Re: change measure's width

2008-05-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
The change suggested by Graham will space out the notes more, but if the note length is increased in this way fewer notes are fitted into the measure, which is probably not what you want. To avoid this, you can internally change the length of the measure like this: c4 c c c \set Score.measure

Re: Custom lyric extender

2008-05-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
The lyric extender is actually drawn as a long thin box with rounded corners. AFAIK there is no easy way to replace this with any other sort of symbol, but maybe someone can prove me wrong. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Peter Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday,

Re: question about multiple choir staff's in one system

2008-05-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi You have correctly used << .. >> round the staves within each ChoirStaff, but you have not placed << .. >> round the several ChoirStaves. You get errors in the first attempt as LilyPond does not permit sequential ChoirStaves. The second attempt works because everything is now simultaneous

Haskell module design [was Re: *.mid vs *.midi]

2008-05-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hans Aberg wrote My hope was to get to the discussion of using in Lilypond Haskell like a "import" construct, which I think might help LilyPond users, as opposed to the current "\include", which I think is more like the C preprocessor "#include", and is trickier to use. Is this an offe

Re: Small crescendo documentation improvement suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Interesting! In versions 2.11.44-1 and 2.11.45-1 on Windows I find exactly the opposite - the first example produces a dotted line, the second produces a solid line. I can't try 2.11.46 as it has not yet been released for Windows. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Arjan Bos" <[EM

Re: grace notes in TimeSig

2008-05-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan The mechanism used for timing means you have to include matching dummy grace notes in all parallel contexts. If you make the following change I think it will work as you want: dreiviertel = { \time 3/4 \grace {s32 s s} % matching grace timing #(override-auto-beam-setting '(e

Re: grace notes in TimeSig

2008-05-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
nerate one based on your example. Trevor 2008/5/23 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Stefan The mechanism used for timing means you have to include matching dummy grace notes in all parallel contexts. If you make the following change I think it will work as you want: dreiviertel = { \t

Re: rests position in otherwise empty measure.txt

2008-05-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Bill The override to position a multi-measure rest is \override MultiMeasureRest #'staff-position = #-2 Change the -2 as required - the position is measured in half-staff spaces from the centre line. You'll find this explained towards the end of section 1.2.2.3 Full measure rests in the 2.1

Re: PDF tutorial for offline viewing

2008-05-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
The best starting point to learn LilyPond the Learning Manual, which is part of the 2.11 development release. Virtually all of this is relevant to the stable 2.10 release too. It is available in html and pdf formats at http://lilypond.org. Follow the link to the development documentation and

Re: Context creation

2008-06-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kieren MacMillan wrote Hi Jesse, If \context allegedly allows one to add notes to an existing context, why does the following example not do so? \version "2.10.33" \new Staff = "mycontext" \relative c' { c4 d e f g2. } \context Staff = "mycontext" \relative c' { g'4 g f e d c1 } Because

GDP: Renaming NR 3

2008-06-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Chapter 3 in the Notation Reference is currently named "Input syntax", but the contents in the latest revision of the 2.11 docs are much wider than the name implies and I'd like to change it. The trouble is, the contents are rather diverse, being mainly the left-overs from chapters 1 & 2. Sugg

Re: numérotation, chiffre de chaque mesure / numbering of each measure

2008-06-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
See Section 1.2.5.2 "Bar numbers" in the Notation Reference for release 2.11. There are examples there that show you how to do this. Essentially you need to add an override: \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #all-visible Trevor - Original Message - From: "Ledocq-Boccar

Re: Renaming NR 3

2008-06-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
ties. OTOH, it will fit neatly into the Changing defaults chapter, perhaps after the Creating contexts section. Yours- Jay Trevor Jay Hamilton www.soundand.com Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:04:47 +0100 From: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: GDP: Renaming NR 3 To: &q

Re: accidentals in augmented unisons

2008-06-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Luis The value given to 'right-padding controls the distance between the pair of accidentals and the following note. To adjust the placement of the individual accidentals you can use various alignment markup commands (see Appendix B6.2 in the 2.11 Notation Reference). Here I've used \halign

Re: substitution with \movement

2008-06-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:48:12 +0200 Arjan Bos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If it were only for `#' denoted strings, I agree with you, but there are plenty of other inconsistencies in the LilyPond syntax that are fully understandable from the viewpoint of the program, but mak

Re: minimumVerticalExtent & minimum-Y-extent

2008-06-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Risto The \addlyrics construct does have its limitations due to relying on the implicit creation of the various contexts, and this seems to be one of them, although I would regard this as a bug. If you specify the contexts explicitly you can use the \with construct, which does seem to wor

Re: 2.11.49 - MIDI (again...)

2008-06-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
There's nothing wrong with the midi part of your score, but as written this file generates lots of other errors. To get the file to compile you need to move the \score to just before the \relative, as Graham pointed out, and to enclose each \markup block in braces - \markup { }. It then com

Re: Phrasing marks are awesome!

2008-06-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Patrick I'm afraid I don't understand what you have discovered, but have a look at LM 2.4.2 and let me know how you think this section might be modified. AFAIKS, if you use a phrasing slur "\( .. \)" and leave out the lyrics extender the lyrics do not keep proper time, and the extender line

Re: clefs not shown

2008-06-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan Which version are you using? When I try it clefs appear as expected in both 2.11.49 and 2.11.43-2. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Stefan Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lilypond-user" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: clefs not shown Dear Lilypond users,

Re: clefs not shown

2008-06-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
TED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "lilypond-user" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:38 PM Subject: Re: clefs not shown Dear Trevor, I use version 2.11.47! 2008/6/17 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Stefan Which version are you using? When

Re: clefs not shown

2008-06-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
I should have noticed the problem was in the -second- staff - sorry Stefan :( Trevor - Original Message - From: "Thomas Scharkowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:49 PM Subject: Re: clefs not shown I get clefs in the first system (version 2.11.49), no clef

Re: Lilypond and CPU cost, system resource exhaust... (was: Strangeerror causes Lilypond refus...)

2008-06-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Haipeng I tried your score on my laptop, running MS Vista, with 2.11.49. The working set was around 127 Mb, and there was no paging. The original score caused Ghostscript to fail due to missing fonts, so I commented out the lines which had font-name overrides. It then compiled successful

Re: Is my approach sane?)

2008-06-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Patrick Yes, a new \score is the easiest way to introduce a different staff arrangement. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Patrick Horgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mailinglist lilypond-user" Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Is my approach sane?) I've long wanted

Re: syntax question

2008-06-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Yes, this is in NR 5, which I haven't started yet, so it's out-of-date and full of various FIXME's and TODO's. There are a couple more sections in NR 3 to tidy up before I move on to NR 5. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mats Bengtsson"

Re: Using LilyPond with Arabic music

2008-06-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Many thanks for this. I know nothing of Arabic music, but something along the lines of your documentation would be a useful addition to NR 2 Specialist notation. A couple of points, though: If the example is copied from the pdf the fancy quote sign on the two re's has to be replaced wit

Re: Downloading the install file

2008-07-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
I get the same problem. It seems the download host download.linuxaudio.org (128.173.232.121) is down. It doesn't respond to a ping. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:47 AM Subject: Downloading the install file Hi, I

Re: Some Midi Output Problems

2008-07-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
"grick" wrote Monday, July 07, 2008 3:47 PM In this way the trumpet sound is audible. But it's not enough. Now the chords played by the acoustic piano(default) in the background is too loud and cover the instrument armony in most passages. The question is: how i can decrease the chords volum

Re: Custom noteheads and chords

2008-07-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eric \tweak may be the command you need. Have a look at section 4.1.4 Tweaking methods in the Learning Manual for release 2.11 to see why this is needed and how to use it. The explanation there applies just as well to release 2.10. However, I believe it is not possible to use \tweak in a va

Re: Custom noteheads and chords

2008-07-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
y a bunch of experiments and post my progress. -Eric (the hopeless newbie) On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Trevor Daniels treda.co.uk> writes: Eric \tweak may be the command you need. Have a look at section 4.1.4 Tweaking methods in the Learni

Re: Y-coordinates don't work in offset function

2008-07-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan Try \version "2.11.51" fingerOffset = #(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (pair?) #{ \once \override Fingering #'extra-offset = #$offsets #}) % \fingerOffset #'-0.2 #'-0.3 % moves fingering .2 spaces left and .3 down \relative c''' { \override Fingering #'

Re: Some Midi Output Problems

2008-07-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
ng a music function is described in Section 6.1 of the 2.11 docs. Be prepared for a long haul, though :) The example in 6.3.3 shows the sort of thing you might need. Trevor - Original Message - From: "grick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAI

Re: Chord Names — seen but not h eard?

2008-07-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Better late than never! You can try removing the Note_performer, like this: \midi { \context { \ChordNameVoice \remove Note_performer } } Trevor - Original Message - From: "99% Perspiration" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:22 PM Subject: Ch

Re: Creating Chorded Notes

2008-07-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eric The key to discovering how to do this is \displayMusic. Compile \displayMusic { 2 } in LilyPond and the Scheme equivalent is shown in the console log. In this case it is: (make-music 'SequentialMusic 'elements (list (make-music 'EventChord 'elements (list

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Knoop wrote Monday, July 14, 2008 9:56 AM On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 02:21 +, Carl Sorensen wrote: Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: OK, I'll bite. I propose some new predefined functions: \pointAndClickOn pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) and \pointAndClickOff

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave a écrit, Monday, July 14, 2008 7:25 PM, 2008/7/14 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Two good points. So why do we need \pointAndClickOn? John Mandereau (whom I've just met with) has just given me an example of a case where one would need a \pointAndClickO

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 14, 2008 6:40 PM Non-command-line people should be using jedit anyway, so they get the three-click toggle that Bert was talking about. No I shouldn't. I have a text editing environment that has all the features I need for editing all my text files, and I ha

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 PM I've never actually used jedit myself, but I'm quite impressed with the screenshots and video showing off the advanced commands (auto-completion, docs, etc). I think that most people *would* be better served by using lilypondtool. Perhaps

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Bertalan Fodor wrote This argument is like: "I have all the predefined commands I need for editing all my LilyPond files". Not really. Using a *single* editor with which I am very familiar and which has macros, easily editable highlighers for most languages automatically selected by file exte

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Bertalan Fodor wrote Yes, it has a quite impressive list of highlighters, also syntax checking for php and html via plugins (http://jedit.org/index.php?page=features). I must note however, that jedit's highlighter configuration is regular-expression based, so it doesn't have such power that

Re: \tag can't follow \lyricsto

2008-07-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Roman Stawski wrote > The \tag command provokes a syntax error if it immediately follows a > \lyricsto > command. A work-around is to insert an empty expression {} between the > two. > > \version "2.11.49" > \paper{ ragged-right=##t } > << > \new Voice = "dirge" { c''1 } > \lyricsto "dirge" \

Re: \tag can't follow \lyricsto

2008-07-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nicolas Sceaux wrote Le 15 juil. 08 à 21:02, Trevor Daniels a écrit : Roman Stawski wrote << \new Staff { \new Voice = "dirge" { c''1 } } \lyricsto "dirge" \new Lyrics { Whoops } \tag #'harmony \new Staff { a'1 } >> OK, I see what you a

GDP: NR 3

2008-07-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
NR 3 Input Syntax in GDP has been largely reorganised and several subsections redrafted. Could you please review this for gross errors and omissions before we get down to detailed formatting and wording. The sections which have been substantially modified are: NR 3.1 Input Structure NR 3.3

Re: GDP: NR 3

2008-07-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks for the quick response! Graham Percival wrote Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:37 AM On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:17:31 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NR 3.5 MIDI output I think 3.5.7 is unnecessary. Just add ", in any MIDI player which supports pitch be

Re: GDP: NR 1.5 Simultaneous, second draft

2008-07-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:25 AM On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:04:06 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Hammar) wrote: Graham: > > << { \voiceOne ... } \new Voice { \voiceTwo ... } >> \oneVoice > > Is that really the "right" method? I thought that \\ *was* the > right metho

Re: Still confused about context vs. new

2008-07-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick My original intention was not to cover the use of \context in the LM, but I see now that several of the examples and templates use it, so that was perhaps a mistake. Thanks for pointing this out. I'll look at it again. In the meantime, the distinction is explained in NR 5.1.2 Creati

Re: GDP: NR 3

2008-07-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, July 18, 2008 1:28 AM On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:10:11 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Graham Percival wrote Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:37 AM > I think 3.5.7 is unnecessary. Just add ", in any MIDI player which > supports

Re: GDP: NR 1.5 Simultaneous, second draft

2008-07-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:35 PM 2008/7/17 Karl Hammar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Ex1: << { \A } \\ { \B } >> creates TWO new voices, which get you into problems when doing \lyricsto, where Ex2: << { \voiceOne \a } \new Voice { \voiceTwo \b } >> \oneVoice only creates ONE new

Re: GDP: NR 1.5 Simultaneous, second draft

2008-07-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco I think all you need about drum staves in NR 1.5 is a @ref to NR 2.5.1.3 Percussion staves. Otherwise you will be duplicating material there. On the wider issue of polyphonic constructs, there is no need to replicate in detail any material already in LM 3.2, but you should add briefly

Re: Spurious time signature

2008-07-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
This is a known limitation of grace notes. See the Known issues and warnings section in 1.2.6.1 Grace notes in the 2.11 Notation Reference for a solution. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ruedas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lilypond mailing list" Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008

Re: Spurious time signature

2008-07-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Sorry, I see you're still using 2.10. The situation is exactly the same, but in the 2.10 documentation the warning and solution are in section 6.5.7 Grace notes under Bugs. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Thomas

Re: strange error -beam and tremolo

2008-07-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Seems to work ok in the latest development version, 2.11.52, so I guess you're using an earlier version. The development version is now at least as stable as 2.10, so it might be worth upgrading, although you will need to run convert-ly on your files. Trevor - Original Message - From:

Re: combine music, merge noteheads

2008-07-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Try \partcombine {\stemUp \sopone} \soptwo This should do what you want, at least for this simple example. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lilypond users" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: combine music, merge no

Re: Tie control-points delete another tie

2008-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
"Marco Caliari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Risto Vääräniemi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Marco Caliari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Tie control-points delete another

Re: move note to the right a bit

2008-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
There's a bit about the \shift commands at the end of section 3.2.2 in the Learning Manual for 2.11, but these only have an effect if there would otherwise be clashing note columns. To force a shift you need to use force-hshift, see LM section 4.5.2. Trevor - Original Message - From:

Re: fixed number of systems per page

2008-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Try setting system-count in the paper block. Trevor - Original Message - From: "luis jure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lilypond-user" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:50 AM Subject: fixed number of systems per page hello list, please excuse if this is obvious, but is there a way to

Re: Compatible with Window Vista

2008-07-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
LilyPond works fine under Windows Vista Home Premium. I do not have Vista Business, but it is easy for you to try it. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Tang Tung Leh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 5:43 AM Subject: Compatible with Window Vista Hello, I wo

Re: Cannot download lilypond.

2008-07-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
See if the links from the LilyPond website work any better: http://lilypond.org/web/ Trevor - Original Message - From: "Verlepte Waangek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:51 AM Subject: Cannot download lilypond. Hello,First of all I want to thank you for ma

Re: Cannot download lilypond.

2008-07-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stupid of me - this *is* the link from the LilyPond website. Anyway, it seems to be working now. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:25 PM Subject: Re: Cannot download l

Re: Tie control-points delete another tie

2008-07-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Valentin Carl got back to you first, saving me the trouble :) I've nothing to add to his response. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Saturday, J

Re: lyrics following split voices

2008-07-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Paul Scott wrote Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:01 AM Hi, When I use << { } \\ { } >> without voice naming to show note variations in different verses of a song the parallel music gets skipped by the lyrics. I have read all the relevant 2.11 docs without finding a way to name the voices so that the

Re: second public draft, NR 2.2 Keyboard instruments

2008-07-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Looks pretty good. I have only really trivial comments: * References for keyboards Missing comma: "PianoStaff group and third, normal staff for the pedals." , The sentence: "This section discusses notation techniques particular to keyboard music." would be be

Re: Tie control-points delete another tie

2008-07-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Marco Here's a further solution to your problem which demonstrates how to use \tweak to change the shape of one tie within a chord. Thanks to Han-Wen for showing how this should be done. I've made a note to add this to the docs. \new Staff << \key f \major \time 6/8 \new Voice { \voice

Re: Tie control-points delete another tie

2008-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Bača wrote Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:35 PM On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote Here's a further solution to your problem which demonstrates how to use \tweak to change the shape of one tie within a chord. Thanks to Han-Wen for showing how this should be done.

Re: GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive marks, second draft

2008-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
James E. Bailey wrote Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:11 PM It looks fine to me. It might be useful to mention (if it hasn't changed) that for crescendo and diminuendo to playback in MIDI they must be terminated with \! This used to be true, but it no longer seems to be requirement in 2.11. I

Re: Tie control-points delete another tie

2008-07-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
- Original Message - From: "Marco Caliari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Tie control-points delete another tie Thank you, Trevor. On the other hand, why cannot I modify the tie

Re: NR 1.3 Expressive marks, second draft

2008-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Patrick All very clear and nicely laid out. Just a couple of suggestions: The headword music shows very few expressive marks - no dynamics, very few articulations, no phrasing slurs, arpeggios, etc. I wonder if a more suitable piece might be chosen (I know it was not your choice - Trevor ma

Re: Loop-the-Loop Ties

2008-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
You -can- make a cubic Bézier "loop-the-loop" by crossing over the two intermediate points, but then there is not enough control left to achieve a nice downward shape on the two halves. Also you would need to tune every such slur manually, which is quite tedious. Here's an example which shows wh

Re: Loop-the-Loop Ties

2008-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
aid. I've only pursued it this far because I shall shortly be documenting Bézier curves and their control-points and I needed to understand them better. Thanks for the incentive :) Trevor - Original Message ----- From: "David Pounder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tr

Re: Bar numbers collide with StaffGroup bracket

2008-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
You've probably spotted by now that the correct syntax is \context { \Score \override BarNumber #'padding = #3 } Score with a capital S is the name of the context. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Frederick Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:55 PM Subj

Re: Loop-the-Loop Ties

2008-08-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Pounder wrote: Off topic - would be interested in reading your bezier documentation - I have another un-lilypond-related reason for wanting to understand them. The wikipedia entry for Bézier curve is a good starting point - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9zier_curve Trevor

Re: Hiding end-of-line cautionary key signature and time signature

2008-08-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
You can't guess these and hope they will work! Clues to the answers to questions like these are to be found in the Program Reference (release 2.10) or the Internals Reference (release 2.11). This is not an easy manual to read, but the Learning Manual to 2.11 shows you how. Pretty much everythi

Re: polymeter

2008-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
To answer your specific problem, you need braces round the music to which the \scaleDurations should apply, else it applies only to the first c8: \relative c' { \time 5/8 \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(1 . 4) \scaleDurations #'(5 . 2) {c8 c c4} } However, if you have not already done so,

Re: polymeter

2008-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Bobroff wrote Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: Re: polymeter Thank you, the missing braces were, evidently, the problem. I had been going through section 1.2.3.4 but had had no success. Looking at it again, I see that the braces you told me about are *not* present on the mid

Re: Chord spacing issues in 2.11 series

2008-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Shamus wrote Sunday, August 03, 2008 1:51 PM I recently upgraded from 2.10.33 to 2.11.52 and noticed that SeparatingGroupSpanner is no longer available. You're right. A quick check of the git history shows it was replaced with a springs algorithm in 2.11.27. This should control the spacing a

Re: NR 1.3 Expressive marks, second draft

2008-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Francisco Not a bad suggestion. I've tried to fix the issues you mentioned - still not perfect, but better. Revised code attached. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Francisco Vila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: NR 2.9 World music, first draft

2008-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
This is a great addition to the documentation, showing the flexibility of LilyPond to advantage. As the material is outside my knowledge I have no comment to make, other than to remark on the model clarity of the writing. Wish we could all write so clearly. Trevor - Original Message -

Re: Indexing function codes

2008-08-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
I would look for a command with the back-slash if I knew it, or for the topic if I didn't, so I would suggest: @funindex \repeat @cindex repeats @funindex \alternative @cindex repeat alternatives @cindex alternative repeats @cindex first-time bar @cindex second-time bar plus lots more, like, @

Re: pedals on 2.11.53

2008-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Read "Piano pedals" in section 2.2.2 of the Notation Reference. Trevor - Original Message - From: "josepadovani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: pedals on 2.11.53 having trouble to do this c4\sostenutoDown c4\sostenutoUp... any tips? tha

Re: Backwards compatibility: \compressMusic, \scaleDurations, WHYWHY WHY

2008-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:58 AM On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:03:58 -0700 "Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You do raise a lot of interesting points though. I'm not the best person to address these concerns though. No he doesn't. At least, he hasn't raised any n

Re: lyrics following split voices

2008-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco The LM's role (at least in my view) is to introduce concepts and explanations in a logical order. It makes no attempt to be either rigorous or comprehensive, neither should it. The NR's role, in contrast, is to present complete and accurate facts, sweetened with a smattering of ex

Re: lyrics following split voices

2008-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats, you wrote, Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:26 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: So, for the example in question, the NR should certainly state categorically what the voice names are in the various constructs, and examples showing the differences would be fine. But I don't think there i

Re: Better Midi!

2008-08-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Peter Just tried your articulate.ly. Looks really promising! A couple of early comments. It may be obvious, but \articulate should only be used in a \score block with just \midi {} - it mucks up the printed output if used with \layout { }. And dynamics in the midi score block must be a

Re: SLopUF: linear LM

2008-08-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
At least that one can be easily defended :) The term "grob" is explained in the Learning Manual, and "grob" is in the index there, although I don't know if this section has yet made it to the Portuguese translation. See LM 4.1.2 Objects and interfaces. Trevor - Original Message -

Re: Better Midi!

2008-08-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Peter Chubb wrote Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:37 PM Trevor> Hi Peter Trevor> Just tried your articulate.ly. Looks really promising! A Trevor> couple of early comments. It may be obvious, but \articulate Trevor> should only be used in a \score block with just \midi {} - it Trevor> mucks up th

Re: Expert question on named contexts

2008-08-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Mats Bengtsson wrote Can anybody tell me exactly what happens with the context names in the following example. \relative c' << \new Staff \new Voice = myvoice { c d e f } \new Staff \context Voice = myvoice { g f e d } Is the Voice context in the lower stave give

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
John, you wrote Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:15 PM I proofread chapter 3 of the Learning Manual up to 3.1.4 'Modifying context properties'. This is globally great work, I wish I could read such docs instead of spending hours in trial-and-error and reading Mats' explanations on -user, when I sta

Re: drumpitches

2008-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan It's best just to refer to LM 4.6.3 Other sources of information, rather than repeating this at several points in the manuals. Add the file to the short list there. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Stefan Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lilypond-user" Sent: Sunday, Augu

Re: Expert question on named contexts

2008-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson asked Trevor Daniels wrote: My understanding is that the name given to a context is stored internally as the context's id. You can display this with the ly:context-id function. In the example above both contexts have id set to "myvoice", as least that'

Re: GDP NR talking about IR

2008-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Robin Bannister wrote Monday, August 11, 2008 9:06 AM There are a few places in the NR (version 2008-08-09) still mentioning - program reference - programmer's reference i.e. terms obsoleted by GDP. You don't say where these are, but I suspect they are still in sections not yet completed wit

Re: GDP NR talking about IR

2008-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Robin Bannister wrote Monday, August 11, 2008 1:32 PM Trevor Daniels wrote You don't say where these are, but I suspect they are still in sections not yet completed within GDP, ie sections 3 onward. NR sections 5.2.1 to 5.7.1 Thanks. At the moment chapter 5 of the Notation Refe

Re: Rhythms: add-grace-property

2008-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan The source for add-grace-property is in scm/music-functions.scm. The function does not simply set a value in 'direction - it appends an entry to a list. At the head of the function is a TODO: ;; TODO: make a remove-grace-property too. Looks like this has never been implemented. Trev

Re: GDP: Rhythms: add-grace-property

2008-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan Kulp wrote Monday, August 11, 2008 11:19 PM 1. The "add-grace-property" example currently appearing in NR does not work anymore. --#(add-grace-property 'Voice 'Stem 'direction '()) It needs to be removed or changed Correct. Have you investigated whether other properties can be cha

Re: GDP -- Revised second draft of Fretted strings

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi again Carl Another major addition! The new fretboard additions are very impressive! All very clearly and concisely written except for one paragraph, which just confused me: 2.4.1.4 Custom tablatures I found the first paragraph less than clear, maybe because I'm not familiar with tablature.

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:42 PM 2008/8/10 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Absolutely. When the LM was written the appropriate sections in the NR did not exist, or at least the headings were expected to change. Now the headings have stabilised (more or less) th

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Robin Bannister wrote: Trevor Daniels wrote I learned you can have digits in context names! --- as long as the names are in quotation marks. which I regard as slightly more confirmation of my fragile suspicion that in (the current GDP) Learning Manual 3.1.1 - In

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Robin Bannister wrote Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:36 PM Robin Bannister wrote A: 21 hits for "\context Staff" B: 14 hits for "\context { \Staff" I think I get it now. Yup - you got it. It must be that "\context" is overloaded, does two quite different things. Upon meeting a "\con

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Robin Bannister wrote Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:56 PM Statistics for NR (pdf dated 2008-08-09, only slightly stale): A: 21 hits for "\context Staff" B: 14 hits for "\context { \Staff" Or is it that I'm talking about A, and you are talking about B? Yes, or more to the point, the Learning

Re: \textLengthOn - choosing which note to lengthen

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Chris Snyder wrote Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:12 PM I'm running into a situation where \textLengthOn isn't behaving like I would expect it to. I have an organ piece where I'd like to put some text between the staves for the manuals. The text is a bit too long, however, so it hits the barline

Re: Please forget LM MG NR IR SL AU

2008-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
See, Carl, banter -is- still used in the Lily community ;) Trevor - Original Message - From: "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "lilypond" Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:24 AM Subject: Re: Please forget LM MG NR IR SL AU 2008

Re: Please forget LM MG NR IR SL AU

2008-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nicholas Wastell wrote Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:41 AM The Lilypond lists have an air of exclusivity which is already very intimidating to newcomers. Overtly abrasive attitude and widespread use of jargon and abbreviations are rife. What's acceptable and amusing between experienced users

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