At this point I'd like to think that there is much less of a problem
than I thought for a while, but since the issue has security
implications it's worth being sure.
Assuming proper behavior for a moment, apart from phased updates,
another delineation point is whether the available updates are Security
or Other. Preferences: Software & Updates: Updates
(software-properties-gtk) by default is set to display security updates
immediately (but only once daily, as it now seems to mean!), but other
updates weekly. So if your list happens to include only other updates,
then nothing would appear for a week.
On 5/17/2014 4:34 PM, bapoumba wrote:
Hello :)
I've been keeping an eye on this.
For 2 days, update-notifier has not reported anything. just checked
today with apt-get and got this from a simulation on upgrade :
The following packages will be upgraded:
apport apport-gtk python3-apport python3-problem-report
python3-software-properties software-properties-common
software-properties-gtk
Looking here :
http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
<http://people.canonical.com/%7Eubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html>, I
see software-propoerties has currently been offered to 90% of users
and is on day 2, I'll wait for a day or two.
The other one that I have installed and could be upgraded is apport,
but it is being blocked due to
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1282349
The apport bug seems fixed, but the package offered by apt-get is
still 2.14.1 :
Inst apport [2.14.1-0ubuntu3] (2.14.1-0ubuntu3.1
Ubuntu:14.04/trusty-updates [all])
when the fix is in package apport - 2.14.2-0ubuntu1, only available in
utopic for now (I'm on trusty).
So we'll see.
Cheers,
b.
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, John Hupp <lubu...@prpcompany.com
<mailto:lubu...@prpcompany.com>> wrote:
On 5/17/2014 2:57 PM, brendanperrine wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:37:38 -0400
John Hupp <lubu...@prpcompany.com
<mailto:lubu...@prpcompany.com>> wrote:
Some fresh experiences today:
I booted the laptop, manually ran just "update-notifier"
from the
terminal (and yes, I did forget to add " &"), and Software
Updater
appeared almost immediately to offer a big batch of updates.
Rather inexplicable, but running with it just to see what
would happen,
I rebooted without installing anything, added
update-notifier to Default
applications for LXSession: Autostart tab, and rebooted
again. The
update-notifier changelog indicates that it is supposed to
poll every
180 seconds. For good measure I gave it 10 minutes, but
Software
Updater did not appear. I rebooted 10 times and waited 10
minutes each
time, all with the same no-show results.
I also booted the desktop on which I installed 14.04 a
couple days ago.
I did not manually run update-notifier but instead set up the
update-notifier workaround in Default applications for
LXSession. I
rebooted and *Software Updater almost immediately offered
140+ MB of
updates*, which I installed.
Back on the laptop, I gave it an Ethernet connection and
rebooted 5 more
times, waiting 10 minutes each time. Still no updates
offered.
I removed the update-notifier entry from Default
applications for
LXSession: Autostart, pulled the Ethernet plug, switched
the WiFi back
on, and rebooted. I ran "update-notifier &" from a
terminal and waited
10 minutes. No results. I did this 5 times.
Then I did the same as above but ran "dbus-launch
update-notifier &"
instead. I did this 3 times with no results.
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The only hypothesis I can see from the above is that
update-notifier/manager will offer the updates once (per
day?), and if
you don't install them it will not offer them again.
Could this be?
I think in software and updates from the menu is set to check
daily by default.
I see that now, and that may be the simple and good explanation
for what appeared to be bad behavior. Though update-notifier runs
as a daemon and polls every 180s, it is update-manager that
actually offers the updates, so clearly there is some mechanism
between them (which I have asked about here before).
Software-properties-gtk (aka Preferences: Software & Updates) is
supposed to "manage the repositories that you install software
from," and its manpage describes it simply as a software sources
list editor, but via its Updates tab it also seems to govern
update-notifier/manager.
Since it cannot be set to check more often than daily, it looks
like I'll have to wait until tomorrow to confirm whether it works,
but I'll manually add update-notifier back to the Autostart list.
If that succeeds, then there really is no deep problem, only the
problem with /etc/xdg/autostart that also affects nm-applet, etc.,
for which we have the workaround (and for which a true fix is in
the works).
Thanks, Brendan!
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