Hello :)
I've been keeping an eye on this.
For 2 days, update-notifier has not reported anything. just
checked today with apt-get and got this from a simulation on
upgrade :
The following packages will be upgraded:
apport apport-gtk python3-apport python3-problem-report
python3-software-properties software-properties-common
software-properties-gtk
Looking here :
http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
<http://people.canonical.com/%7Eubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html>,
I see software-propoerties has currently been offered to 90% of
users and is on day 2, I'll wait for a day or two.
The other one that I have installed and could be upgraded is
apport, but it is being blocked due to
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1282349
The apport bug seems fixed, but the package offered by apt-get is
still 2.14.1 :
Inst apport [2.14.1-0ubuntu3] (2.14.1-0ubuntu3.1
Ubuntu:14.04/trusty-updates [all])
when the fix is in package apport - 2.14.2-0ubuntu1, only
available in utopic for now (I'm on trusty).
So we'll see.
Cheers,
b.
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, John Hupp
<lubu...@prpcompany.com <mailto:lubu...@prpcompany.com>> wrote:
On 5/17/2014 2:57 PM, brendanperrine wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:37:38 -0400
John Hupp <lubu...@prpcompany.com
<mailto:lubu...@prpcompany.com>> wrote:
Some fresh experiences today:
I booted the laptop, manually ran just
"update-notifier" from the
terminal (and yes, I did forget to add " &"), and
Software Updater
appeared almost immediately to offer a big batch of
updates.
Rather inexplicable, but running with it just to see
what would happen,
I rebooted without installing anything, added
update-notifier to Default
applications for LXSession: Autostart tab, and
rebooted again. The
update-notifier changelog indicates that it is
supposed to poll every
180 seconds. For good measure I gave it 10 minutes,
but Software
Updater did not appear. I rebooted 10 times and
waited 10 minutes each
time, all with the same no-show results.
I also booted the desktop on which I installed 14.04
a couple days ago.
I did not manually run update-notifier but instead
set up the
update-notifier workaround in Default applications
for LXSession. I
rebooted and *Software Updater almost immediately
offered 140+ MB of
updates*, which I installed.
Back on the laptop, I gave it an Ethernet connection
and rebooted 5 more
times, waiting 10 minutes each time. Still no
updates offered.
I removed the update-notifier entry from Default
applications for
LXSession: Autostart, pulled the Ethernet plug,
switched the WiFi back
on, and rebooted. I ran "update-notifier &" from a
terminal and waited
10 minutes. No results. I did this 5 times.
Then I did the same as above but ran "dbus-launch
update-notifier &"
instead. I did this 3 times with no results.
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The only hypothesis I can see from the above is that
update-notifier/manager will offer the updates once
(per day?), and if
you don't install them it will not offer them again.
Could this be?
I think in software and updates from the menu is set to
check daily by default.
I see that now, and that may be the simple and good
explanation for what appeared to be bad behavior. Though
update-notifier runs as a daemon and polls every 180s, it is
update-manager that actually offers the updates, so clearly
there is some mechanism between them (which I have asked
about here before).
Software-properties-gtk (aka Preferences: Software & Updates)
is supposed to "manage the repositories that you install
software from," and its manpage describes it simply as a
software sources list editor, but via its Updates tab it also
seems to govern update-notifier/manager.
Since it cannot be set to check more often than daily, it
looks like I'll have to wait until tomorrow to confirm
whether it works, but I'll manually add update-notifier back
to the Autostart list.
If that succeeds, then there really is no deep problem, only
the problem with /etc/xdg/autostart that also affects
nm-applet, etc., for which we have the workaround (and for
which a true fix is in the works).
Thanks, Brendan!
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