Moshe Zadka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But even when UNIX was originally written things like troff were
> considered an integral part.
OK, let's get historical :). According to Dennis Ritchie,
http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/notes.html
"The charter for the project [UNIX for PDP-11 - OG], and the reason
the machine [PDP-11 - OG] was obtained, was to develop a document
editing and formatting system. The original notion was to use UNIX as
a development tool only, and have the editing system run stand
alone. [This is true as it applies to justifying the purchase of the
PDP-11. The earlier work on the PDP-7 just happened in the course of
doing research.]
It turned out, however, that it was quite practical to have the
editing system run under UNIX, and this is [how it] operates."
[By the way, Ritchie's notes of 1972 are a really interesting read
IMHO, especially when you stop to think what it still true today]
> > My personal bias is that not only KDE or GNOME, but X, emacs, even ed
> > or find are not parts of UNIX
>
> Well, Kernigan & Pike disagree with you: there's a chapter about ed
> in "The UNIX Programming Environment".
I certainly agree with that! But I make a distinction between a
"Programming Environment" and an OS. I do think things like
ed/emacs/awk are available for multiple OSs. [Well, one can argue
that those are different implementations, though GNU stuff is still
available for multiple OSs.]
I agree that we have to let the terminology to evolve though.
--
Oleg Goldshmidt | Comgates Ltd. | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft;
And wit depends on dilatory time."
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