Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-26 Thread Herve Autret
Hello Lyx people, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes replied : > Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Both of you are using UTF-8, but even the mailers seem not to agree about what is or what is not UTF-8. Isn't one diffrence between machines and men that we can choose when to break out behavior loops that could end up in

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Are you going to add a menu entry for each of the cases where we add >> buttons to our file dialog? > > Do we have more than this case where we have buttons in file dialogs > that don't appear on Windows and Mac? If so this is nothing I can > accept. That w

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > I still don't get it. Why can the custom file dialog buttons not removed > from the file dialog for Linux? Then we have the same file dialog for all > platforms, no matter how they will look on the different OS. Having a > button in one OS and not in others is confusing. I don't

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Besides the one in my last reply to this post, inconsistencies break our docs. How should I write a documentation about a feature that is not present under all OSes? (I have no Linux.) Having consistent dialogs makes also the life easier for writing documentations. We do n

Re: [Fwd: Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files]

2007-11-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Another opinion. I think there's a misunderstanding here. We never said this is not a problem. We just said that the problem is on the Windows and Mac platforms and that this is where there is something to cure, that's all. When this is solved (with buttons, url, or favorite

Re: [Fwd: Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files]

2007-11-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Pavel Sanda wrote: Debian but evidently is not the same on a Mac. She probably could have found them in the Mac filesystem with just a little more effort or competence, but she didn't. So, a few days later, I had to physically i have no opinion about the poor button in open dialog :), but i wo

Re: [Fwd: Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files]

2007-11-25 Thread Pavel Sanda
> Debian but evidently is not the same on a Mac. She probably could have > found them in the Mac filesystem with just a little more effort or > competence, but she didn't. So, a few days later, I had to physically i have no opinion about the poor button in open dialog :), but i wonder how people

[Fwd: Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files]

2007-11-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Another opinion. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Uwe, I am not a subscriber to lyx-devel, but I wanted to strongly agree with you this issue. You can forward this to your list if you like. For a long time, I have been trying to convince people to use LyX at my school. I use De

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Do we have more than this case where we have buttons in file dialogs that don't appear on Windows and Mac? If so this is nothing I can accept. That would mean a loss of functionality and I don't like to have a platform "priviledged", that's why I'm shouting so load for t

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: It would be pretty stupid to reduce the functionality of the Linux version just because the Windows version does not have a certain feature. Please read my other posts too, this would not be a reduction of functionality: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.or

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:13:42AM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: > >>> I still don't get it. Why can the custom file dialog buttons not >>> removed from the file dialog for Linux? >> Because they are useful? There are other cases than this Example >> button where this is

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:36:53AM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Andre Poenitz schrieb: > >>> OK, but what about using also the same file dialog on Linux as for Win >>> and Mac? The dialogs should definetively look the same on all platforms. >> That won't buy you new friends on neither Windows nor Mac

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
>> Then we have the same file dialog for all platforms, no matter how >> they will look on the different OS. Having a button in one OS and not >> in others is confusing. > Most people use one platform only. Those using more than one are > accustomed to all kind of inconsistencies. > > So what pro

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Bennett Helm
On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: For the mac there was a font problem wrt qt 4.3, I do not know what the status is. The font problem on Mac with Qt-4.3 was one of substituting a sans- serif font for Times, e.g. There currently is a workaround (using Times New Roman i

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Most people use one platform only. Those using more than one are accustomed to all kind of inconsistencies. So what problem are you actually trying to solve? That Linux users can easily click on a button to open example files and on Windows and Mac you can't. Therefo

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: OK, but what about using also the same file dialog on Linux as for Win and Mac? The dialogs should definetively look the same on all platforms. That won't buy you new friends on neither Windows nor Mac. People like "native" dialogs there. That's why I want to have the

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:42:09PM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > Well, it'd be a bit hard to have native dialogs look the same on all > > platform :-P > > I still don't get it. Why can the custom file dialog buttons not removed > from the file dialog for Linux? Why should they? They serve a purpose

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:06:11PM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: > >> The example button is here with our filedialog, but not with the >> native one on windows and on the mac. > > OK, but what about using also the same file dialog on Linux as for Win and > Mac? The dialog

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: I still don't get it. Why can the custom file dialog buttons not removed from the file dialog for Linux? Because they are useful? There are other cases than this Example button where this is used. I know that this button is useful but the same could be done usi

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Well, it'd be a bit hard to have native dialogs look the same on all >> platform :-P > > I still don't get it. Why can the custom file dialog buttons not > removed from the file dialog for Linux? Because they are useful? There are other cases than this Ex

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> Well, it'd be a bit hard to have native dialogs look the same on all > platform :-P I still don't get it. Why can the custom file dialog buttons not removed from the file dialog for Linux? Then we have the same file dialog for all platforms, no matter how they will look on the different OS. H

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: The example button is here with our filedialog, but not with the native one on windows and on the mac. OK, but what about using also the same file dialog on Linux as for Win and Mac? The dialogs should definetively look the same on all platforms

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The example button is here with our filedialog, but not with the >> native one on windows and on the mac. > > OK, but what about using also the same file dialog on Linux as for Win > and Mac? The dialogs should definetively look the same on all > platforms.

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: The example button is here with our filedialog, but not with the native one on windows and on the mac. OK, but what about using also the same file dialog on Linux as for Win and Mac? The dialogs should definetively look the same on all platforms. The new menu en

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Since LyX 1.5 we have no longer a button in the file open dialog to open >>> example files. >> >> ... on Windows. > > I don't think so, because the Tutorial stated this (until yesterday) > and it was the last time revised for LyX 1.2.x or LyX 1.3.x I think

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I attached a patch against trunk how to get this. take the attached corrected patch instead Index: lib/ui/stdmenus.inc === --- lib/ui/stdmenus.inc (revision 21744) +++ lib/ui/stdmenus.inc (working copy) @@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ Item "Ne

Re: [patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
> I don't think so i can confirm that examples button is in open dialog on linux. pavel

[patch] was: how to access LyX's example files

2007-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
>> Since LyX 1.5 we have no longer a button in the file open dialog to open >> example files. > > ... on Windows. I don't think so, because the Tutorial stated this (until yesterday) and it was the last time revised for LyX 1.2.x or LyX 1.3.x I think. > I'm not completely sure, but it looks to