footnotes?

Is there a way to create footnotes? I.e. a command to add a footnote (containing markup) to the bottom of the current page, without stopping a \score and writing a toplevel \markup ? tia, Wilbert Berendsen -- http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/ "You must be the change you wish to see in the world.

Re: LilyPond Grand Documentation Project (GDP)

I should be able to help with some of the trivial to easy sections, and possibly some medium. Thanks for your work on the documentation. It is one of the best of any project I have seen. Regards, Joe ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.

Lilypond fonts in Latex

Hi, Briefly: Has anyone created the font descriptor (*.fd) and style (*.sty) files that would enable Lilypond's fonts to be used in LaTeX? I'd like to use Lilypond's fonts in the body of a Latex document as well as using lilpond-book for the musical examples. Searching the lilypond-user archives

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Rune Zedeler wrote: Well, in its current state I find the "each subsection has its own page" version of the manual unusable, and therefore always uses the one big page manual. I suggest that we gives each section its own page containing section and all subsections. Ofcourse each section should st

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

Tim Litwiller wrote: In email setting under your account Composition & Addressing - do you have it set to Compose message in HTML format and then if you have preferred to recieve message format as plaintext in the addressbook. if they are different thunderbird will try to convert Thank you!

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Trevor Bača wrote: ~ subsection 8.4.3 "Proportional notation" can be removed completely in favor of subsection 11.6.5 "Proportional notation" I'd rather not remove subsections yet; we'll do that when we GDPify that particular chapter. ~ subsections 8.4.4 "Clusters" and 8.4.5 "Special notehe

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

Rune Zedeler wrote: Very first I comment on the stuff I wrote below: When I wrote it I didn't really notice / think about the fact the the first five sections are left out. Probably some of my comments are not totally valid. Well, I will think some more, and post another message about the overa

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Eyolf Østrem wrote: I would also say -- although this may exceed the limits of what kind of suggestions were allowed -- that one thing that is missing is a comprehensive survey of the syntax of Lilypond. Like Appendix E Cheat sheet ? It's quite limited at the moment, but is that what you're t

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Just a question... (by the way, is it really relevant to cross post this entire discussion to -devel?) I'm finishing translating the current chapter #9 (changing-defaults) and here's what I see: 9.3.2 "Suppose we want to move the fingering indication in the fragment below:" ===> but it actually

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

Graham Percival wrote: + 6.6.2 Stems Currently, this subsection has nothing to do with polyphony. Furthermore it is layout specific, and should therefore be postponed. I have _always_ hated this section. I remember trying -- and failing -- to find a home for it when I did

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Valentin Villenave wrote: Just a question... (by the way, is it really relevant to cross post this entire discussion to -devel?) We're talking about some major lilypond development work here. Documentation is still development. A better question is "is it really relevant to cross post this

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

On 10.09.2007 (05:22), Graham Percival wrote: > Rune Zedeler wrote: > >And in all cases, it is way too early. The user has not even learned what > >the "4" in "c4" means. > Tutorial. If a user hasn't read the LM, they're on their own and I have > *no* sympathy for them. That's definitely the

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Yes, I guess my main point was the on-line manual, where the splitting into separate HTML pages is a problem in some cases, like Valentin just illustrated. As far as I understand, it's the texinfo -> HTML conversion that imposes the constraint that each subsection ends up in a separate HTML. It

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

2007/9/10, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>+ 6.2.1 Clef > >>+ 6.2.2 Key signature > > > > Hmm, neither clefs nor key signatures affect pitches. They only affect > > how they are displayed. > > Yes, true. Rename section? Hell yes! What about : "Pitches not

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

On 10.09.2007 (05:28), Graham Percival wrote: > Eyolf Østrem wrote: > >I would also say -- although this may exceed the limits of what kind > >of suggestions were allowed -- that one thing that is missing is a > >comprehensive survey of the syntax of Lilypond. > Like Appendix E Cheat sheet ? It's

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

2007/9/10, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Err.. we're talking about Changing defaults, a chapter which hasn't been > significantly changed in the past three years, and which you've > _already_ complained as being a pile of garbage... and using this as an > argument for changing the way the

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

Hi Valentin, I doubt we have enough stuff to make a whole "Page layout" chapter. I disagree... There's *more* than enough for a Page Layout chapter: even if some (much?) of the material is referenced elsewhere/earlier, it would be beneficial to have a single coherent section in which all

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

On 10.09.2007 (09:06), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Valentin, > >I doubt we have enough stuff to make a whole "Page layout" chapter. > I disagree... > There's *more* than enough for a Page Layout chapter: even if some (much?) > of the material is referenced elsewhere/earlier, it would be benefi

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Am Montag, 10. September 2007 schrieb Graham Percival: > Rune Zedeler wrote: > > Well, in its current state I find the "each subsection has its own page" > > version of the manual unusable, and therefore always uses the one big > > page manual. I suggest that we gives each section its own page cont

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Le lundi 10 septembre 2007 à 14:46 +0200, Mats Bengtsson a écrit : > Yes, I guess my main point was the on-line manual, where the splitting into > separate HTML pages is a problem in some cases, like Valentin just > illustrated. As far as I understand, it's the texinfo -> HTML conversion > that >

Re: Lilypond fonts in Latex

> Briefly: Has anyone created the font descriptor (*.fd) and style > (*.sty) files that would enable Lilypond's fonts to be used in > LaTeX? No. > 1. Use lilypond-book - Seems to create a large amount of whitespace > around the character. The surrounding whitespace can be suppressed; however, i

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

Le lundi 10 septembre 2007 à 15:31 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : > Am Montag, 10. September 2007 schrieb Graham Percival: > > Rune Zedeler wrote: > > > Well, in its current state I find the "each subsection has its own page" > > > version of the manual unusable, and therefore always uses the

GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

To summarize some discussions: - there seems to be considerable dislike for the current "one-short-subsection-per-HTML-page" layout of the manual. That surprises me, since I've never had a problem with it, but of course I'm intimately familiar with the layout of the manual, so I'm happy to di

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

Hi Graham (et al.): Does anybody _like_ the current layout? In some ways, my opinion won't matter, because I don't use (nor do I really understand why anyone else uses) the HTML manual -- the PDF documentation is all I ever use because: 1. It's perfect for printing; 2. Full-text s

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

Le lundi 10 septembre 2007 à 08:00 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > To summarize some discussions: > - there seems to be considerable dislike for the current > "one-short-subsection-per-HTML-page" layout of the manual. That > surprises me, since I've never had a problem with it, but of course

Re: GDP: rearrange manual

John Mandereau wrote: We could use @anchor to get links (@ref's in Info) on the same page, but I'm not sure *Menu items can redirect to an @anchor. @menu items direct to @section items. This is no problem. We will decide about having larger HTML pages (and thus larger Info nodes) in a furth

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

On 10.09.2007 (11:09), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Graham (et al.): > >Does anybody _like_ the current layout? > That being said... ;-) > >My preference is for 2 > Me 2. Me 3. -- paak, n:A stadium or inclosed playing field. To put or leave (a a vehicle) for

Re: Lilypond fonts in Latex

> > 4. Install the feta type1 fonts. As in: > > http://www.mamster.net/tex/latex-fontfaq-amster-burton.pdf > > This is probably the most straightforward way; additionally, you can > use such fonts with virtually all TeX environments because all of them > support Type 1 fonts. After trying the o

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

Le lundi 10 septembre 2007 à 14:37 +0200, Mats Bengtsson a écrit : > Graham Percival wrote: > > > >>>+ 6.6.2 Stems > >> > >> Currently, this subsection has nothing to do with polyphony. > >> Furthermore it is layout specific, and should therefore be postponed. > > > > I have _always

Re: Lilypond fonts in Latex

> > . The LaTeX encoding of the lilypond font(s) is clearly `U'; it > > makes no sense to create a new encoding for it. > > Could you explain what you mean by `U'? Please consult the `fontenc' guide of the LaTeX base distribution. `U' means `unspecified'. > The example in the tutorial abo

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

Le lundi 10 septembre 2007 à 05:22 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > Rune Zedeler wrote: > > Very first I comment on the stuff I wrote below: When I wrote it I > > didn't really notice / think about the fact the the first five sections > > are left out. Probably some of my comments are not total

Re: Lilypond fonts in Latex

Am 2007-09-10 um 13:08 schrieb Stuart Pullinger: Briefly: Has anyone created the font descriptor (*.fd) and style (*.sty) files that would enable Lilypond's fonts to be used in LaTeX? I'd like to use Lilypond's fonts in the body of a Latex document as well as using lilpond-book for the music

Re: I'm having a problem with this file

Hi Tim, Could you mail the file to me as an attachment, I can't seem to access the file from gnu.org? Sounds like things are moving on for you :D Cheers, Ralph ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listin

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

Am 2007-09-10 um 18:29 schrieb John Mandereau: 11 Page layout (new chapter) 11.1 Paper and pages (moved from Spacing issues) 11.2 Titles and headers 11.3 Breaks (moved from Spacing issues) The problem is, this breaks the unity of Spacing stuff in a single chapter, and if we do this, we

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

Am 2007-09-10 um 17:00 schrieb Graham Percival: - Does anybody _like_ the current layout? If so, speak up now or forever hold your peace. :) No. I always use the online manual in several tabs (the fewer single pages, the fewer tabs!) and a Google tab with "site:lilypond.org/ doc/...", be

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

2007/9/10, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No. I always use the online manual in several tabs (the fewer single > pages, the fewer tabs!) and a Google tab with "site:lilypond.org/ > doc/...", because it also finds the commands in samples (in contrary > to the PDF), and often I only need a wor

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

Citat Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rune: I think it's possible with some JScript tweaking (at least, some > buzzword-compliant technologies allow to do this without frames). Maybe. I have just never seen it. Javadoc still uses frames, and about everything else I have encountered relo

Re: GDP: structure of index

Juergen Reuter wrote: Furthermore, I would like to see entries like \displayLilyMusic: Displaying LilyPond notation \displayLilyMusic: Displaying music expressions rather being structured as follows: \displayLilyMusic: Displaying LilyPond notation Displaying music expressions

Re: I'm having a problem with this file

Tim Litwiller wrote: Yeh, I'm moving along trying different suggested methods as I go, keeping notes as to what works. and what doesn't. Hi Tim, Could you mail the file to me as an attachment, I can't seem to access the file from gnu.org? Sounds like things are moving on for you :D Cheer

Re: I'm having a problem with this file

Thanks so much for that, another thing to add to my watch for this list. Ralph Little wrote: Tim Litwiller wrote: Yeh, I'm moving along trying different suggested methods as I go, keeping notes as to what works. and what doesn't. Hi Tim, Could you mail the file to me as an attachment, I

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

John Mandereau wrote: Tu sum up your suggestion, which I like quite much, I propose the following section (inside chapter 7 "Decorating musical notation", and replacing "Special use"): 7.6 Note heads and stems 7.6.1 Stems 7.6.2 Special noteheads 7.6.3 Improvisation 7.6.4 Selecting no

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

fiëé visuëlle wrote: samples (in contrary to the PDF), and often I only need a working sample of usage (the in-text samples are often too short or not on topic as I understand it or too cluttered - or too simple). Hmm. Samples are too sort, too cluttered, or too simple. That will be hard

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

> >BTW I'd like to see an forever-working URL like > >http://lilypond.org/doc/current/Documentation/ (instead of the version; > >should need only one symlink; maybe "current-stable" and "current-dev"). > Well, > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/ > gives you the current-dev. Yes, you

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Re: footnotes?

Wilbert Berendsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a way to create footnotes? I.e. a command to add a footnote > (containing markup) to the bottom of the current page, without stopping a > \score and writing a toplevel \markup ? No. However, adding numbered notes to the end of the book o

Multiple pitched trills, trillspan length

Hi I have a little issue with pitched trills: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Trills#Trills I'm trying to do this but with multiple trills. So the code looks kind of like the following: RH = \relative c'' { \clef treble \time 4/4 \key d \minor 16 \pitchedTrill d8.\st

Re: Multiple pitched trills, trillspan length

Hi Stefan, So now the first TrillSpan collides with the second. Is there a possibility to decimate the length of the trill span somehow? See . Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-u

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

Am 2007-09-10 um 20:45 schrieb Graham Percival: fiëé visuëlle wrote: samples (in contrary to the PDF), and often I only need a working sample of usage (the in-text samples are often too short or not on topic as I understand it or too cluttered - or too simple). Hmm. Samples are too sort, to

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I know we're now drifting away from the goal of restructuring the documentation into sections. Instead, this thread seems to be turning into improving the general documentation system, which I regard as a step that should be done before going into d

Re: LilyPond Grand Documentation Project (GDP)

Hi Graham, I'm willing to help in any of the trivial, easy or medium categories. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: GDP: rearrangement (third attempt)

fiëé visuëlle wrote: How about collecting the page layout with other print related stuff like lilypond-book, graphics formats etc.? As collecting the sound output related (everything else than MIDI?) No, lilypond-book is in the Program Usage now. The manual deals with lilypond input format.

PianoStaff spacing in 2.11

Hi everybody, A short while back, I was under the misapprehension that there was something wrong with the spacing in piano staves when using version 2.11. Having erroneously submitted a bug report to this effect, I found out that thanks to the new spacing engine, the fixed distance workaround pres

GDP: read the 2.11 docs

To anybody involved in the GDP discussion, please take a few minutes to look at the documentation for 2.11. There have been a few significant changes since 2.10; please look at those changes so we avoid reinventing the wheel. Specifically, - Manual is only for lilypond input format. - Progra

Re: GDP: structure of index

Le lundi 10 septembre 2007 à 11:06 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > Juergen Reuter wrote: > > Furthermore, I would like to see entries like > > > > \displayLilyMusic: Displaying LilyPond notation > > \displayLilyMusic: Displaying music expressions > > > > rather being structured as follows:

Re: GDP: length/page-splitting of subsections

Le lundi 10 septembre 2007 à 20:49 +0200, Eyolf Østrem a écrit : > > >BTW I'd like to see an forever-working URL like > > >http://lilypond.org/doc/current/Documentation/ (instead of the version; > > >should need only one symlink; maybe "current-stable" and "current-dev"). > > > Well, > > http://

how to "damp" TupletBracket slope?

I'd like to be able to "damp" TupletBrackets the way you can damp Beams to force horizontal TupletBrackets. I can't seem to find a similar method in the docs (I'm using 2.11.32). It seems that there was a "delta-y" argument for bracket slope in a much much older version of Lily . . . Is there a

Re: PianoStaff spacing in 2.11

On 9/10/07, Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > A short while back, I was under the misapprehension that there was something > wrong with the spacing in piano staves when using version 2.11. Having > erroneously submitted a bug report to this effect, I found out that thanks

Re: how to "damp" TupletBracket slope?

On 9/10/07, Adam James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to be able to "damp" TupletBrackets the way you can damp > Beams to force horizontal TupletBrackets. I can't seem to find a > similar method in the docs (I'm using 2.11.32). > > It seems that there was a "delta-y" argument for bra

Re: how to "damp" TupletBracket slope?

Hi Adam, I'd like to be able to "damp" TupletBrackets the way you can damp Beams to force horizontal TupletBrackets. I can't seem to find a similar method in the docs (I'm using 2.11.32). %%% BEGIN SNIPPET %%% \version "2.11.32" triplets = \relative c''' { \tupletUp \times 2

Re: footnotes?

Wilbert Berendsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a way to create footnotes? I.e. a command to add a footnote > (containing markup) to the bottom of the current page, without stopping a > \score and writing a toplevel \markup ? I don't think there is[1], and I definitely think it would b

GTK and LilyPond

I use LilyPond 2.10.29 on Windows 2000. I've long noticed that installing the GTK separately from LilyPond (as it is needed for other programs) sometimes causes problems (and so does installing LilyPond after installing the separate GTK). Is it possible to get a distribution of LilyPond that d

Re: sunday school songs

Are they hymns you're dealing with? If so, I might recommend using a template of mine and looking at the source of some full songs, comparing it (the source) with the music while looking for how to do certain things. All of the articles linked from the following URL have hymns/songs made with

Re: how to "damp" TupletBracket slope?

Thanks again Kieren and Trevor! Maybe you can help me with a separate issue involving beaming tuplets to non-tuplets (I'll also publish this to the list under an appropriate heading): It seems you can beam together tuplets followed by non-tuplets: \times 2/3 {c'16[ c'8 } c'16 c'16] But beaming

how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

It seems you can beam together tuplets followed by non-tuplets (v. 2.11): \times 2/3 {c'16[ c'8 } c'16 c'16] But beaming together non-tuplets followed by tuplets fails with an "unexpected ']'" error: c'16[ c'16 \times 2/3 {c'16 c'8 } ] Any known methods/hacks to get the second beaming example t

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Nevermind - I've answered my own question - here it is, for those interested: r16[ g16 \times 2/3 {r16 e'8] } Best, Adam On 9/10/07, Adam James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems you can beam together tuplets followed by non-tuplets (v. 2.11): > > \times 2/3 {c'16[ c'8 } c'16 c'16] > >

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Perhaps two examples - one manually beaming non-tuplets->tuplets and one manually beaming tuplets->non-tuplets (maybe just the examples below) - could be added to the 2.11 manual under "tuplets?" I'd be happy to write up a little chunk of text if that would help. Best, Adam On 9/10/07, Adam Jame