Re: Please no justification :)

2008-08-18 Thread Will Robertson
On 18/08/2008, at 9:26 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: Second, wouldn't it be nice to have a document setting saying whether you would like to indent the first the first paragraph after a section heading. I don't know for English, but at least in Dutch it is common practice not to i

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-08-15 Thread Will Robertson
On 16/08/2008, at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Will Robertson wrote: In that case you absolutely shouldn't do \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}. Because that changes the font more than \usepackage{lmodern}. I guess that non-American writers will run into all sorts of trouble then (e.g.

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-08-15 Thread Will Robertson
On 16/08/2008, at 12:24 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: LyX should use by default the default font of the current class, which happens to be cm for the standard classes and many other classes, but could as well be something completely different. Okay, fair enough. In that case you absolutely

Re: mathpazo package options

2008-08-15 Thread Will Robertson
On 15/08/2008, at 9:22 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: When using mathpazo to select the Palatino font (which I was very happy to see you support), it > should almost certainly use the [sc] option to use better small caps and better kerning. You can add this by adding th

Re: Please no justification :)

2008-08-11 Thread Will Robertson
On 11/08/2008, at 8:37 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Will Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nope, the only classes I know of that fixes this (i.e., use ragged section headings) is memoir and koma-script: What is the situation now? Shall we fix memoir.layout and scr*.layout so tha

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-08-01 Thread Will Robertson
On 02/08/2008, at 2:53 AM, Enrico Forestieri wrote: LyX is quite versatile and you really don't need to write a class for including whatever you like by default. Thanks for the example. The point of the class, though, would be to include everything that I think people using the class want by

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-08-01 Thread Will Robertson
On 01/08/2008, at 5:21 PM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: You forgot to put the list in copy :-) !!! I wish they've never invented two equally valid but completely different ways to do ReplyTo in mailing lists. My reply is below: Will Robertson wrote: On 01/08/2008, at 4:49 PM, Abdel

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-07-31 Thread Will Robertson
Hi Uwe, On 01/08/2008, at 3:19 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > A beautiful default would be best. This is pain. CM are not beautiful? Beauty is a matter of taste, but to be objective, CM are very well designed. The only concrete thing that can be said here is that the LM fonts are an improvement

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-07-31 Thread Will Robertson
On 31/07/2008, at 11:10 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Will Robertson wrote: On 31/07/2008, at 11:00 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: for this you need to set hyperref settings in document otpions. in that case the preamble created by lyx will be of course more complex. I'm running v1.5.6, and I'

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-07-31 Thread Will Robertson
On 31/07/2008, at 11:04 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Enrico Forestieri wrote: The glyphs are the same, so that is not the point. The point is that LM fonts come in a vector (rather than bitmap) format making them more suitable to pdf output. but the main point i got from previous messages was be

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-07-31 Thread Will Robertson
On 31/07/2008, at 11:00 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: for this you need to set hyperref settings in document otpions. in that case the preamble created by lyx will be of course more complex. I'm running v1.5.6, and I've triple-checked, but I don't see any hyperref settings? Will smime.p7s De

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-07-31 Thread Will Robertson
Hi Enrico, I'm surprised, and happy, to hear that you use T1 only when possible. Thanks! Surely just checking for LM doesn't trigger installation under MiKTeX?! Instead of using kpsewhich, couldn't you just mechanically search for the actual files? (After all, you can get the base direc

Re: lyxmathsym

2008-07-31 Thread Will Robertson
On 31/07/2008, at 8:57 PM, Máté Salát wrote: Actually there are two other issues you could help how it is elegant to accomplish. In an environment like \text{...} is it possible (1) to make line break? (2) to open an inner math mode? No, and yes. For example how would you make the attached

Re: Please no justification :)

2008-07-30 Thread Will Robertson
(Resent to the list. Damn this Reply-To!) On 30/07/2008, at 5:18 PM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Will Robertson wrote: On 30/07/2008, at 4:01 PM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I confirm this bug. Could you please put this in bugzilla.lyx.org? Well, it's not so much a bug as a bad design dec

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-07-30 Thread Will Robertson
On 31/07/2008, at 8:08 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Will Robertson schrieb: Better output is relative, we can another font as well as default. No :) The LM fonts ARE better than the CM fonts. I meant something different. Sorry, I misunderstood. Why do you think we should especially use LM and

Re: lyxmathsym

2008-07-30 Thread Will Robertson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please, let's keep the discussion on the list. Sorry; all my other mailing lists use a different Reply-To so I'm still adjusting... Will P.S. I'm unaware of any excuse not to load the amstext package. It hardly doe

Re: CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-07-30 Thread Will Robertson
On 30/07/2008, at 7:18 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > I would highly recommend deprecating both AE & CM in favour of the LM fonts. This is no option. We provide support for all fonts if possible. It's the choice of the users what font he wants to use. True; I'd then suggest you should use LM as

Re: mathpazo package options

2008-07-30 Thread Will Robertson
Hi Uwe, On 30/07/2008, at 7:06 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > When using mathpazo to select the Palatino font (which I was very happy to see you support), it > should almost certainly use the [sc] option to use better small caps and better kerning. You can add this by adding the option "sc" to the

Re: Please no justification :)

2008-07-30 Thread Will Robertson
On 30/07/2008, at 4:01 PM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I confirm this bug. Could you please put this in bugzilla.lyx.org? Well, it's not so much a bug as a bad design decision. But note that this mirrors what LaTeX itself, erroneously, does by default. The option to remove paragraph justific

CM/AE/LM fonts

2008-07-29 Thread Will Robertson
Hi, I forgot to mention that the AE fonts are deprecated now; the Latin Modern fonts do everything they did and more. In fact, the LM fonts are much better than the CM fonts, too. I would highly recommend deprecating both AE & CM in favour of the LM fonts. They all look the same, although

mathpazo package options

2008-07-29 Thread Will Robertson
Hello again :) I hope you don't mind me posting things every now and then. Let me know if this isn't the best forum for it. When using mathpazo to select the Palatino font (which I was very happy to see you support), it should almost certainly use the [sc] option to use better small caps

Please no justification :)

2008-07-29 Thread Will Robertson
Hello, Coming from the LaTeX side of the fence, I've just fired up my first LyX document for a long long time. And was immediately struck by this: <> (I don't know if this mailing list supports image attachments.) If LyX is meant to not be a WYSIWYG editor, then I'd really recommend not

Re: drop support for xymatrix?

2008-07-27 Thread Will Robertson
On 24/07/2008, at 2:01 PM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: Some Journals class definitions clash with babel as well. There was a suggestion to have a "none (no-babel)" language", but I don't think it was never implemented. See: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2909 I once ran into an incon

Re: Minor LyX comments

2008-07-22 Thread Will Robertson
On 23/07/2008, at 12:55 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Will Robertson wrote: I've been meaning to pass on a few comments that I've collected over the years, but have hardly ever found the time. <http://willwont.blogspot.com/2008/07/problems-with-lyx-1.html> I took a look at Wil

Minor LyX comments

2008-07-22 Thread Will Robertson
Hi, I'm a LaTeX user that has to debug other people's LyX documents :) The work you guys do is great; every now and again I run into problems that perhaps could do with a fresh set of eyes, especially from the LaTeX side of the fence. Anyway, if it weren't for LyX then I doubt I'd be able