Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier [SOLVED]

2014-05-20 Thread John Hupp
Software Updater appeared again today, the third day in a row, so I'm calling this solved. On 5/19/2014 12:49 PM, John Hupp wrote: Software Updater appeared again today. That's two days in a row. I left some updates uninstalled, so if it appears again tomorrow I am ready to call this solved.

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-20 Thread bapoumba
Thanks, that is what I did yesterday, comment on the bug report and link to the forums thread. Cheers, b. On Tue, 20 May 2014 01:39:04 +0200, Phill Whiteside wrote: the release notes are as a part of the wiki system and point to the launchpad bug tracker system. If you have a comment in

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-19 Thread Phill Whiteside
the release notes are as a part of the wiki system and point to the launchpad bug tracker system. If you have a comment in a bug that will work as a workaround until the devs have a full fix, please add it to the bug fix on launchpad and then mention the comment on the release notes. contrary to w

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-19 Thread John Hupp
On 5/19/2014 3:08 PM, bapoumba wrote: Hey John, On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM, John Hupp > wrote: For anyone just tuning in now, the bug in which 14.04 does not autostart anything from /etc/xdg/autostart affects update-notifier (yes, it's in the R

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-19 Thread Henk Terhell
John, thanks for this explanation. I was now also able to get the update notifier working on my laptop and it even did so right after a restart! Henk John Hupp schreef op 19-5-2014 18:49: Software Updater appeared again today. That's two days in a row. I left some updates uninstalled, so if

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-19 Thread bapoumba
Hey John, On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM, John Hupp wrote: > > For anyone just tuning in now, the bug in which 14.04 does not autostart > anything from /etc/xdg/autostart affects update-notifier (yes, it's in the > Release Notes, but I only remembered the application to nm-applet). > > I have

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-19 Thread John Hupp
Software Updater appeared again today. That's two days in a row. I left some updates uninstalled, so if it appears again tomorrow I am ready to call this solved. For anyone just tuning in now, the bug in which 14.04 does not autostart anything from /etc/xdg/autostart affects update-notifier (

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-18 Thread John Hupp
When I booted the laptop today (with the Default applications for LXSession in place), I was immediately offered updates, so I take that as a good initial confirmation of what I posted yesterday. I installed some, but not all of the updates, so we'll see if I'm offered more over the next coupl

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-17 Thread bapoumba
Hey John, everything is set up to daily. Cheers, b. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:46 PM, John Hupp wrote: > At this point I'd like to think that there is much less of a problem > than I thought for a while, but since the issue has security implications > it's worth being sure. > > Assuming prop

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-17 Thread John Hupp
At this point I'd like to think that there is much less of a problem than I thought for a while, but since the issue has security implications it's worth being sure. Assuming proper behavior for a moment, apart from phased updates, another delineation point is whether the available updates are

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-17 Thread bapoumba
Hello :) I've been keeping an eye on this. For 2 days, update-notifier has not reported anything. just checked today with apt-get and got this from a simulation on upgrade : The following packages will be upgraded: apport apport-gtk python3-apport python3-problem-report python3-software-prop

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-17 Thread John Hupp
On 5/17/2014 2:57 PM, brendanperrine wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:37:38 -0400 John Hupp wrote: Some fresh experiences today: I booted the laptop, manually ran just "update-notifier" from the terminal (and yes, I did forget to add " &"), and Software Updater appeared almost immediately to off

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-17 Thread brendanperrine
On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:37:38 -0400 John Hupp wrote: > Some fresh experiences today: > > I booted the laptop, manually ran just "update-notifier" from the > terminal (and yes, I did forget to add " &"), and Software Updater > appeared almost immediately to offer a big batch of updates. > > Rat

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-17 Thread John Hupp
Some fresh experiences today: I booted the laptop, manually ran just "update-notifier" from the terminal (and yes, I did forget to add " &"), and Software Updater appeared almost immediately to offer a big batch of updates. Rather inexplicable, but running with it just to see what would happe

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-16 Thread John Hupp
Hi, Julien. Early in this thread (as below), it seemed like the problem might be related to that bug, but even after getting update-notifier running by one means or another, I find that I'm never automatically offered the updates. Or rather, to be precise, I was automatically offered updates

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-16 Thread Julien Lavergne
It's the same bug that the network icon not showing on the panel. Please see : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1309698 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/1308348 https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/staging for the fix. And be sure to not have au

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-15 Thread Israel
On 05/15/2014 04:24 PM, John Hupp wrote: > On 5/15/2014 3:58 PM, brendanperrine wrote: >> brendanperrine >> If anything it might be a problem with default apps for lxsession. >> What is disable autostart applications set to where it is not working? >> >> I also wonder if you run update notifier in

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-15 Thread Phill Whiteside
I would, therefore, advise waiting until the head of dev has un-picked what is happening :) Regards, Phillw On 15 May 2014 22:24, John Hupp wrote: > On 5/15/2014 3:58 PM, brendanperrine wrote: > >> brendanperrine >> If anything it might be a problem with default apps for lxsession. What >> is

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-15 Thread John Hupp
On 5/15/2014 3:58 PM, brendanperrine wrote: brendanperrine If anything it might be a problem with default apps for lxsession. What is disable autostart applications set to where it is not working? I also wonder if you run update notifier in openbox does it start as that could likely imply a LX

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-15 Thread brendanperrine
On Thu, 15 May 2014 14:44:49 -0400 John Hupp wrote: > description). But in Lubuntu, as far as I know there has never been a -- brendanperrine If anything it might be a problem with default apps for lxsession. What is disable autostart applications set to where it is not working? I also w

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-15 Thread John Hupp
On 5/14/2014 10:00 PM, Israel wrote: On 05/14/2014 05:38 PM, John Hupp wrote: For nm-applet, Fix #1 at http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html worked for me, and Fix #2 slipped from memory. But for this problem with update-notifier, *neither* Fix results in notif

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-15 Thread John Hupp
On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, John Hupp wrote: Hi, Phill. I can be dense at any time of the day, and it's late here now, so the risks are even higher. But: The Release Notes and links on that point (/etc/xdg/autostart shortcuts don't work) seem both succinct and broad enough, but I'm not seeing th

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-14 Thread John Hupp
Hi, Phill. I can be dense at any time of the day, and it's late here now, so the risks are even higher. But: The Release Notes and links on that point (/etc/xdg/autostart shortcuts don't work) seem both succinct and broad enough, but I'm not seeing that they cover this case. I can get updat

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-14 Thread Israel
On 05/14/2014 05:38 PM, John Hupp wrote: > For nm-applet, Fix #1 at > http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html > worked for me, and Fix #2 slipped from memory. > > But for this problem with update-notifier, *neither* Fix results in > notification of updates. > > Oddly, i

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-14 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, so the release notes do not state it can take two reboots (network), and the initial bug points to the second bug which affects (amongst other) update manager? I'm not being picky, but I added that section and would appreciate how to make it clearer for those people who actually bother to rea

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-14 Thread John Hupp
For nm-applet, Fix #1 at http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html worked for me, and Fix #2 slipped from memory. But for this problem with update-notifier, *neither* Fix results in notification of updates. Oddly, in /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop, neit

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-14 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi John (and everyone else), This issue is known about and is on the release notes[1]. It never surprises me that people never read them :) If you are affected, simply log onto the bug and click 'Affects Me', this way you will get updates as the bug progresses. Rest assured, Julien is on the case

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-14 Thread John Hupp
On 5/13/2014 6:40 PM, brendanperrine wrote: On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:39:52 -0400 Dale Visser wrote: I may be seeing this as well on my two Lubuntu 14.04 Also I think this may be a related issue but if I do update and then have a kernel update then the reminder to restart your computer does not

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-13 Thread brendanperrine
On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:39:52 -0400 Dale Visser wrote: > I may be seeing this as well on my two Lubuntu 14.04 Also I think this may be a related issue but if I do update and then have a kernel update then the reminder to restart your computer does not come up. -- brendanperrine -- Lubuntu-us

RE: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-13 Thread Dale Visser
vis...@live.com>; lubuntu user list<mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier On 5/12/2014 6:09 AM, bapoumba wrote: > Hello ! > > On Sun, 11 May 2014 20:07:35 +0200, John Hupp > wrote: > > It&#

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-13 Thread John Hupp
mailto:bapou...@ubuntu.com> Sent: ‎5/‎8/‎2014 5:50 AM To: John Hupp <mailto:lubu...@prpcompany.com> Cc: lubuntu user list <mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-12 Thread bapoumba
ent: ‎5/‎8/‎2014 5:50 AM To: John Hupp Cc: lubuntu user list Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier Hello, thanks for the email, I was about to post one. First off, I'd like to apologize for silently joining the list a few weeks back. So hello, you

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-11 Thread John Hupp
lubu...@prpcompany.com> Cc: lubuntu user list <mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier Hello, thanks for the email, I was about to post one. First off, I'd like to apologize for silently join

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-08 Thread John Hupp
From: bapoumba <mailto:bapou...@ubuntu.com> Sent: ?5/?8/?2014 5:50 AM To: John Hupp <mailto:lubu...@prpcompany.com> Cc: lubuntu user list <mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier Hello

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-08 Thread bapoumba
ed. > > Sent from my Windows Phone > -- > From: bapoumba > Sent: ‎5/‎8/‎2014 5:50 AM > To: John Hupp > Cc: lubuntu user list > Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with > update-manager/notifier > > Hello, > > thanks

RE: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-08 Thread Dale Visser
g that can be updated. Sent from my Windows Phone From: bapoumba<mailto:bapou...@ubuntu.com> Sent: ‎5/‎8/‎2014 5:50 AM To: John Hupp<mailto:lubu...@prpcompany.com> Cc: lubuntu user list<mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: 14.04

Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

2014-05-08 Thread bapoumba
Hello, thanks for the email, I was about to post one. First off, I'd like to apologize for silently joining the list a few weeks back. So hello, you'll mainly find me on the forums :) I've added a few things to the forums thread, and linked the bug report here https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-