HI, YOU ARE MISSING THE FEATURE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FIX APPLICATIONS THAT ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE.
REGARDS, ALEX, On 9-Jun-09, at 5:56 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll > end up with the exact same situation you have on every other platform > where a screenreader exists, its going to be down to the developers to > make there applications accessable. > To be honest, using a touch screen is nice, knowing where abouts > things are on the screen is nice, but it'll be the developers of the > third party apps that will diside if the i phone has a strong > following in the blind communitty or not. > > > On 09/06/2009, Dan Eickmeier <va3...@yahoo.ca> wrote: >> >> And what about that gps application that was demonstrated as part of >> the WWDC keynote. All the developer of that would have to do is make >> that accessible with VO on the iPhone? I'm assuming? >> On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: >> >>> >>> And, you've made the point. You have more choices and the main >>> drivers >>> behind your decision aren't what's accessible to you in the phone >>> market, its what phone offers you what you need. And that my >>> friend is >>> what this is all about. You have another choice. >>> >>> Just as an FYI, you don't need iTunes once you get this set up. You >>> need iTunes to get speech and other accessibility functions >>> working on >>> the phone for sure. But, after that, all bets are off. I know for a >>> fact that there are 3rd party products out there that can allow >>> you to >>> sync your iPhone without ever using iTunes. In fact, I use one of >>> those 3rd party products to sync up my Samsung right now. So, iTunes >>> is not required. >>> >>> A BRF/Daisey reader, in due time I suspect. I'm sure that will >>> happen. >>> Like anything else, a developer just needs to step forward and do >>> it. >>> >>> GPS solution for the blind? Who says that MobileGeo couldn't be >>> written for the OS/phone platform? And, like the Windows based >>> phones, >>> I'm sure that through blue tooth you could use an independent GPS >>> receiver as most of us do now. >>> >>> It is interesting that they don't mention Braille and I wonder about >>> that feature as well. I don't use it but could see that being of >>> value. So, maybe its in the works. >>> >>> However, nothing you've thrown out here seems impossible and, just >>> like everyone else, you have a choice about what platform and phone >>> you use. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:19 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi guys, I have to admit, when I read this, the sweat started >>>> pouring >>>> and the hart started thumping. It was better than my third cup of >>>> coffee in the morning which I'm still looking forward to with some >>>> anticipation, smiles. Speaking of which, one sec while I go pour >>>> the >>>> second one... >>>> >>>> OK, So here's why I won't be tossing my mobile speak pocket licence >>>> in >>>> the trash any time soon. >>>> >>>> First, I'm a scronnie, crabbie, and none too good-looking blind >>>> man. >>>> An IPhone won't get me more girls, put 10 pounds of muscle on me in >>>> exactly the right preportions, or make me a nicer person. So >>>> forget >>>> it for the time being at least. >>>> >>>> So far, we have no braille display support. I haven't read >>>> anything >>>> about a fully featured gps solution for the IPhone which I have to >>>> have, or a brf reader which I don't have to have, but will use on >>>> ocasion. So it's really exciting to see the support coming along. >>>> I'd love to fly down to the apple store and play with one for >>>> half an >>>> hour. But I really use braille on my phone, and I really use a gps >>>> system, and I won't be replacing my current set up until these >>>> features are tested and true. >>>> >>>> So forgetting all the software you don't get, look at what you do >>>> get... ITunes. You need ITunes to sync your calendar and >>>> contacts? ...seriously? What happened to ISync? Forget it. I >>>> can't >>>> wait to get rid of my IPod, because the software I tried to replace >>>> ITunes for syncing my music doesn't work and I'm sick of the whole >>>> mess. Why would I want to buy another device that forces me to >>>> ITunes >>>> to sync my calendar and contacts? No thank you. ITunes is getting >>>> the old command option delete as soon as this IPod is gone. Not >>>> that >>>> I have anything against the IPod. It's a beautiful machine. My >>>> only >>>> problems with it are that it dumps my library every time the >>>> battery >>>> dies, and ITunes crashes whenever it tries to sync. Oh, and ITunes >>>> doesn't update my library properly, and it won't let me change the >>>> settings for ripping/encoding cd's, and it corupts my library every >>>> three months or so and makes me start all over again, and it >>>> fills my >>>> screen with all kinds of clutter I don't need, and Oh yeh, I >>>> generally >>>> hate being forced into using software that I don't like... Fwew! >>>> >>>> So basicly I'll wait till I can have the functionality that I >>>> have on >>>> my I-Paq, especially gps navigation, braille support, and copy and >>>> paste file transfers. >>>> >>>> Another thing the IPhone didn't have previously which I hope >>>> they've >>>> fixed now is cdma support. It's got to have cdma support to be >>>> really >>>> viable here where CDMA is king. I'm using gsm, and would be more >>>> ore >>>> less happy with it if my carrier didn't lie to me, price gouge me, >>>> and >>>> go behind my back at every turn. I am counting down the days >>>> left on >>>> my contract so I can cut my rediculous sell phone bill. There are >>>> way >>>> more CDMA carriers here than gsm though, in fact there are only two >>>> gsm carriers here and they are both owned by the same company which >>>> is >>>> universally hated here. It's not just me this time. So, we have >>>> to >>>> have cdma support if we want to make the IPhone attractive to the >>>> %75 >>>> of us who don't use a gsm carrier here in ontario, and probably the >>>> rest of canada as well. Right now, the only supported platform >>>> that >>>> runs on CDMA unless the new IPhone comes with CDMA support is >>>> windows >>>> mobile and mobile speak pocket/smartphone. So that's what >>>> technology >>>> companies here are going to keep selling. When orator and the >>>> blackberry support comes it's going to be CDMA supported as well, >>>> and >>>> so we might go with that for people who don't want advanced screen >>>> reader features. >>>> >>>> It is nice to see the stride finally taken in this area though. >>>> Apple >>>> accessibility is making finominal products, but the detracters will >>>> never stop complaining that this that or the other device isn't >>>> accessible, so Apple must be falling behind on it's committments or >>>> they aren't really serious. It's not for me, but I bet a number of >>>> people who don't mind gsm carriers are going to be thrilled and it >>>> would be fun to get one for demo purposes. >>>> >>>> Have fun, >>>> >>>> erik burggraaf >>>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. >>>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>>> >>>> On 8-Jun-09, at 4:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read. >>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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