On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:46:05 +0200, Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As for the question the original poster had: when you log in, you have an
> ISP, so use its SMTP server as your mail relay. For example, say you log
> in using Barak. Then use mail.barak.net.il as your mail relay. It'
At 23:29 16/12/2001, you wrote:
>> > Now I'm connected to Internet-Zahav, meaning I have an Internet-Zahav IP,
>> > and still this massage is sent trough mailgw.netvision.net.il.
>>
>>what are the differences between our setups? my IP resolves properly. the
>>IP you sent this email from (213.8.144
> > Now I'm connected to Internet-Zahav, meaning I have an Internet-Zahav IP,
> > and still this massage is sent trough mailgw.netvision.net.il.
>
>what are the differences between our setups? my IP resolves properly. the
>IP you sent this email from (213.8.144.251) does not back-resolve properly
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Refael Ackermann wrote:
> but the fact is:
> Now I'm connected to Internet-Zahav, meaning I have an Internet-Zahav IP,
> and still this massage is sent trough mailgw.netvision.net.il.
you're still mis-interpreting the situation, it seems.
i tried now to send email from my
e never designed such a system.
> > >through which server do you relay ? I tried mailgw.netvision.net.il
> > >
> > >Oded
> > >
> > >--
> > >"A Meltdown? One of those annoying buzzwords. We prefer to think of it
> as an
> > >unreque
On Sun, Dec 16, 2001, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: (OT) ISP's that don't allow
relaying":
> > And af far as being "spam freindly", it is, but it's allso useful for
> > me as a legitimate user.
> >
> But for how long?
>
>
>Oded
> >
> >--
> >"A Meltdown? One of those annoying buzzwords. We prefer to think of it as an
> >unrequested fission surplus!"
> > -- Montegue Burns, (The Simpsons)
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Refael Ac
On 2001 December? 16 ,Sunday 14:58, Refael Ackermann wrote:
> I'm using mailgw.netvision.net.il, and Eudora as client.
> To be more specific about what I've figured as the needed header
> format: The header must contain a valid netvision address anywhere
> (including the "To" field).
> Theoreticly
Refael Ackermann wrote:
> I'm using mailgw.netvision.net.il, and Eudora as client.
> To be more specific about what I've figured as the needed header format:
> The header must contain a valid netvision address anywhere (including
> the "To" field).
> Theoreticly searching the acount names DB sho
quot;Refael Ackermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Oded Arbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 10:05 PM
>Subject: Re: (OT) ISP's that don't allow relaying
>
>
> > At 19:12 15/12/2001, yo
Refael Ackermann wrote:
> At 19:12 15/12/2001, you wrote:
>
>> Not as far as I know - I just tried to telnet to the Netvision mail
>> gw and
>> tried to send mail using a mail from address of an old netvision
>> account -
>> it reject my rcpt to command with a 'not relaying' error message. I'm
I have a E-mail only acount on Netvision, and as you can see i'm sending
E-mail trough their SMTP server.
Netvision's relay-blocking scheme is to check the "Reply-to" field for a
netvision address, so you can send
from whatever IP you have as long as you put an @ netvision.net.il adress
in the
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Manor G. wrote:
> Hi,
> I am using several ISPs but over the years I got used to using one email
> box at actcom, a few months ago I canceled
> My dial-up account there but I bought an "Email-only" account, which
> most isp's offer, just to have my old regular email address.
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> SS>> too much :). You can try and get Actcom to do an "SMTP after POP"
> SS>> arrangment. In any case, don't get mad at them for not relaying.
> SS>> Relaying is BAAAD.
>
> Actually, relaying for own client's IP is good. That's the part of ISP
> serv
SS>> too much :). You can try and get Actcom to do an "SMTP after POP"
SS>> arrangment. In any case, don't get mad at them for not relaying.
SS>> Relaying is BAAAD.
Actually, relaying for own client's IP is good. That's the part of ISP
service. And ISP can easily know for any given IP if it is th
Unless someone (the word "Nadav" seems to pop into my head, for no
apparent reason) you are trying to send mail to is running an "RBL+"
filter, which also filters out dial-up IPs, and bingo - you cannot send
them mail.
No, running your own mail server is not always a good idea. I have a
solut
Ishai.
- Original Message -
From:
Manor
G.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:35
PM
Subject: (OT) ISP's that don't allow
relaying
Hi,
I am using several
ISPs but over the years I got used to using one email box at actcom, a
Hey Manor ;)
On Friday 14 December 2001 13:35, Manor G. wrote:
> Was that an Email-only account is only for GETTING mail, if you want to
> Sent mail you must use a different Smtp by a different ISP.
> Then I Found out most isps don't allow relaying, so I wondered, why isps
> offer mailbox's anyw
Hi,
I
am using several ISPs but over the years I got used to using one email box at actcom, a few months ago I canceled
My
dial-up account there but I bought an "Email-only" account, which
most isp's offer, just to
have my old regular email address.
While
trying to send mail, I always ge
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