Re: [ANN] LilyPad Preview 2

005, at 9:50 AM, Walter Hofmeister wrote: Ed, I noticed from the webpage that it lists "Tiger" OS X 10.4 as a requirement. Will it also work with 10.3? Some of us do not intent to go to 10.4. Walter Hofmeister ___ lilypond-user m

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

Zitat von Joseph Rushton Wakeling : Hello all, A question which has come up, and where I'm not sure what the answer or intention is. Lilypond is licensed under the GPL and reading through the license file, I didn't come across any granted exceptions (IIRC the fonts have an exception for em

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

OK. Please consider my suggestion as obsolete, but I'd like to clarify what I intended to say (but obviously failed to do so) Quoting David Kastrup : Urs Liska writes: Would something like %@5 a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | be an option? The combination'%@' would indicate that the next token is

Re: Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

23. Dezember 2017 03:30, "Simon Albrecht" mailto:%22Simon%20Albrecht%22%20)> schrieb: Hello everybody, just to let you know: After gathering from the recent thread that the situation with frescobaldi dependencies and conflicting versions of python would be easier to handle with Ubuntu 17, I tri

Re: Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

Hi all, I must add some more confusion to this issue. I just had the opportunity to install a new OS from scratch and did (exactly) the following: * Install Ubuntu MATE 17.10 from DVD * sudo apt update * sudo apt upgrade * sudo apt install etckepper (definitely

New information (success report) for Frescobaldi 3 and the Ubuntu 16.04 repositories

Hi all, after all the discussion about getting Frescobaldi to run on distributions based on Ubuntu < 17.xx I decided to give it a shot myself. TL;DR Frescobaldi *can* be installed on Ubuntu 16.04/Mint 18.3 from its own Git repositories and the Ubuntu package repositories without issues. Contex

Re: Fwd: frescobaldi 3

6. Januar 2018 12:27, "Blöchl Bernhard" schrieb: > Thanks for your kind support! > > To avoid a false delusion, in advance for list members jumping into this > thread the good message > for all linux users that the repository version of frescobaldi is always > running clueless. This > installa

Re: New information (success report) for Frescobaldi 3 and the Ubuntu 16.04 repositories

I have now finished a run-through of installation instructions. As I have once more renamed it the link is now https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Installing-Frescobaldi-3-on-Linux-(Package-or-Source) I'd be glad about feedback: * confirmation * questions * reports about mistakes * repor

Fwd: Re: Engraver action every measure with Scheme

Forwarding to the list ... Weitergeleitete Nachricht --- Von: li...@openlilylib.org An: "Ed Harbison" Gesendet: 9. Januar 2018 10:59 Betreff: Re: Engraver action every measure with Scheme Hi Ed, 9. Januar 2018 09:30, "Ed Harbison" schrieb: > Hello all! Sorry if I am doing somethin

Re: A couple of questions about Edition Engraver

Hi David, 19. Februar 2018 12:00, "David Sumbler" schrieb: > As a newcomer to using Edition Engraver, and looking at the example > files etc., I wondered why they were written with so much repetition. > "Perhaps it is just to keep things easy for newcomers like me to > understand," I thought. >

Re: Temporarily split lyrics

2. April 2018 14:49, "Malte Meyn" schrieb: > Am 02.04.2018 um 14:32 schrieb u...@openlilylib.org: > >> Hi all, >> >> what would be the most efficient way of typesetting lyrics that are >> split for a few words, ideally together with some sort of brackets >> similar to what can be seen in >> htt

Re: Temporarily split lyrics

2. April 2018 14:59, "Phil Holmes" schrieb: > Is http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=265 any use? Partially, thank you. I've realized (on lilybin) that I can start a new Lyrics context within the lyrics definition. Probably It'll work when I use named contexts to align to. Then I should benefi

Re: Temporarily split lyrics

2. April 2018 15:01, "Malte Meyn" schrieb: > Am 02.04.2018 um 14:55 schrieb li...@openlilylib.org: > >> Hm, thanks for the idea, but the problem is that this would require the >> "empty" lyrics to actually >> start at the beginning of the piece. > > You could try something like (pseudo-code):

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

Hi Torsten, 5. Mai 2018 11:44, "Torsten Hämmerle" schrieb: > Hi Urs, > > Sibelius works fine: > > > Thanks. > > As my Dorico evaluation period has expired, I can't even start it. > All the others allow testing w/o save

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

7. Mai 2018 18:51, "Jacques Menu Muzhic" schrieb: > Would it be a reasonable approach to have LilyPond first produce data in > memory, i.e. Scheme data > representing the whole score, and then either to produce the score or a MIDI > file or supply this > data to other applications, such as a Mu

Different types of music expressions

Hi, I have a music-function that has to behave differently depending on the "type" of music it gets as an argument. Interpreting the music properties 'types and 'elements I was so far able to successfully discern * sequential music * single chords * single rhythmic events (but not if they're st

Staff-brace-like horizontal spanner

Hi all, I'm looking for a way to create a horizontal spanner that looks like a PianoStaff brace, which automatically grows horizontally without scaling the whole shape. The model can be seen on this page: http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/fs1/object/display/bsb10527451_00050.html Of cours

Re: Changing Staff organization

Essentially, it sounds like you want 3 staves of vocal music and one piano staff (two staves), but you want to hide the vocal staves when they are resting and ditto for the piano, right? Create a score with 5 staves, keeping the vocal and piano parts separate (rather than using the two pia

Re: Idle curiousity about ancient Lily-lore

On 10/03/13 02:40, Jim Long wrote: > Just curious, how did the absolute notation system come about? > > My main observations are that it is piano-centric, with > { c d e f g a b c' } being an intuitive sequence, while { a b c d > e f g a' } is less logical. Mmm, well, maybe that's not > piano-c

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

On 10/03/13 03:47, Sarah k Alawami wrote: > 'd rather enter in the pitches like they are on a piano starting with c1 > being low c and c8 being very high c all the way to the right of the > keyboard. I assume you're a pianist? I'm not. So a piano-centric naming scheme would be of no use to me

Re: Idle curiousity about ancient Lily-lore

On 10/03/2013 17:35, David Kastrup wrote: I have a hard time imagining what you'd be writing after \relative if you can't even remember the name of middle C. Without knowing at least_one_ absolute pitch, anchoring \relative will be a challenge. I simply crib the start of everything from previou

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

On 13/03/2013 19:24, nothingwaver...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the idea. 1. Define absolute octave syntax with the @-sign (let it be a mnemonic for _A_bsolute) to be the syntax for temporarily specifying an ABSOLUTE PITCH within a \relative block, such that the next pitch, if it doesn't use the

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 15:04, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 03/30/2013 01:02 AM, Alexander Kobel wrote: On the other hand, user C /should/ be allowed to distribute source code under whatever license he wants to /as long as he doesn't ship the GPL libraries with it./ It's useless without them, but an

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 15:19, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 04/02/2013 03:52 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >The main difference is "work as a whole" vs "mere aggregation". If you >include some file as a form of invoking its documented interface, you >form no new combined work. Indeed, which if I recall

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 18:47, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: When you add to that the fact that the particular case we're concerned with involves copyleft licensing which gives a particular and precise definition to what is considered a "derivative work", it really doesn't seem to me possible to just writ

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 22:01, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 04/02/2013 09:50 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: OK, now let's consider a specific example. Here's a bit of C code that generates 100 random numbers and calculates their sum. /

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 22:34, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 04/02/2013 11:17 PM, Anthonys Lists wrote: So as long as Google stuck to using interfaces that the kernel devs explicitly published to user space, then using those header files EXPLICITLY does NOT create a derivative work, and therefore the

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 22:47, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 04/02/2013 11:28 PM, Anthonys Lists wrote: A derivative work is whatever the LAW says it is (whatever that is :-). NO open source licence defines the term "derivative work", although they may give their own interpretation of what

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 22:31, David Kastrup wrote: Anthonys Lists writes: Indeed, this legal claim (that using functions creates a derivative work) is exactly the claim that Oracle tried with Android and Java, and they came a royal cropper with it. "exactly" in the meaning of "quite

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 23:28, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 04/03/2013 12:01 AM, Anthonys Lists wrote: But as I understand it, the lawsuit as actually sued said "apis are copyright" and you would have needed a licence to use the apis - to use Oracle's Java. That's exactly in

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 23:31, David Kastrup wrote: Anthonys Lists writes: If they DID relicence it, then it is copyrightable Nonsense. An explicit license can be given for things not actually requiring a license for particular uses under current legal standards. It is a pledge "if you follow

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 23:37, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 04/02/2013 11:57 PM, Anthonys Lists wrote: On 02/04/2013 22:47, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: Indeed, and a consequence of distributing a "covered work" under GPL-incompatible terms is that you lose the permissions granted

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 02/04/2013 23:46, David Kastrup wrote: That wasn't what the lawsuit was about. It was not even what Oracle claimed the lawsuit to be about. The issue was the reimplementation of Java classes, not the_use_ of Java classes. Yes. But the only thing that Oracle could sue over was the use of t

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 03/04/13 03:21, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 04/03/2013 01:14 AM, Anthonys Lists wrote: >> > If your work does not include any of their work, then you don't need any >> > permission to not copy their work! :-) > But I'm not talking about copying.

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

On 03/04/13 10:22, li...@ursliska.de wrote: > I think there is one thing this discussion proves impressively: Things > are much less non-ambiguous than most of the participants assume. Something I've learnt from my time on Groklaw is that the GPL is, in fact, extremely clear. The problem is that

Re: \transpose and quoting

On 15/08/15 15:55, Simon Albrecht wrote: > Hello, > > I’m looking for a way to quote another voice, but in a different octave. > My thinking was: ‘\quoteDuring is a music function, so it returns music, > so I can wrap it into \transpose c c, {} and all’s fine.’ However, > \transpose has no effect.

Re: Beam exceptions

On 16/08/15 04:28, Andrew Bernard wrote: > In the following MWE, I would like to have the second bar have a primary > beam across all the notes, as per the first bar. I imagine it may > require more than what I have here, possibly something to do with > setting up beamExceptions? How does one do th

Re: format-mark function for A, B, C, …, X, Y, Z, Aa, Bb, Cc, …

On 16/08/15 20:21, Malte Meyn wrote: > Hi list, > > sometimes there are more than 25 or 26 rehearsal marks in a piece. > LilyPond’s format-mark-(alphabet|letters) function and friends continue > after X, Y, Z with AA, AB, AC, … > > I have never seen this in printed scores. Instead all scores I’ve

Re: bug in german manual

On 18/08/15 14:56, David Kastrup wrote: > Malte Meyn writes: > >> > Am 18.08.2015 um 09:01 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: >>> >> Thanks for clarifying my confusion. As long as I used lilypond I always >>> >> used \tuplet and argue that I did not even know that \times was/is a >>> >> possible alternativ

Re: Change size of notes in addQuote passage

On 24/08/15 19:32, Simon Albrecht wrote: > Am 24.08.2015 um 18:59 schrieb owainsut...@gmail.com: >> Is there a way to (a) use 'transposedCueDuring' which retains these >> details >> from the original, > Yes, see >

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

On 10/09/15 19:59, Tim Reeves wrote: > Age: 49 > Amateur hornist. > Typesetting of existing parts, occasionally creating simple exercises, > fingering charts, etc. Not a regular user, but like to keep up on > development. > I use Frescobaldi every time for some time now, and I've been using LP > fo

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

On 12/09/15 13:24, David Kastrup wrote: > Depends on the composer's date of death and whether you are transcribing > editorial annotations as well or just sticking to the Urtext. "we were > given photocopy music sheet" does not exactly sound a lot more legal > either, though I have indeed (from Ho

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

On 14/09/15 21:42, Tim Reeves wrote: > Well, as a hornist, I reckon my instrument of choice is a lot closer to > a "vague pointing instrument" than to a keyboard instrument! Sometimes > when I point it this way it goes the other way. In reality, it depends > more on my lips etc. than on my fingers,

Re: Rendering cropped SVG

On 15/09/15 19:46, Simon Albrecht wrote: > Am 15.09.2015 um 20:32 schrieb poto...@posteo.de: >> Unfortunately that didn't work, it still leaves a .ps file behind. > > Huh. Normally it wouldn’t; please try to create a tiny example. Also, > check the log messages; they should have something like >

Re: Multiple scores in a single document

On 22/09/15 19:08, tisimst wrote: > > On 9/22/2015 12:06 PM, Simon Albrecht-2 [via Lilypond] wrote: > >> On 22.09.2015 19:53, T. Michael Sommers wrote: >> > Is it possible to have multiple independent scores in a single >> document, >> >> Of course it’s possible: just use more than one \score {}

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

On 26/09/15 08:31, Andrew Bernard wrote: > However, you don’t often see scores with every barline numbered, and > generally publishers only print the bar number at the start of each line, and > normally leaving out 1. Actually, printing bar numbers at the start of each line is NOT general practi

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

On 26/09/15 09:52, T. Michael Sommers wrote: > and if the numbers usually appear at the start of the line (which also > appears odd to me) Think of using a bar number as a rehearsal mark. If you say "start at bar 17", and that is a rehearsal mark, it would be well weird if the mark was placed betw

Re: Repeat with alternatives

On 01/10/2015 18:40, Tim McNamara wrote: On Sep 30, 2015, at 8:22 AM, s.p.korzil...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sir / Madam, I’m trying to write a piece that has repeats with alternatives. It seems that “\repeat volta 2” is the way to go with supplying the alternatives in “\alternative”. However, t

Re: Repeat with alternatives

On 02/10/2015 07:24, Johan Vromans wrote: On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:41:21 +0100 Anthonys Lists wrote: Anyways, I think we've all missed the OPs problem. As he phrased it, I understand he wants {fixed part 1} {alternative 1} {alternative 2} {fixed part 2} repeat I'm not familiar wi

Re: Best Practices for file structures, score and parts

On 02/10/2015 08:58, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: do I enter the transposing instruments into the score in concert pitch or transposed? Can Frescobaldi (my editor of choice) take an entire Voice and transpose it into concert pitch after I've edited, or should I enter the content in concert pitch (tra

Re: Repeat with alternatives

On 03/10/15 06:58, Brian Barker wrote: > At 19:30 02/10/2015 +0100, Anthony Youngman wrote: >> At the end of the day, it's down to the conductor to make sure the >> players know what they're doing. > > But surely engraved music is designed to indicate this unambiguously? If > the conductor needs t

Re: [OT] Printer with or without Postscript

On 13/10/15 11:09, Johan Vromans wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:39:35 +1100 > Andrew Bernard wrote: > >> > Whatever page description >> > language your printer uses internally, the printer driver software on >> > your computer will convert your file to that language format and print >> > it. >>

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

On 23/10/15 05:48, Jacques Menu wrote: > So, David, please send me your IBAN privately, and I’ll fix this problem on > my side. I know there's all this fuss about putting bank accounts on the web, but here (in the UK) we have bank accounts that can't originate transactions, and can't have an over

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

On 25/10/15 11:08, Chris Yate wrote: > As I understand it, there are some differences in the commission payable > for sending money to a friend vs buying a thing, but I've not looked > into it for a couple of years. We were investigating it for managing our > orchestra subs - I think it was about £

Re: Lilypond 2.19.31 on openSUSE Leap 42.1

On 14/11/15 11:52, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Anybody running this combination? > > When attempting to run lilypond, libffi.so.6 is not found: > > error while loading shared libraries: libffi.so.6: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > > > I am presently unable to l

Re: Unwanted barline. How to get rid of it?

On 23/12/15 12:21, Robert Blackstone wrote: > Yes, it should be a partial. > But I do not know how to code that, 5 instead of 6 eighth notes, at the > end of a section. I've not tried it, but would an s8 work? If you just need to pad the bar out, that seems obvious to me. I was just thinking tha

Re: How to transpose an entire piece of music?

On 23/12/15 15:02, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Bernhard, > >> > When I searched for Lilypond transponieren (transpose) I was not at all >> > clear that this could be done on an entire piece. There is no example >> > where score is mentioned. > While it doesn’t explicitly say “score”, it does [at

Re: \transpose not work working inside define-music-function

On 27/12/15 16:32, J Smith wrote: > I'm trying to define a music function that transposes a chord and a > melody multiple times. But for some reason, the transposition is done > only once. > > Here's my attempt: > > repeatpattern = > #(define-music-function (parser location chord pattern) (l

Re: alternative problem in repetition

Thats why I love these list! Theres always people with the right sight! My fault! I never notice the \\ resault of a copy/paste block Thanks again! Marcos 2016-01-26 21:32 GMT-03:00 Mark Stephen Mrotek : > Marcos, > > > > The format for alternative is: > > > > \alternative { {%here first alterna

Re: transposing instruments

On 17/07/10 05:02, James Lowe wrote: > Jatziri, > Hi James, Jatziri, > > See: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose > > I regularly am given music in 'A' or 'C' to write out and transpose for > B-flat for the small orchestra I am in (for example

Re: Lilypond to typeset solfa style Indian music

On 28/07/10 18:21, Mike Solomon wrote: > I'd recommend entering your lyrics like normal and using notes or > spaces in the staff. Then, do massive amounts of transparency > overrides and/or context removes. The internals reference should give > you a lead on what to turn off. Also, check out: >

Re: LilyPond Report 19

On 09/08/10 15:09, Graham Percival wrote: > The LilyPond Report is back, with its two “grumpy-and-fluffy” > editors! This issue contains some conference news, along with the > regular release news, snippet of the report, news from the frog > pond, and the bug report of the report! > > Come read L

Re: (re?)directing compile output to a file

On 12/08/10 17:55, Joe Neeman wrote: > Then I'm not sure. Isn't there some way, in windows, to check what > arguments are used when you drag a file to a shortcut? Apart from that, > according to the lilypond source, it will only print out the version > string if stdin is a terminal. So perhaps you

Re: List-email Suggestion

ll* *behaved* list should operate. If you've got a badly behaved mail client that can't cope, don't force your fix onto everyone else. Why not do what I do, which is group by thread, and dump related groups into the same folder - separate your mu

Re: \partial with full measure rests

On 07/09/10 19:58, Jayaratna wrote: > Dear all, > > I have been checking old posts for this same problems, but my case is > slightly different, and I would like to ask your opinion/advice on this. > > I have a score ending with a partial measure, and some parts do not play on > that measure. > > F

Re: List-email Suggestion

prefixing the subject line is a pain in the neck! If done WELL, it's okay (several lists I'm on do it). If done BADLY, however, a dodgy email client (like LookOut) turns it into a right pain in the neck. As for making the list the default reply-to, I'm on lists that do that. And o

Re: [Haskell] Re: List-email Suggestion

On 07/09/10 23:55, David Rogers wrote: > * Matthias Kilian [2010-09-07 22:22]: > >> On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 07:10:59PM -0700, David Rogers wrote: >>> I really only see two requests for change, which pop up again and >>> again; >>> those are of course the two recently discussed - making the list t

Re: Repeating the same clef

On 15/10/10 22:18, Phil Holmes wrote: > I made the comment since there had been a discussion about this > terminology on .devel. > > BTW - staffs is a perfectly good plural of staff. Stave is a > perfectly good singular of staves. And in music, as in English, the two words are pretty much inte

Re: OooLilyPond problem

On 12/11/10 20:09, Tim McNamara wrote: > There has been a significant fork which may affect this particular > Lilypond project. Many/possibly most of the OOo developers quit the > OOo project and have started LibreOffice in protest against the parent > company that was paying for OOo development.

Re: Guitars with capos

On 01/02/14 08:05, Federico Bruni wrote: > 2014/2/1 Rachael Thomas Carlson > > > Sometimes the standard notation is at sounding pitch and sometimes > it is at pitch as if there were no capo. > > > In all books I know (staff + tabstaff) I always see the latt

Re: short Musikmesse minutes

On 20/03/2014 10:30, Urs Liska wrote: I think that LilyPond's main strength is transformative use: different page formats, different media, different transpositions, individual variations. Yes, and I have/had the impression that it _is_ possible now to promote this feature. Of course I don't e

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On 09/12/2013 06:12, James Harkins wrote: My flippant response makes it sound like any reasonably intelligent person would find the right information fairly quickly, casting the problem in terms of user carelessness. That was a misstatement. My point is that reasonably intelligent, reasonably c

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On 05/12/2013 02:09, Tim McNamara wrote: Powerful software and simple software are usually mutually exclusive. Compare Word, Pages and LaTeX, for example. Pages is more elegant but can do a small fraction of what Word can do. Word can't do a lot of things that LaTeX can. Word is aimed at peo

Re: "procedure" vs. "function"

On 18/04/15 16:21, Urs Liska wrote: > So the choice of these names is actually an inconsistency in LilyPond's > terminology? > > I'm asking this because I have just completed a tutorial about > define-music-function and its siblings, and I realized that I used the > terms function and procedure in

Re: "procedure" vs. "function"

On 18/04/15 19:56, PMA wrote: > AFAIK, of our major ancestor languages, only Pascal insisted on a > literal working > function-vs-procedure distinction. Did Wirth ever defend this insistence > (as more > than a track-keeping enforcer re value-outputting vs > non-value-outputting code)? Actually, s

Re: "procedure" vs. "function"

On 18/04/15 22:11, PMA wrote: > Aha. So the improper-er their code got, the tougher time > compilers had trying to -- as Martin says -- "throw it out". > > All told, is there now any real need _not_ to use the terms > "function" and "procedure" interchangeably? That is, any > real need to try to

Re: title_page

On 19/04/15 00:33, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: > I'm trying to make a title/cover page within LilyPond. I'm aware of the > possibility of workarounds: > > lilypond-book/LaTeX; Strikes me as a bit ham-fisted, not sure if I would run > into trouble as I've seen the warning about \pageBreak not play

Re: Font trouble

On 18/04/15 22:57, Wols Lists wrote: > I must admit this is an example of "monkey see, monkey do" coding, but > I'm pretty certain I was given it on this list originally, this is the > second time I've tried to do something like this, and it's most > defini

Re: Do we really offer the future?

On 20/04/15 15:54, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Some say that Microsoft obtained its original OS dominance (which at one > point was approaching 95%) specifically by giving the priority to non-users: > it wilfully allowed (or even secretly supported) the proliferation of pirated > copies of early W

Re: How do new users feel about LilyPond's documentation?

On 22/04/15 20:19, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: > I don't see anywhere in the reference or the manual where that sort of > comprehensive style guide is presented. I'm thinking something like the > doorstops O'Reilly's uses for documenting, say, HTML. I hate to use the > term (it's already been ruined by

Re: How do new users feel about LilyPond's documentation?

On 23/04/15 00:00, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Wol, > Hi Kieren (NB, I've read Thomas' response) >> What I'd like to see is worked, documented examples. > > I’m happy to supply a few… But there are so many questions: > > 1. Where would they be kept? Actually, the thought just struck me, maybe

Re: What is the problem with "\relative"? (Was: Do we really offer the future?)

On 23/04/15 20:35, Calixte Faure wrote: > I learned music in French (native French) and was at the beginning a > little bit confused with 2 4 8 16 etc. because we say white, black, > "hooked", double-"hooked", triple-, etc. but after all it is logical > with the numbers. > I understood the choice

Re: mutopia's shortcomings

On 24/04/2015 12:42, Gilles wrote: Even if not everyone will agree on "the" standard layout, I feel that it is extremely important to define one, with the maximum flexibility. The problem arises, of course, when there are existing, conflicting, standards. There IS a standard out there, to w

Fixing overlapping notation

You can tell I've looked at the relevant section of the manual ... But I have two problems bugging me at the moment, and it's related to a problem I have in general with lilypond - it tries to avoid collsions by separating stuff vertically. How do I tell it to push them apart *horizontally*. T

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 24/04/2015 20:54, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Wol, I have in general with lilypond - it tries to avoid collsions by separating stuff vertically. How do I tell it to push them apart *horizontally* I have often asked about devising (and paying for) an automated system for this. Unfortunately,

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

nderstanding what it was doing ...) Cheers, Wol Am 24.04.2015 um 18:09 schrieb Anthonys Lists: You can tell I've looked at the relevant section of the manual ... But I have two problems bugging me at the moment, and it's related to a problem I have in general with lilypond - it tries

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 24/04/2015 22:32, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Wol, As mentioned by others, actual code samples will be much better than abstract complaints, if a solution is what you’re looking for. If squeezing notes closer causes markup to collide and staircase, that's VERY painful to me. Does this not

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 24/04/2015 22:30, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 4/24/15 2:00 PM, "Anthonys Lists" wrote: On 24/04/2015 20:23, Simon Albrecht wrote: Please give us (code, eventually output) examples, else it¹s difficult to get your point. Yours, Simon pdf and relevant lily code attached. I kno

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

Hi, as mentioned by others your example is not very useful. Actually it puzzles me, I have _no_ idea about the intended output. Nevertheless, you happily mix different things all the time: TextScript and RehearsalMark. They have different usecases and different default settings. Anyway you co

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 24/04/2015 23:48, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Wol, Hope this helps! It has! So now I hope you see that Lilypond is *EXCELLENT* at handling collisions, if you simply correctly instruct her to do so. =) Cheers, Kieren. :-) Yup. It's just finding out how

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 25/04/2015 00:00, Anthonys Lists wrote: On 24/04/2015 23:48, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Wol, Hope this helps! It has! So now I hope you see that Lilypond is *EXCELLENT* at handling collisions, if you simply correctly instruct her to do so. =) Cheers, Kieren

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 25/04/2015 00:35, Thomas Morley wrote: And please, this is_not_ a tiny example! You would significantly increase your chance to get help from the list if you'd try to reduce it to tiny examples only showing_one_ problem. I do appreciate that you don't want to look through too much code. BUT

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 25/04/2015 00:44, Thomas Morley wrote: Thanks. That looks great EXCEPT I can't get it to work for me :-( I run your example, and it's bang on. I try to do the same in my part, and it don't work :-( You've got a rehearsal mark, followed by a right-aligned text markup. I copy your right-ali

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 25/04/2015 01:08, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Wol, How do I justify markup against a note? How about \once \override TextScript.self-alignment-X = #RIGHT ? That's what Thomas has kindly suggested. Except it's not working for me - his example works fine, my cut-n-paste doesn't ... what giv

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 25/04/2015 01:28, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Wol, It seems to me that there is too much "addressing one issue", when my big problem is conflicting solutions! In other words, the solution to one problem promptly screws up the solution to another! You need to apply the solution correctly to

Re: Creating LilyPond Object Models

On 26/04/2015 17:08, Urs Liska wrote: Hi Paul, I don't know if that's in any way related to our talk yesterday or if it has exclusively been triggered by Carl starting it. But this is very much a skeleton of what I was talking about! It would be absolutely great if you could pour that into a t

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 25/04/2015 01:28, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Wol, Hi Kieren, Thomas So I'm now having another go, and it's just blown up again !!! :-( It seems to me that there is too much "addressing one issue", when my big problem is conflicting solutions! In other words, the solution to one problem

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 26/04/2015 22:02, Anthonys Lists wrote: As you suggested, I changed "Allegretto con moto" to a metronome mark (that's \tempo, right?) Instant result? STAIRCASING MARKUP AGAIN :-( wtf do I adjust now? The documentation is great at telling you HOW to change things, but not WH

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 26/04/2015 22:02, Anthonys Lists wrote: And, I'm not quite sure of what it was before, but having changed "Take 2nd to D.S." to a rehearsal mark as you suggest, what do I get? STAIRCASING MARKUP AGAIN as it collides with the volta spanner! The text is supposed to be to

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

On 25/04/2015 00:35, Thomas Morley wrote: Oh - and how do I get Score.VoltaBracket.shorten-pair to affect only the >*second* bracket? Do I stick it between the two alternatives? I know when I >tried something like that last time, it wouldn't even compile ... \alternative { { R2*2 } { \onc

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