Re: [TRANSLATION] Re: Linux - Final and Complete Answer (was Re: Me)

2000-12-14 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Omer Zak wrote: > > Translation for those who do not do it cunningly: > > Linux is a Buddha. It was created in Finland. The influence of the Gods > of Finland upon Linux is obvious to anyone except for those who imprison > birds and charge a fee for watching them. Since the original name of >

[TRANSLATION] Re: Linux - Final and Complete Answer (was Re: Me)

2000-12-14 Thread Omer Zak
Translation for those who do not do it cunningly: Linux is a Buddha. It was created in Finland. The influence of the Gods of Finland upon Linux is obvious to anyone except for those who imprison birds and charge a fee for watching them. Since the original name of Finland is pronounced with the

Linux - Final and Complete Answer (was Re: Me)

2000-12-14 Thread Marc A. Volovic
You lot are rotters. Linux is not an operating system. Linux is not a kernel. Linux is not a distribution. Linux is not an endeavor. Linux is Ir. Ir, of course, is a form of hypereviscerated Reiyk. Of course, having been at least incepted in Suomi, the influence of Pohjola is obvious to any bu

Re: Me

2000-12-14 Thread Moshe Zadka
On 13 Dec 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suggest that you guys agree on the definitions of "OS", "Desktop > Environment", "Application" etc. It seems to me that the layman's (no > Adi, I don't mean you, don't jump :) understanding of the term OS is > stroingly influenced by

Re: Me

2000-12-14 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:46:53 +0200, Boaz Rymland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wouldn't join your terminology. > IMO, > * Linux is the Operating system brand, What do you define as Operating System? Linux is the kernel. Nothing more, nothing less. > * RedHat,Debian are distributions, meaning

Re: Me

2000-12-14 Thread Adi Stav
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 04:54:07PM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why aren't they? Unix, BSD and SysV are/were actual branded OSs that > > were sold under that brand, no less than Red Hat or HP/UX are now. > > I suppose UNIX was a brand when it was con

Re: Me

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Moshe Zadka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But even when UNIX was originally written things like troff were > considered an integral part. OK, let's get historical :). According to Dennis Ritchie, http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/notes.html "The charter for the project [UNIX for PDP-11 -

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander V. Karelin
Dear ppl! I think that the core (oops...) of the question is very simple: There is a difference between the Operating System as a Software to Hardware interface, and the Operating System as a User to Software to Hardware interface. It is a fact though, that there are two major schools of operati

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oded Arbel
- Original Message - From: "Adi Stav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > But Linux is not a brand. Most of the Linux-based distributions > include the Linux kernel as it is, or with relatively negligible > changes. Linus has neither the power nor the desire to influence > "userland" applications. It

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why aren't they? Unix, BSD and SysV are/were actual branded OSs that > were sold under that brand, no less than Red Hat or HP/UX are now. I suppose UNIX was a brand when it was controlled by a single company and was immediately associated with that company.

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Though the whole point of "Red Hat Linux" was to make the great unwashed > brand aware of Linux and that brand was Red Hat. Bob Young talked explicitly and eloquently about branding as a part of RH strategy in "Open Sources". The expectation

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Adi Stav
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:51:26PM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But Linux is not a brand. > > No, it isn't. Neither is UNIX. Nor are BSD or SysV. Red Hat is. HP/UX > is. What has it got to do with OS? Why aren't they? Unix, BSD and SysV are/were ac

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But Linux is not a brand. > > No, it isn't. Neither is UNIX. Nor are BSD or SysV. Red Hat is. HP/UX > is. What has it got to do with OS? Though the whole point of "Red Hat Linux" was to make the great unwashed brand aware o

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But Linux is not a brand. No, it isn't. Neither is UNIX. Nor are BSD or SysV. Red Hat is. HP/UX is. What has it got to do with OS? > Most of the Linux-based distributions include the Linux kernel as it > is, or with relatively negligible changes. Linus ha

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Boaz Rymland
Adi Stav wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:46:53PM +0200, Boaz Rymland wrote: > > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > > > With the current amount of differences between various linux distros, > > > calling each of them "operting system" is more correct. > > > > I wouldn't join your terminology. > >

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Adi Stav
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:46:53PM +0200, Boaz Rymland wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > With the current amount of differences between various linux distros, > > calling each of them "operting system" is more correct. > > I wouldn't join your terminology. > IMO, > * Linux is the Operating

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oded Arbel
- Original Message - > > > I prefer to say that Linux is the operating system, RedHat is the > distribution, 6.2 is the distribution version, and Kde or Gnome are the > desktop environments. You should be able to use both Gnome and Kde, but not > concurrently, unless you have several moni

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Boaz Rymland
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Adi Stav wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:45AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > > > Now. let's see if I got it right: > > > > RedHat is the operating system, and the > > > > KDE, GNOME... are the envyroments - > > > > Which means: I'll have the

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Adi Stav wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:45AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > > Now. let's see if I got it right: > > > RedHat is the operating system, and the > > > KDE, GNOME... are the envyroments - > > > Which means: I'll have the Linux Redhat 6.2 > > > and will be ab

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Adi Stav
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:45AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > Now. let's see if I got it right: > > RedHat is the operating system, and the > > KDE, GNOME... are the envyroments - > > Which means: I'll have the Linux Redhat 6.2 > > and will be able to function on several > > envyroments. > > >

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> Thanks 4 everything, man > I have a lot to ask u, and I am wondering > wether to email you my Qs, or to wait till > I see you, or - at least talk to you - > Which might take generations... > If you have a lot of questions, I suggest you post some of them and we will see where are we getting

Re: Me ,Lilo ,IDE & SCSI

2000-01-05 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
I recall I was once fscking my head off for half a day, till I finally decided I can do without the option to boot the Windows on the IDE disk. After physically disconnecting the IDE and then running lilo to install again (have a Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI), it worked perfectly. Ben-Nes Michael

Re: Me too (was: Re: Jon Hall's lecture)

1999-11-30 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Omer Zak wrote: > My opinion in the lecture subject debate is a "me too". I agree with > Moran Cohen's suggestion. > > The knowledge about integrating Linux into a Windows World can (AFAIK) > be summarized in the single word SAMBA (anyone cares to suggest a meaning > to the prefix HA, so that w