On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:32:44PM +0100, Asger Ottar Alstrup wrote:
> As the XP people say: You ain't gonna need it.
This is not only about XP but also about social engineering...
> Just do the obvious thing, rather than add an extra layer of indirection
> everywhere which serves nothing else t
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 04:47:52PM +0100, G. Milde wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> trying to use the lyxserver for a kind of scripting support, I came accross
> some troublespots.
Could you put that on bugzilla, too? Please.
Andre'
> Anyway, I am tackling FileInfo first... the Q is: do we really need
> it.
>
> The most advanced features of FileInfo is used by FileDialog.C in
> xforms, but that is just a monster and I see that basically all other
> file dialogs (gtk/qt/etc) are much simpler. So why not make it
> simpler.
>
>
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 12:42:37AM +, Andreas Vox wrote:
> John Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >
> ...
> > In short: calling a function "lyxbreaker" is a Bad Idea, as it
> > implies that this function somehow damages LyX. Better to call it
> > "lyxstopper" or "lyxbreakpt", the latter
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:54:32PM +, Andreas Vox wrote:
> When is it supposed to trigger?
Replace the lyxbreaker call with an (BOOST_)ASSERT and you'll see the
difference. I.e. none whatsoever. It's basically just an easy way to set
a breakpoint on 'all ASSERTS'.
If lyxbreaker is called, som
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:06:18AM +, John Levon wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:21:01AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
>
> > Besides I am the only one allowed to be personally attacked in this
> > forum.
>
> Oh come on, you must consider Andre here. (For which I'm a bit sorry...)
Loo
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:16:38AM +0100, Asger Ottar Alstrup wrote:
> John Weiss wrote:
> [A great opportunity to have a little flame-fest.]
>
> >Not FUD. Reality. [Long story about something irrelevant.]
> > Took them YEARS to get it to that state.
>
> Sad for them. I have a working LyX. It to
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 07:11:04AM -0500, John Weiss wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 02:38:54PM +, Angus Leeming wrote:
> >
> > Which means that it's dead easy to set a break point in gdb. Any entry
> > into lyxbreaker is automatically invalid, so stop there and have a look at
> > the execu
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 06:11:52PM +0100, Asger Ottar Alstrup wrote:
> Andre and others, which have a desire for working with a decent Windows
> toolchain, can then ask for the patches and them themselves.
Just to make my position clear: Having LyX work with a pure Windows
toolchain has no high p
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 12:31:44PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> int a[4];
> a+3 == a[3] == 3+a
You forgot the fun part: 3[a].
Andre'
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:12:42PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> So this isn't the case of a missing initialization of rows_?
>
> Shouldn't a paragraph _always_ have at least one row if it exists?
Not anymore. It used to be like that but nowadays there might be (lots
of) paragraph in the do
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:39:53PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> What verison of MSVS and/or MSVC++ are we planning to support?
MSVC++ 7.1 is the first thing in that series that qualifies as "C++
compiler" even if boost #define's around 'issues' of older versions So
this would be a good s
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 05:13:07PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Angus Leeming wrote:
> > Oh, if the file is meant to change only at predetermined times, then a
> > single line added to lyx_cb.C's Reconfigure would do the trick:
> >
> > LatexFeatures::getAvailable();
> >
> > no?
> >
> >
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> | On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> >
> >> | On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:21:01AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
> >
> >> >> Besides I am the only one allowed to be personally attacked in this
> >> >>
Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Then don't use them. And as you see in LyX we use these as little as
>> possible.
>
| Yes. Unfortunately one can't take the same approach for the preprocessor,
| at least for the include files.
If _that_ is you concern with the preprocessor the you have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
>> | On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:21:01AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
>
>> >> Besides I am the only one allowed to be personally attacked in this
>> >> forum.
>
| And how much trashing does it take to get you to enab
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> This is gcc 3.4.2 on FreeBSD 5.3, whic is supposed
| to
>> be current for some time.
>>
>> The question is to know whether we can disable
>> stdlib-debug for this compiler. Or whether we should
>> do it.
>
| I suppose such debug st
> and is there any heads up short of my updating my CVS tree and
watching for it?
Never mind this particular question. I found the lyx-cvs list which was
documented in the web pages if only I had bothered to read it.
Thanks
Rob
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> This is gcc 3.4.2 on FreeBSD 5.3, whic is supposed
to
> be current for some time.
>
> The question is to know whether we can disable
> stdlib-debug for this compiler. Or whether we should
> do it.
I suppose such debug stuff is only in the CVS
repository. When a fina
Hello,
www.lyx.org states that
"LyX runs on many Unix platforms, OS/2, and under Windows/Cygwin (this port
requires an X server). "
I think we should change this text because we no longer require an X server
on Windows.
Michael
Michael> Could you please fix this? AFAICS, config/pspell.m4 needs to
Michael> be fixed, doesn't it?
I agree that the help is wrong, however, I would propose to just get
rid of these options and use the pspell.m4 from 1.4.0cvs directly
instead.
Yes, sounds reasonable. IIRC, pspell support has been
I've applied Asger's MSVC patch
(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel/41102) but I'm having
problems with the Windows build under Visual Studio.NET 2003. I get a
bunch of failures trying to find certain *_moc.c files that didn't seem
to have been generated:
/echo on
-- Build started
I thought I'd post where I've got to with OS-independent child processes.
I decided to start from scratch, just so that I understand what's going on
and to try and make a clean, understandable design. I thought I'd also try
and write some docs explaining the design.
See here for the current stat
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Shall I apply it, or do you want to test it first?
Angus> I'll try and test it over the w/e if you like.
Thanks.
JMarc
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:12:03PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 13:37, Asger Ottar Alstrup wrote:
> > Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> > > int a[4];
> > > a+3 == a[3] == 3+a
> >
> > And surprisingly "3[a]" works as well!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Asger
>
> Yes, that *is* surprisin
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Sure, but the warning says what they have to do to install. Of course
> it would be better to work out a portable way to move this stuff to
> the right place, but I am lazy right now. Would "mv" do the job? Is it
> in msys (and can it move across volumes)?
Leave it. I
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Angus> Looks good to me, although there's a lot of repetition.
Repetition is due to two autoconf versions and two configure scripts.
Actually, things would be much simpler if we did kill reLyX' configure
script and include it in the main
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Angus> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: There is a third solution which you
> Angus> proposed a few days ago. Install into a directory path with no
> Angus> spaces and then move the entire bundle to its final
> Angus> destination.
>>> How would we 'move' it in a portable w
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Angus> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: There is a third solution which you
Angus> proposed a few days ago. Install into a directory path with no
Angus> spaces and then move the entire bundle to its final
Angus> destination.
>> How would we 'm
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:21:01AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
> >> Besides I am the only one allowed to be personally attacked in this
> >> forum.
And how much trashing does it take to get you to enable .htaccess
for the wiki? (So I can
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:
> 2. See Asger's take on *this* ML's historic netiquette:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel:40745
Ah... that would explain a lot. So, should this be added to:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/ListNetiquette
just in case some
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, G. Milde wrote:
> On 28.01.05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > The contents of figure floats is nothing special, so it is left-right
> > justified by default. Therefore, when including a graphics in there,
> > it should be centered by hand.
Yes, but I remember how annoying th
Jose' Matos wrote:
>> P.S. What about a Java frontend to LyX for true platform independence?
>
> Oh, you mean dependant, attached to another platform, java. Not even on
> Fridays we be believe in fairies, do you know?
It's true. I've never met a fairy that wanted to write 100 000 lines of
code ju
On Friday 28 January 2005 15:16, Andreas Vox wrote:
> P.S. What about a Java frontend to LyX for true platform independence?
Oh, you mean dependant, attached to another platform, java. Not even on
Fridays we be believe in fairies, do you know?
--
Josà AbÃlio
Lars Gullik BjÃnnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | I've been a happy Java Programmer for the last 7 years so I "missed" (*)
> | all this new C++ stuff like templates, namespaces, exceptions and rtti.
>
> Just by looking at java I feel strait-jacket
On 28.01.05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "John" == John Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> John> Yeah, I kinda figured that, Uwe. What I'm wondering is: are
> John> figure floats automatically left-justified? (That's what I meant
> John> by "LaTeX-ism".)
>
> The contents of figure flo
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| --disable-stdlib-debug solves the problem:
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel&m=110657975517441&w=2
Lars> I am leaning to letting that solve the problem, and be done with
Lars> it. Debug mode is after all only used on dev
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
| Lars> I am still a bit confused
>
| Lars> I need a tea-spoon
>
| OK, the initial message with the errors is here:
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel&m=110630812118047&w=2
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 15:44, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Angus> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> >> It seems sufficiently simple to be acceptable. I think we should
> >> work on the 1.4.0 integration first, though.
> >>
> >> One thing
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> I am still a bit confused
Lars> I need a tea-spoon
OK, the initial message with the errors is here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel&m=110630812118047&w=2
--disable-stdlib-debug solves the problem:
http://marc.theaim
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
| Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
"Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
| Lars> | Lars> Anything more you want to know? :-)
>>
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> Actually quite fine. I see your process there... not doing squat...
> You should probably restart it.
H. Not good.
$ time cvs -q up
8m53.081s
No obvious bottlenecks either.
$ traceroute baywatch.lyx.org
traceroute to baywatch.lyx.org (80.232.38.163), 30
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 01:27:29PM +, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Was it needed, or was it an example of a call to the 'false god of
> efficiency'?
The latter as far as I could tell... and no, it's staying anonymous :)
john
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Angus> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> It seems sufficiently simple to be acceptable. I think we should
>> work on the 1.4.0 integration first, though.
>>
>> One thing that I would like to see is using methods from the
>> graphics loader u
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Yes, and it might not be the end right now.
I think it will be.
Angus (who's about to get his arse in gear and commit the stuff he said
he'd commit on Monday.)
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Michael> Could you please fix this? AFAICS, config/pspell.m4 needs to
Michael> be fixed, doesn't it?
I agree that the help is wrong, however, I would propose to just get
rid of these options and use the pspell.m4 from 1.4.0cvs directl
> "Peter" == Peter J Braam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Peter> Hi, Just another thought:
Peter> I have no idea if Windows shortcuts can be accomodated easily,
Peter> it would be great if at least the Qt file browser could handle
Peter> them. Any ideas?
Hello,
A somewhat late answer: if the
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
Lars> | Lars> Anything more you want to know? :-)
>>
Lars> | Yes. What can we do about this poor freebsd compi
John Levon wrote:
> (Though I have seen real-life code that uses Duff's device...)
Urggg!
Was it needed, or was it an example of a call to the 'false god of
efficiency'?
--
Angus
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> It seems sufficiently simple to be acceptable. I think we should work
> on the 1.4.0 integration first, though.
>
> One thing that I would like to see is using methods from the graphics
> loader used for deciding whether the file is OK instead of
> QImageIO::imageForm
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 01:24:50PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
> (I have some code here that I work on now that uses it...)
My commiserations. (Though I have seen real-life code that uses Duff's
device...)
john
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The 1.4.0 current cvs patch follows.
Angus> I'll comment on it when I've had time to digest it.
>> Let me know if you want the patch for 1.3.5.
Angus> Jean-Marc's world.
It seems sufficiently simple to be acceptable. I think we shou
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 12:31:44PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
>
>> int a[4];
>> a+3 == a[3] == 3+a
>
| Hah, you missed the really fun one: 3[a]
Yeah.. quite fun
(no wonder why no sane C/C++ programmer exploits this.)
(I have some code here that I wo
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 13:37, Asger Ottar Alstrup wrote:
> Lars Gullik BjÃnnes wrote:
> > int a[4];
> > a+3 == a[3] == 3+a
>
> And surprisingly "3[a]" works as well!
>
> Regards,
> Asger
Yes, that *is* surprising.
In a previous life we had a Fortran IV compiler that (unintentionally)
allowed the
Dear John, I hope you find a solution to your job situation, and I'm
sure everything will work out for you.
We live in a big world, and the words are understood differently from
place to place, depending on your personal situation, the culture you
live in, how well you know the person at the ot
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 12:31:44PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
> int a[4];
> a+3 == a[3] == 3+a
Hah, you missed the really fun one: 3[a]
john
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
int a[4];
a+3 == a[3] == 3+a
And surprisingly "3[a]" works as well!
Regards,
Asger
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> "John" == John Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
| John> Yeah, I kinda figured that, Uwe. What I'm wondering is: are
| John> figure floats automatically left-justified? (That's what I meant
| John> by "LaTeX-ism".)
>
| The contents of figu
Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| I've been a happy Java Programmer for the last 7 years so I "missed" (*)
| all this new C++ stuff like templates, namespaces, exceptions and rtti.
Just by looking at java I feel strait-jacketed.
| A decent language shouldn't have a preprocessor, pointer
Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Jose' Matos wrote:
>> That us premature optimization Jürgen. :-)
>>
>> It is easier to simply clear the list since the effect is the same, there
>> is no need to consider the different cases. The code then becomes easier to
>> understand by anyo
Jose' Matos wrote:
> When I wrote that my wrist watch still showed 27, I have since then fixed
> it. I see you want a fight...
No. But I think there are quite a lot of good opportunities ATM.
Jürgen
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 09:01:04AM +, Angus Leeming wrote:
> > Super-glad to see Asger back into the fold. He can be a less hated me!!
> He's just got a thicker skin ;-) How the hell are you anyway?
Fine, insanity at work has mitigated into mere eccentricity. I might
even build a recent lyx s
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
>> This is the convert patch I am going to commit unless I hear a lot of
>> bad language.
>
| Is it Friday? Then you're cheating.
>
>> (There are some testing code that is not visible here that will also
>> be committed)
>
|
On Friday 28 January 2005 10:22, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
>
> P.S.: Isn't it Friday today?
When I wrote that my wrist watch still showed 27, I have since then fixed
it. I see you want a fight...
--
José Abílio
Jose' Matos wrote:
> That us premature optimization Jürgen. :-)
>
> It is easier to simply clear the list since the effect is the same, there
> is no need to consider the different cases. The code then becomes easier to
> understand by anyone. :-)
Really? OK, then I change that.
Jürgen
P.S.: I
Johnathan Burchill wrote:
> Howdy,
Howdy, Johnathan. It's good to have you back.
> A colleague asked me if there was anything that MS word could do well,
> that LyX couldn't, and all I could think of was drag-n-dropping image
> files into the document. That got me to thinking what it would take
John Weiss wrote:
> And avoiding muddy code in a Unix-Windows-crossplatform program will
> require a bit of work (in which I include careful planning). Which
> was the whole point of those cautioning posts of mine.
Oh, read the code, John, read the code.
There's a bit of hacking to do still in
On Friday 28 January 2005 08:52, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
>
> while in case (1) it is not necessary to clear the list (because it is
> already empty) it is necessary in (2). That's the reason why I added the
> check (to avoid redundant clearing in case 1, which is the more common
> one).
That
Jose' Matos wrote:
>> H. Any ideas on how best to tackle this?
>
> Add another argument for the relative depth, with 0 for lyx and 1 for
> tex2lyx?
>
> NormalizePath(AddPath(binary_dir, "../" * (depth + 1) + "lib"));
>
> I am not sure how serious this is. ;-)
Not bad actually. Not bad
Asger Ottar Alstrup wrote:
> To do what you are trying to do, just use this, provided you are using
> the multi-byte runtime:
Good man! Thanks.
--
Angus
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> This is the convert patch I am going to commit unless I hear a lot of
> bad language.
Is it Friday? Then you're cheating.
> (There are some testing code that is not visible here that will also
> be committed)
This is ancient history. path_defines.C.in has gone. Remo
John Weiss wrote:
>> John, with all due respect, you're starting to rant.
>
> Umm... Gee, maybe that's because, oh, I dunno, I'M FEELING PERSONALLY
> ATTACKED HERE?!
1. I didn't attack you. Try and get a thicker skin.
2. See Asger's take on *this* ML's historic netiquette:
http://article.gmane.o
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:21:01AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
>
>> Besides I am the only one allowed to be personally attacked in this
>> forum.
>
| Oh come on, you must consider Andre here. (For which I'm a bit sorry...)
Yeah, you broke Our law the
John Levon wrote:
> Anyway, Mr. Weiss needs to know I've long since taken his title of
> "Least Popular John".
Yeah, you took it, you bstd. Nobody offered it to you.
--
Angus
Andreas Vox wrote:
> BTW, does anyone know the type of the expression
> bind(&Impl::finishedGenerating, this, _1, _2)
No, but you don't need to either. You can store it in a
boost::function my_func =
bind(&Impl::finishedGenerating, this, _1, _2);
to be used as
ReturnType result = my_func(a
John Levon wrote:
> Super-glad to see Asger back into the fold. He can be a less hated me!!
He's just got a thicker skin ;-) How the hell are you anyway?
--
Angus
John Weiss wrote:
> I just ran a quick test. Any Unix shell treats "--option='foo bar'"
> as a single element of "*argv[]". The single-quotes protected the
> space from the shell. (I tested with bash, ash, csh, tcsh, ksh, and
> bsh.)
>
> For Windows, however I wouldn't be surprised if whitespac
> "John" == John Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> Yeah, I kinda figured that, Uwe. What I'm wondering is: are
John> figure floats automatically left-justified? (That's what I meant
John> by "LaTeX-ism".)
The contents of figure floats is nothing special, so it is left-right
justified b
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> Any particualr reason not to just clear it?
>
> // Make sure that we are clean
> packages_.clear();
Currently, getAvailable is called from two places:
(1) LaTeXFeatures::isAvailable
if (packages_.empty())
getAvailable();
(when LyX checks
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Angus> The scheme expects that the binary to be in the
Angus> /src directory, but tex2lyx is in the
Angus> /src/tex2lyx directory. See get_build_dirs:
Angus> string const binary_dir = OnlyPath(binary); string const
Angus> build_suppor
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