Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

David Kastrup writes: > Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > >> Reinhold Kainhofer writes: >> A) Development of ly2xml >>> >>> Reviewers would probably argue that this is not really scientific >>> research and should be funded by an industry partner instead. >> >> Some may even note that the hardest

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > >>> A) Development of ly2xml >> >> Reviewers would probably argue that this is not really scientific >> research and should be funded by an industry partner instead. > > Some may even note that the hardest part of this has already been > pr

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Reinhold Kainhofer writes: >> A) Development of ly2xml > > Reviewers would probably argue that this is not really scientific > research and should be funded by an industry partner instead. Some may even note that the hardest part of this has already been prototyped as part of schikkers list and a

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On 09/02/2012 12:08, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > I have tried getting grants from different EU and national bodies with > various partner institutions (including the one where Graham now > works, IIRC). My impression is that you need people (preferably many) > with lots of academic clout that can sig

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On 10/02/12 21:11, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/2/10 David Kastrup: Janek Warchoł writes: - Sergei Rachmaninoff died in March 1943. If we start a year-long project now, we will finish roughly when most of his works will fall out of copyright. How would one cooperate while they are not yet out o

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

"Chris Crossen" writes: > lilypond-user-bounces+chris=crossen@gnu.org wrote: >> >> On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:38 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> Every publishing company will entertain a zombie house where some >>> parts of composers/writers are kept legally alive for the sake of >>> copyright e

RE: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

f Tim McNamara Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:15 To: User LilyPond Subject: Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:38 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > I expect that in a few years, composers becoming famous in their life > time wi

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:38 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > I expect that in a few years, composers becoming famous in their life > time will get life support systems paid by their publishers, preferably > after they are brain dead but in a defensible way not legally dead, in > order to be able to extend

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012/2/10 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: >> - Sergei Rachmaninoff died in March 1943.  If we start a year-long >> project now, we will finish roughly when most of his works will fall >> out of copyright. > > How would one cooperate while they are not yet out of copyright?  Want > to risk

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

There are loads of music up to the 20th century that wait to be published in a good edition, but I think the kikstarter was so successful mostly because the Goldbergs are a quite popular and famous. We could easily find something appealing to scholars like me (I dream of and integral of Torelli :)

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Janek Warchoł writes: > 2012/2/10 Nick Payne : >> On 10/02/12 10:00, Janek Warchoł wrote: >>> Heck, let's do it! >>> Do you know of any famous pieces of music without freely accessible >>> scores? [...] >> >> The minimum required by the Berne convention is 50 years beyond the authors >> death bef

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012/2/10 Nick Payne : > On 10/02/12 10:00, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> Heck, let's do it! >> Do you know of any famous pieces of music without freely accessible >> scores? [...] > > The minimum required by the Berne convention is 50 years beyond the authors > death before a work becomes public domain.

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On 10/02/12 10:00, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/2/9 Xavier Scheuer: 2012/2/9 Janek Warchoł: Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous piece (like Mozart's Requiem)? The funds would be split between typeset

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:00:21AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > Do you know of any famous pieces of music without freely accessible > scores? I have only one shot now, but it isn't perfect: Samuel > Barber's "Adagio for Strings" was composed in 1936 but the composer > died not-so-long-ago (1981).

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012/2/9 Xavier Scheuer : > 2012/2/9 Janek Warchoł : >> >> Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what >> about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous >> piece (like Mozart's Requiem)?  The funds would be split between >> typesetter and programmer who im

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:04:35 +0100 Xavier Scheuer wrote: > 2012/2/9 Janek Warchoł : > > > > Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what > > about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous > > piece (like Mozart's Requiem)? The funds would be split between

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012/2/9 Janek Warchoł : > > Not sure if i understand correctly how Kickstarter works, but what > about a project for creating a free typeset edition of some famous > piece (like Mozart's Requiem)? The funds would be split between > typesetter and programmer who implements necessary features. I c

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012/2/9 Carl Sorensen : > On 2/9/12 5:38 AM, "Nils" wrote: > >>Kickstarter is USA only. > > But someone in the USA can do a kickstarter project and spend the money > any way they want to. > > I thought about kickstarter as well.  But what would you promise the > investors as return on the project

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

For what it's worth, I know of several musicians who have successfully funded international Kickstarter projects. On Thursday, February 09, 2012 09:40:22 AM Carl Sorensen wrote: > On 2/9/12 5:38 AM, "Nils" wrote: > >Kickstarter is USA only. > > But someone in the USA can do a kickstarter projec

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On 2/9/12 5:38 AM, "Nils" wrote: >Kickstarter is USA only. But someone in the USA can do a kickstarter project and spend the money any way they want to. I thought about kickstarter as well. But what would you promise the investors as return on the project? A free copy of LilyPond? Not much

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Kickstarter is USA only. On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:01:08 +0100 Brent Annable wrote: > Just an idea: how about a Kickstarter project? > Or has this already been considered? > > Brent. > > On 9 February 2012 12:08, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Just an idea: how about a Kickstarter project? Or has this already been considered? Brent. On 9 February 2012 12:08, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > I've been thinking about the problem of sustaining LilyPond dev

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > I've been thinking about the problem of sustaining LilyPond development > long-term (and specifically the problem of obtaining enough money to > support David K as long as he's interested). > > As I've thought about it, going after a grant se

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Janek Warchoł writes: > 2012/2/8 Nils : >> I have only read half of this thread, but is it about finding people >> or supporting the existent Lilypond Developers with money to do >> their regular great work? > > More of the latter, but to make it possible it might be necessary to > find some peop

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012/2/8 Nils : > I have only read half of this thread, but is it about finding people or > supporting the existent Lilypond Developers with money to do their regular > great work? More of the latter, but to make it possible it might be necessary to find some people first. I.e. there are small

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On 8 Feb 2012, at 20:57, Nils wrote: > The reason is that musicology here has more to do with Biographics or > Sociology. Music instrument training, notation knowledge or other > fundamentals of music are not required to study or teach it (University > Level) it in Germany. Search instead for M

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:24:08 + Graham Percival wrote: > Depends on how international you want to go, how closely tied to > music it needs to be, and how academic the people need to be. > There's Peter Chubb in Australia; he worked on the robotic > clarinet player. My supervisor in the UK had

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 07:11:26PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 2/8/12 11:01 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > >I can not see this funding non-Americans working outside of > >America. > > If you look at the links, many of the successful grants either invite or > require multiple country in

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On 2/8/12 11:01 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: >On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 02:29:00PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> So I looked into the National Endowment for the Arts and the >> National Endowment for the Humanities. > >I could see this funding Americans to work on lilypond programming >while liv

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 02:29:00PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> So I looked into the National Endowment for the Arts and the >> National Endowment for the Humanities. > > I could see this funding Americans to work on lilypond programming > while living in America. > >

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 02:29:00PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: > So I looked into the National Endowment for the Arts and the > National Endowment for the Humanities. I could see this funding Americans to work on lilypond programming while living in America. I could see this potentially funding A

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012/2/8 Carl Sorensen : > Guidelines for the preservation grant (which will probably be due in July) > are shown here: > http://www.neh.gov/grants/guidelines/HCRR.html > > Guidelines for the digital humanities grants are shown here: > http://www.neh.gov/grants/guidelines/digitalhumanitiesstartup.h

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Carl Sorensen writes: > Developers, > > I've been thinking about the problem of sustaining LilyPond development > long-term (and specifically the problem of obtaining enough money to > support David K as long as he's interested). One problem with grants is that they make it _much_ harder than in

Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

Developers, I've been thinking about the problem of sustaining LilyPond development long-term (and specifically the problem of obtaining enough money to support David K as long as he's interested). As I've thought about it, going after a grant seems the most logical thing to do. So I looked into