great help.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:54 PM, James Dietz wrote:
>
> Nearly everything they point out is negative. It's almost as
I agree. You may use more keystrokes on a mac, but a sighted user is
going to also need to scroll the screen etc. It seems like when they
did this review, if it didn't do things the way a windows screen
reader does, then it's unfortunate. Even if many blind users have used
windows, so what
Really? I know FS is one of the key sponsers of the convention, but
does that really mean they have an agenda? I can almost believe it, as
like I said it really wasn't so much a debate of pros and cons as it
was a list of cons. I don't want to help escolate this into a flame
war, but I am curious
They have FS and other companies in there pockets, so they have to
discredit someone else.
Mike
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:54 PM, James Dietz wrote:
>
> Nearly everything they point out is negative. It's almost as if
> they're deliberately skipping over what the screenreader does well so
> that they
They probably won't say anything right now but good sources from there
have said they would carry it. We'll just have to see what happens.
Mike
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 PM, peter Apgar wrote:
>
> Sorry all to be the barer of bad news, I just hung up with VZ
> sales. Per
> my discussion VZ
Nearly everything they point out is negative. It's almost as if
they're deliberately skipping over what the screenreader does well so
that they can get right to the bad stuff. My favorite has to be the
section where they discuss using voiceover with the internet - while
there are some legitimate
Hi,
I am posting this for the use of anyone out there wanting to move
their whole PC to a Mac, at least Filewise.
Take them both into an Apple Store, and it will be looked after by a
genius.
Regards,
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Hi,
I am posting this for the use of anyone out there wanting to move
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Take them both into an Apple Store, and it will be looked after by a
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Hi,
I can't believe it. My first day back on the job as an accessibility
consultant after nearly a year is next Wednsday, the same day the
iPhone firmware is released. I work in an environment where just about
every employee has an iPhone, so I am sure I'll be able to borrow one
of my fel
Hi,
I am posting this for the use of anyone out there wanting to move
their whole PC to a Mac, at least Filewise.
Take them both into an Apple Store, and it will be looked after by a
genius.
Regards,
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I suppose some people that live in Sanfrancisco might want the on site
installation and the like. The important thing if you were going to buy from
them is whether or not they are authorized for service by Apple so if you
need repair you can get it, should they not be around some day down the
Hi John:
Thanks for the tidbits. I have just downloaded and installed Acqlite.
You can go in the preferences and configure where to put your files
and the like and it's fairly accessible.
Thanks AGN:
Mike
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Hi John:
Thanks for the tidbit. LOL
I have it downloaded and installed.
If you go under the preferences, you can configure where to save your
imcomeplete files, your completed ones and as well configure your
bandwidth.
Many thanks again:
Mike
On 9-Jun-09, at 10:46 PM, John J Herzog wrote:
Sorry all to be the barer of bad news, I just hung up with VZ sales. Per
my discussion VZ will not be carrying the I phone. ATT is still the only
company.
Pete
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wanger
I've never heard of such restrictions on the iPhone. Apple had
restricted GPS functionality on the previous versions of the iPhone
but those have been lifted. The company that showed their application
yesterday was TomTom. I suspect this application is geared to drivers
and not people like
Scott,
In a couple of previous messages you've said that the iPhone will be
on the Verizon network. I'm not sure about the validity of what you
are saying. Apple and at&t have an exclusive contract. The length of
this contract isn't really clear and, in light of some things said
yesterday
To throw some more fuel on this discussion, Apple tends to be a
company that plans ahead and has a road map in terms of where it is
going. Wouldn't you think that they knew that over time they
anticipated adding voice over to the iPhone? And, we know that VO was
on the Mac for a few years
Hi Mike.
You can try acqlite. Although far from perfect, this is the most VO
friendly p2p client I've found. Email me if you want directions on how
to use it. I'll only post a brief set here.
First, after launching acqlite, interact with the toolbar. Look for
where it says search for files.
I wonder if there is any advantage to using web kit with regard to
accessibility now instead of safari 4?
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From: "Maxwell Ivey Jr."
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:16 PM
Subject: first effect of safari 4
>
> Hello group; I too just installed safari 4. I am al
For me, that's why I'd want to add Mobile Geo versus getting the trekker
breeze for the same price. I played around with a friend's breeze once, but
I just don't have people to take it around and program up places I might
consider going if I knew what the route it makes might be like.
- Or
Oy. Go listen to the WWDC keynote already.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
> What, there's a feature in OSX to run an app I download through to
> fix most
> of the accessibility issues? I wish that effects panel in Audio
> Hijack Pro
> could be fixed so I could record podca
What, there's a feature in OSX to run an app I download through to fix most
of the accessibility issues? I wish that effects panel in Audio Hijack Pro
could be fixed so I could record podcasts using both the mic and VO without
having to resort to time compression/expansion to make both files th
Oh, I remember hearing that on Leo Laporte's show that because of the maps
they used that it wasn't allowed for Google to do it and that Apple didn't
approve Tom Tom because of it. Maybe they finally got over that, or that
could've been something in the early days.
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Hi Esther,
I'm new to Safari 4. Does your statement "used to" mean that I no
longer need to update web kit?
Thanks,
Brett
On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Esther wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I don't know whether this will help, but try using VO-H and check
> whether there's a description. If that
Hi everyone, I hope all is well.
Just thought I would come in with my side of what all this is about.
I think the idea of apple providing a mobile solution for the blind is
wonderful. It just provides another choice for those with mobile
accessibility needs. Choice is really what it is all
Try reading the text on the radio buttons with VO+H. If it doesn't
work, try VO+L.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Michael Reiser wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Just wanted to report that vo doesn't seem to read text under some
> radio buttons. An example of this is my school. They use a thing
> calle
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
> I thought I heard that GPS like we need will never be a possibility
> with the
> maps program it comes with. I thought Apple is contractually
> obligated to
> stop short of turn by turn directions and not approve apps that do it.
Dunno wh
I thought I heard that GPS like we need will never be a possibility with the
maps program it comes with. I thought Apple is contractually obligated to
stop short of turn by turn directions and not approve apps that do it.
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From: "Larry Wanger"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, J
Hi Mike,
I don't know whether this will help, but try using VO-H and check
whether there's a description. If that doesn't work, try downloading
one of the recent WebKit nightly builds from:
http://nightly.webkit.org/
WebKit is the underlying engine for Safari and some other web
browsers.
Hello all,
Just wanted to report that vo doesn't seem to read text under some
radio buttons. An example of this is my school. They use a thing
called desire to learn. I just went to go take a quiz for class, but
all vo says for the choices is 1 radio button, 2 radio button, 3 radio
but
You can use uTorrent. It's a Bittorrent client and it's completely
accessible with VO. I use it and am really happy with it.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Mike wrote:
>
> Hi all:
>
> Anyone know of a VO accessible P2P file sharing program for music and
> the like.
> I tried the latest LimeWire an
I'm a conservative grumpy old man, and I just bought a talks enabled
phone. I'm glad that apple is doing something about this but won't
even consider an iphone product until such time as it's time to trade
in or if my phone stops providing services I really need. I'm glad to
know however t
Hello group; I too just installed safari 4. I am always nervous when
updating. But the first change I noticed is on my own website. I
have a translate script on it. Before now vo just said button as i
tabbed through. To know which language choice i was on I had to use
the vo plus h.
I've been staying away from the beta, but it appears that the official
Safari 4 is released. My Mac just updated, and the problems in Mail I
had with my brief trial with the beta don't seem to be present.
Brett
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It does work, will work, and blind people will have no problems using
the iPhone. I know for fact this is the case and I have gotten
confirmation from a source. Point is, like anything, there may be a
learning curve, but it will work and it will be up to you to determine
if it fits your ne
On Jun 8
Dear Mitchell,
Thank you for your reply. I am glad that you had a wonderful
experience. Have a wonderful day.
Blessings,
Ben King, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Mitchell Smith wrote:
>
> I also visited the university village Apple store when I was in
> Seattle late
> last year and found the
Hi all:
Anyone know of a VO accessible P2P file sharing program for music and
the like.
I tried the latest LimeWire and the problems persist with it. Crashing
and so on.
TNX all:
Mike
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I think the customization they are talking about is more geared toward
businesses etc. and installing possibly windows and the like. They
aren't selling the machines for more than you could purchase it
elsewhere. Yeah, I did a little digging around and they don't make a
habit of selling to
This GWP sounds great. But it seems to fulfill my friend's dream and
not mine. I want something portable that I can use to scan any object
or image, say a box of food at the grocery store or a hard copy map,
and feel it tactually. Sounds like this thing is confined to the
computer. Taking this
Go to www.lioncourt.com and you will find it. There is an article
about it on the home page, with links to the Apple website.
I
On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
> do you have the link for that page?
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Read the iPhone page on the apple accessibility website. It will
answer your questions.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
> does anyone have the info on the official release notes for it?
> Does it work currently, and i would guess it would come with the
> iphone?
> Also, how would
On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
> do you have the link for that page?
It's only been posted a zillion times. This maks a zillion and one, I
guess:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
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Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone
Read the iPhone page on t
I find this both Scandalous that they would make blind people pay them
to "customize" an imac, and flattering that they would consider
marketing an imac at all.
http://www.rla.com/
Cl
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I find this both Scandalous that they would make blind people pay them
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http://www.rla.com/
Click on the store link, and there is another link "request quote for
mac systems"
Regards
Justin Harford
does anyone have the info on the official release notes for it?
Does it work currently, and i would guess it would come with the iphone?
Also, how would someone work the keyboard since it has a touch screen.
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I'd like to learn more about them. Email me offlist so we don't
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On 09/06/2009, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
> http://www.handytech.us/ht.html#gwp
>
> On 09/06/2009, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm sorry to rain on your parade, (I'm known for doing that):-) but
Hey tell them they really should reconsider and have a look at fixing
this After all, even Amazon's download manager is fully accessible.
Maybe if you tell them that, they will listen.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:17 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
> I never thought the old one was that bad. At least I
Really? You must've had an older one than I did, or anyway, a
different one; I could never access any of that stuff!
On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:17 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
> I never thought the old one was that bad. At least I could see the
> list of downloads, clear completed ones, check the st
Hi,
Is Skype 2.8 the latest version for the mac? I downloaded and
installed it from skype.com. When I add a contact, the person that I
am adding does not see me in their list because skype is not prompting
me to allow them to see my details. Does anybody know why this isn't
happening? Any
I never thought the old one was that bad. At least I could see the
list of downloads, clear completed ones, check the status to make sure
all the files in a set were complete. That much used to be perfectly
accessible at any rate.
Ah well...
erik burggraaf
A+ sertified technician and us
Yep, they've wrecked it, but at least, I've never seen a version that
wasn't wrecked. The last version I had before this one was similarly
VO-unfrienldy.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:04 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
> Hi guys, has any one looked at the new emusic download manager and
> thought, "e
Well I've heard it would be supported, but the question is when. Guess
I need to call Verizon Wireless. I'm actually do for an upgrade and so
I might just have to get one as soon as it is available.
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Yeah and it wouldn't cost $895, which quite frankly is a bit expensive
in my opinion. And no, I'm not bashing anyone or Code Factory etc. I
see the benefits of the software and for some $895 is well worth every
dime and I can't argue that point. My hope is that maybe other options
will bec
Hi guys, has any one looked at the new emusic download manager and
thought, "ew" to themselves? To me it looks like the only thing
in the window besides the menu bar is a vertical scroll bar. The only
reason I know anything is happening is because the files are coming
in. I can live
I might be wrong, but Mac OS X has been around for quite a long time
now, and it is possible to create Mac compatible apps without using
the Cocoa framework. This is were I might really be wrong, but from
what I heard yesterday from the WWDC keynote, and from what I've read,
developers who
I missed this earlier. Cmd-backspace isn't the right keystroke. And
command-left arrow has, for me anyway, only worked intermittently. The
command you want is cmd-left bracket (to the right of the p).
BTW, most keyboard commands for an app can be found in the menus as
well. Most of the time
Hi, Everything is working fine now. thanmk you again. my next step
is to inport all of my music and contacts as well as files from my pc.
Matthew
On 6/6/09, Charlie Doremus wrote:
> Correct, power button located in top-right corner on mini just above the
> power cord connection. Good luck
Yeah, it's funny how Apple employees are always so willing to learn
about VO. None of the ones I've talked to at the store knew how
VoiceOver works, and some of them thought that it wasn't really usable
by an actual blind person, yet. Just as a joke, after talking to one
of them, I turned
It's going to take early adopters to make it better, so I guess we
should thank those that rush out and get one smiles.
Mike
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:00 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
> Hi Larry, I don't think any of it is impossible. I'd be really
> surprized if it wasn't in the works somewhere al
Definitely excited. Voiceover rocks on this mac and I'm sure it'll
rock on the iphone. I'll definitely be looking forward to tutorials
on it and podcasts. Also looking forward to snow lepard.
Mike
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>
> yeah I know. exactly. although the
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> YOU ARE MISSING THE FEATURE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FIX APPLICATIONS THAT
> ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE.
...Which I only saw mention of in the OS X section, not in the iPhone
section. Not to say it won't be possible. And this feature likely
w
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Michael Reiser wrote:
>
> The new iphone will be supported on varizon, which is cdma.
I've seen you post this assertion twice, but I've seen it announced
nowhere except in the rumor mill. Care to give some corroborating
links on this?
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Jessi and list,
I'm totally in the same boat as far as wanting to be one of the
first. I never have been the first on the band wagon, but man would
it be cool! I have been frequenting the Apple store here in Manhattan
enough so that the employees are starting to recognize me, so be
HI,
YOU ARE MISSING THE FEATURE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FIX APPLICATIONS THAT
ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE.
REGARDS,
ALEX,
On 9-Jun-09, at 5:56 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
> Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll
> end up with the exact same situation you have on every other
Hi Larry, I don't think any of it is impossible. I'd be really
surprized if it wasn't in the works somewhere already actually. It's
going to take really firm development on it to get me to switch.
Besides, I read oh, 20/30 messages this morning from wow'm zow'm
enthusiasts who were goi
The same thing is about to happento our beloved Symbian. Of all the
apps i've tried to install on my E66, some have workt partially but
most have never worked at all, and now, even programs that come with
the phone, such as Calendar and in some cases the mail app has stopped
working and i
oh I know!!! it's amazing the mac may not be for everybody, but it
is most certainly for me!!
On 9-Jun-09, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
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> 9 jun 2009 kl. 09.41 skrev Jessi and Goldina:
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>> oh, such an exciting time to be a mac user!
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> I couldn't agree more. I'm so glad i
tried that and that doesn't work.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Larry Wanger wrote:
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> Try command with backspace instead.
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> On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
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>> Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with
>> command left arrow, it doesn't go back like
yeah, I think it was always command. I've been using that key to go
back forever!!
On 9-Jun-09, at 5:39 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
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> Wasn't it always command [? I've used that keystroke ever since
> Safari 3 actually, noticed that was the shortcut for going back that
> was announced by VO in g
try command left bracket. the one to the right of the p.
On 9-Jun-09, at 7:10 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
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> tried that and that doesn't work.
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> On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Larry Wanger wrote:
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>> Try command with backspace instead.
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>> On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
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