Hey John, everything is set up to daily.
Cheers, b. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:46 PM, John Hupp <lubu...@prpcompany.com> wrote: > At this point I'd like to think that there is much less of a problem > than I thought for a while, but since the issue has security implications > it's worth being sure. > > Assuming proper behavior for a moment, apart from phased updates, another > delineation point is whether the available updates are Security or Other. > Preferences: Software & Updates: Updates (software-properties-gtk) by > default is set to display security updates immediately (but only once > daily, as it now seems to mean!), but other updates weekly. So if your > list happens to include only other updates, then nothing would appear for a > week. > > > On 5/17/2014 4:34 PM, bapoumba wrote: > > Hello :) > > I've been keeping an eye on this. > > For 2 days, update-notifier has not reported anything. just checked today > with apt-get and got this from a simulation on upgrade : > > The following packages will be upgraded: > apport apport-gtk python3-apport python3-problem-report > python3-software-properties software-properties-common > software-properties-gtk > > Looking here : > http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html, I see > software-propoerties has currently been offered to 90% of users and is on > day 2, I'll wait for a day or two. > The other one that I have installed and could be upgraded is apport, but > it is being blocked due to > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1282349 > The apport bug seems fixed, but the package offered by apt-get is still > 2.14.1 : > > Inst apport [2.14.1-0ubuntu3] (2.14.1-0ubuntu3.1 > Ubuntu:14.04/trusty-updates [all]) > > when the fix is in package apport - 2.14.2-0ubuntu1, only available in > utopic for now (I'm on trusty). > > So we'll see. > Cheers, > b. > > > > > > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, John Hupp <lubu...@prpcompany.com> wrote: > >> On 5/17/2014 2:57 PM, brendanperrine wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:37:38 -0400 >>> John Hupp <lubu...@prpcompany.com> wrote: >>> >>> Some fresh experiences today: >>>> >>>> I booted the laptop, manually ran just "update-notifier" from the >>>> terminal (and yes, I did forget to add " &"), and Software Updater >>>> appeared almost immediately to offer a big batch of updates. >>>> >>>> Rather inexplicable, but running with it just to see what would happen, >>>> I rebooted without installing anything, added update-notifier to Default >>>> applications for LXSession: Autostart tab, and rebooted again. The >>>> update-notifier changelog indicates that it is supposed to poll every >>>> 180 seconds. For good measure I gave it 10 minutes, but Software >>>> Updater did not appear. I rebooted 10 times and waited 10 minutes each >>>> time, all with the same no-show results. >>>> >>>> I also booted the desktop on which I installed 14.04 a couple days ago. >>>> I did not manually run update-notifier but instead set up the >>>> update-notifier workaround in Default applications for LXSession. I >>>> rebooted and *Software Updater almost immediately offered 140+ MB of >>>> updates*, which I installed. >>>> >>>> Back on the laptop, I gave it an Ethernet connection and rebooted 5 more >>>> times, waiting 10 minutes each time. Still no updates offered. >>>> >>>> I removed the update-notifier entry from Default applications for >>>> LXSession: Autostart, pulled the Ethernet plug, switched the WiFi back >>>> on, and rebooted. I ran "update-notifier &" from a terminal and waited >>>> 10 minutes. No results. I did this 5 times. >>>> >>>> Then I did the same as above but ran "dbus-launch update-notifier &" >>>> instead. I did this 3 times with no results. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> The only hypothesis I can see from the above is that >>>> update-notifier/manager will offer the updates once (per day?), and if >>>> you don't install them it will not offer them again. >>>> >>>> Could this be? >>>> >>>> >>>> I think in software and updates from the menu is set to check daily by >>> default. >>> >>> >> I see that now, and that may be the simple and good explanation for >> what appeared to be bad behavior. Though update-notifier runs as a daemon >> and polls every 180s, it is update-manager that actually offers the >> updates, so clearly there is some mechanism between them (which I have >> asked about here before). >> >> Software-properties-gtk (aka Preferences: Software & Updates) is supposed >> to "manage the repositories that you install software from," and its >> manpage describes it simply as a software sources list editor, but via its >> Updates tab it also seems to govern update-notifier/manager. >> >> Since it cannot be set to check more often than daily, it looks like I'll >> have to wait until tomorrow to confirm whether it works, but I'll manually >> add update-notifier back to the Autostart list. >> >> If that succeeds, then there really is no deep problem, only the problem >> with /etc/xdg/autostart that also affects nm-applet, etc., for which we >> have the workaround (and for which a true fix is in the works). >> >> Thanks, Brendan! >> >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> > > > > -- > bapoumba > > > -- bapoumba
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