On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > > > Anyway, to illustrate what I mean, look at this link:
> > > > http://www.baen.com/chapters/W29/0671319590___2.htm
> > > >
> > > > The first italic word is in the 4th paragraph, and the next in the 5th,
> > > > and then in the 7th.
> >
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 03:41:47PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> > > > Yes, I run into this regularly myself. But that's just the usual 2 point
> > > > box space acculmulated by nested boxes... Maybe going down to 1 would
> > > > help already..
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > > Yes, I run into this regularly myself. But that's just the usual 2 point
> > > box space acculmulated by nested boxes... Maybe going down to 1 would
> > > help already...
> >
> > I'm not sure if I was clear enough, but I was worried that we might ge
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:46:35PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:19:16PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > > > > You need to fix your window manager? SCNR
> > > >
> > > > Indeed. Save a few small changes I use
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:19:16PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > > > You need to fix your window manager? SCNR
> > >
> > > Indeed. Save a few small changes I use the same configuration as 14
> > > years ago.
> >
> > ok... and all new WM featur
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:18:34AM +0100, Andre Poenitz spake thusly:
> On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Kuba Ober wrote:
> > Oh yes, then certainly it will work like that. Another way of doing it is
> > instead of having character style insets just have character style flags and
> > h
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Kuba Ober wrote:
> Oh yes, then certainly it will work like that. Another way of doing it is
> instead of having character style insets just have character style flags and
> have the core do the job. I.e. have "bold on" and "bold off" flags.
This does no
On Sunday 07 December 2003 06:53 am, you wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 03:03:42PM -0500, Kuba Ober wrote:
> > There will also be some constraints as to how far a character style can
> > go. I imagine we will artificially need to terminate all character
> > styling at the end of the paragraph, ot
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:10:29PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> > BTW is it possible to get rid of the space at the beginning of a char style
> > inset?
>
> Apparently this has more than one source. One part of the problem is that the
> insettext inside the i
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:19:16PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > > You need to fix your window manager? SCNR
> >
> > Indeed. Save a few small changes I use the same configuration as 14
> > years ago.
>
> ok... and all new WM features since then are just crap? ;)
Maybe it's just their d
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 03:03:42PM -0500, Kuba Ober wrote:
> There will also be some constraints as to how far a character style can go. I
> imagine we will artificially need to terminate all character styling at the
> end of the paragraph, otherwise it'll be an uncontainable mess. This may
> a
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:10:29PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller spake thusly:
>
> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> > BTW is it possible to get rid of the space at the beginning of a char style
> > inset?
>
> Apparently this has more than one source. One part of the problem is that the
> insettext in
> Insets are an appropriate means for structured editing but they are not
> suitable for writing consecutive text. If I had had to insert an inset
> for every emphasized term, for every capitalized product name, for every
> keyword in typewriter font, and for every figure reference in sans serif
>
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:46:15PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:53:04PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
>
> > Note: Isn't it overkill drawing something that's emphasized using a box
> > AND (e.g.) italics? We don't want to flood the user with visual info.
>
> Inte
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> BTW is it possible to get rid of the space at the beginning of a char style
> inset?
Apparently this has more than one source. One part of the problem is that the
insettext inside the inset has indended paragraph if the document uses
paragraph indendation.
Jürgen
Martin Vermeer wrote:
> Committed. I fixed one more bug: now the labelfont definition is
> actually used for the label (blue default font for all styles; twice
> reduced). Also the underline (now having two little end hooks) takes
> the label's colour.
Looks very promising!
I found one bug though.
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:54:58PM +0200, Martin Vermeer spake thusly:
> Patch attached. As I haven't heard any real objections (just blue-sky
> ideas building on it) I'll commit later today.
Committed. I fixed one more bug: now the labelfont definition is
actually used for the label (blue defau
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:53:04PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > With the ERT inset (in textEd) for instance, this is not really a problem
> > since you have the visual "barrier" (box) that you pass through.
>
> Well, the idea of all-boxes is
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:53:04PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> With the ERT inset (in textEd) for instance, this is not really a problem
> since you have the visual "barrier" (box) that you pass through.
Well, the idea of all-boxes is to have that barrier for each change.
> > Because C
Michael Schmitt wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Martin> Talking about looks, see the attached.
Looks good, Martin!
|some contents here|
name
This would reduce the height of the inset...
You can even do
some contents here
\---name-/
and avoi
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> It may well be that most of the biting comes from that unholy 'toggle
> emphasize on a whole word' feature but I had this deactivated for a
> while in my tree and I seem to remember that the problem was not
> entirely gone.
That was actually the first th
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:30:20AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > For formulas, I want very fine-grained control of 'where' the cursor is,
> > so the 2-cursor approach is useful, even if it sometimes feels like you
> > are pressing the left/rig
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:13:03PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> Are you thinking of a special situation here? (could you give an example)
If I knew what's the exact situation I'd probably have tried to change
that. It just bites from time to time.
It may well be that most of the biting c
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > And that's not because that's the natural way with the all-boxes
> > approaches but because it's the way I think of the text markup. And
> > not being sure whether I am inside or outside makes me uncomfortable.
>
> Are you thinking of a specia
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:30:20AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> For formulas, I want very fine-grained control of 'where' the cursor is,
> so the 2-cursor approach is useful, even if it sometimes feels like you
> are pressing the left/right arrows way to often. For normal text, I think
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:15:10AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Andre> Personally, having the two logicaly positions (just before some
> > Andre> change/at the beginning of a ch
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Martin Vermeer wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:30:20AM +0100, Christian Ridderström spake thusly:
>
> > How about modes for controlling if markup borders (i.e. insets?) should be
> > shown, these could be:
> > * Don't show any boxes etc
> > * Only show box of the
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:30:20AM +0100, Christian Ridderström spake thusly:
> How about modes for controlling if markup borders (i.e. insets?) should be
> shown, these could be:
> * Don't show any boxes etc
> * Only show box of the inset(s) that the cursor is in
> * Show all
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:19:29AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes spake thusly:
> Isn't it possible to have this code in InsetCollapsable? My though is
> that we should try to limit the number of possible appearance of
> insets rather than have each inset invent something.
>
> I think that all ins
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:17:34PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote:
> > Dear Martin et al.,
> >
> > do you need some more comments? Ok, here are mine :-)
> >
> > > box removing by
I find this function _very_ useful in mathed, but difficult to discover :-
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:19:29AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Martin> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:02:19AM +0200, Martin Vermeer spake
> Martin> thusly:
> >> I tightened up the thing a little bit. The patch is attached.
> >>
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:15:10AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Andre> Personally, having the two logicaly positions (just before some
> Andre> change/at the beginning of a change) is _the_
>
> _the_ what?
... thing that anno
On Friday 05 December 2003 09:19, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
> I think that all insets in inline mode would benefit from this
> representation (think of ERT).
I agree.
> JMarc
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> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:02:19AM +0200, Martin Vermeer spake
Martin> thusly:
>> I tightened up the thing a little bit. The patch is attached.
>>
>> I think this is such a clear improvement on what we had, that this
>> should
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> Personally, having the two logicaly positions (just before some
Andre> change/at the beginning of a change) is _the_
_the_ what?
We could have a solution where there is only one position in general,
but we have a lfun that switche
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 07:14:18PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote:
> Talking about looks, see the attached.
Still a bit intrusive ...
> I need to do some cleaning on the patch still, but this works, and not
> just sort-of. What is unelegant about it is that it still bases
> CharStyle on Collapsable
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:17:34PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote:
> Dear Martin et al.,
>
> do you need some more comments? Ok, here are mine :-)
>
> > Yes, box removing by is 'direct manipulation' according to
> > this definition.
>
> > Nobody, not a single person! complained about this since 1
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:02:19AM +0200, Martin Vermeer spake thusly:
>
> I tightened up the thing a little bit. The patch is attached.
>
> I think this is such a clear improvement on what we had, that this
> should go in as it stands, despite small quirks (which I am not even
> sure have to d
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:25:24PM +0100, Michael Schmitt spake thusly:
> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
> > Martin> Talking about looks, see the attached.
>
> Looks good, Martin!
>
> >
> > |some contents here|
> > name
> >
> > This would reduce the height
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Martin> Talking about looks, see the attached.
Looks good, Martin!
|some contents here|
name
This would reduce the height of the inset...
You can even do
some contents here
\---name-/
and avoid the frame altogether.
Ha
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:55:40PM +, John Levon spake
Martin> thusly:
>> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:17:34PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote:
>>
>> > Shouldn't we concentrate on bug fixing rather than starting new
>> projects?
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 07:14:18PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote:
> Talking about looks, see the attached.
Looks good
regards
john
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On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:55:40PM +, John Levon spake thusly:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:17:34PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote:
>
> > Shouldn't we concentrate on bug fixing rather than starting new projects?
>
> I think we're all agreed that the current char style stuff (modulo some
> min
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:11:06PM +0100, Michael Schmitt spake thusly:
>
> Michael Schmitt wrote:
>
> > John Levon wrote:
> >
> >> I think we're all agreed that the current char style stuff (modulo some
> >> minor changes in the way the insets look) should stay as is for now.
>
> > Which char
Michael Schmitt wrote:
John Levon wrote:
I think we're all agreed that the current char style stuff (modulo some
minor changes in the way the insets look) should stay as is for now.
> Which char styles are supported at the moment?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/lyx-devel-1.4.0-devel/lib/layouts> grep Char
On Thursday 04 December 2003 15:17, Michael Schmitt wrote:
> Dear Martin et al.,
>
> do you need some more comments? Ok, here are mine :-)
Good to hear.
> > Yes, box removing by is 'direct manipulation' according to
> > this definition.
> >
> > Nobody, not a single person! complained about
John Levon wrote:
Shouldn't we concentrate on bug fixing rather than starting new projects?
I think we're all agreed that the current char style stuff (modulo some
minor changes in the way the insets look) should stay as is for now.
That means existing documents will be converted?
Which char styl
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:17:34PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote:
> Shouldn't we concentrate on bug fixing rather than starting new projects?
I think we're all agreed that the current char style stuff (modulo some
minor changes in the way the insets look) should stay as is for now.
We're talking
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