2010/8/3 Timo Virtaneva :
> Thanks Xavier.
> Just what I hoped for.
You're welcome.
But be careful, there might be some drawbacks if you use it
simultaneously with some "normal" staves.
Cheers,
Xavier
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2010/8/2 Timo Virtaneva :
> Hi
>
> I have seached for a solution without any luck. I hope some one could
> help me.
>
> I cannot get the bar lines aligned as I want. What is wrong in the
> code?
>
> I just need guitar chords like this
>
> | G | C, D7 | G | C, D7 |
> | G | C, D7 | G
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Given this situation, it seems to me that the best thing to do is to just
put both examples (DevNull and hidden voice) in the LSR, and have them show
up in selected snippets.
None of the solutions is so good that I think they should be included in the
main portion of the
If I may...
BTW I'm not sure whether this topic belongs in fretted strings or in
chords or what. Any thoughts?
From an editorial point of view, I think this should find a home in a
sub-section titled "Song Sheets" or something similar under "Vocal
Music." I don't believe it belongs under "F
Given this situation, it seems to me that the best thing to do is to just
put both examples (DevNull and hidden voice) in the LSR, and have them show
up in selected snippets.
None of the solutions is so good that I think they should be included in the
main portion of the manual.
Carl
On 12/11/0
Jonathan, if you read the follow-up email I sent to Carl's answer, you
will realize that this solution still has problems, that unfortunately
can be at least as severe as those you get from the DevNull solution.
/Mats
Quoting Jonathan Kulp :
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 11/28/08 4:47 AM,
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 11/28/08 4:47 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" wrote:
There's major problem with your proposed \hideAll (or whatever you want
to call it), namely
that the hidden voice will influence the placement of the other voices,
since LilyPond will
try to avoid collisions with the hidden
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:24:39PM +, Keith Weintraub wrote:
> I have been trying to follow the docs (2.10.33) for making just chord symbol
> sheets for guitar.
Don't. 2.11 has vastly improved chord symbols and documentation.
Cheers,
- Graham
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Keith Weintraub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would like the measures to be 4 per line. And I would like them to line up
> from one line to the next.
For this purpose I'd suggest you take a look at
http://johan.vromans.org/software/sw_playtab.html .
(The most recent version also accepts chords
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 11/28/08 4:47 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There's major problem with your proposed \hideAll (or whatever you want
to call it), namely
that the hidden voice will influence the placement of the other voices,
since LilyPond will
try to avoid col
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
There's major problem with your proposed \hideAll (or whatever you want
to call it), namely
that the hidden voice will influence the placement of the other voices,
since LilyPond will
try to avoid collisions with the hidden note heads. Therefore, this
solution is not reall
On 11/28/08 4:47 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's major problem with your proposed \hideAll (or whatever you want
> to call it), namely
> that the hidden voice will influence the placement of the other voices,
> since LilyPond will
> try to avoid collisions with the hid
There's major problem with your proposed \hideAll (or whatever you want
to call it), namely
that the hidden voice will influence the placement of the other voices,
since LilyPond will
try to avoid collisions with the hidden note heads. Therefore, this
solution is not really working
if you want t
Graham Percival wrote Friday, November 28, 2008 10:42 AM
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:04:50AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
ok, let's make a \hideNotation or \hideAll or something like that
for printing lyrics + chords.
\hideNotation is a bit too close to \hideNotes.
\hideAll, \unHideAll look
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:04:50AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
>
> Graham Percival wrote Friday, November 28, 2008 7:49 AM
>
>> Let me put it this way: should \hideNotes *only* hide the noteheads
>> and steams, or should \hideNotes hide everything? My first
>
> By using a second voice with \hideN
Graham Percival wrote Friday, November 28, 2008 7:49 AM
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:15:39PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 11/27/08 8:06 PM, "Jonathan Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Graham Percival wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
>>> makeTransp
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:15:39PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
>
> On 11/27/08 8:06 PM, "Jonathan Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Graham Percival wrote:
> >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> >>> makeTransparent = {
> >>> \override NoteHead #'transparent =
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
I'll try to come up with something. My first one was \makeItVanish but
that seems too flippant for the docs :)
How about hideVoiceNotation?
I like that.
Don't forget to include slurs.
Good catch. There are none in this example but it would be remiss not to
inclu
On 11/27/08 8:06 PM, "Jonathan Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Graham Percival wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
>>> makeTransparent = {
>>> \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
>>> \override Stem #'transparent = ##t
>>> \override TupletBracket #'brac
Graham Percival wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
makeTransparent = {
\override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
This could be added to ly/property-init.ly. Oh, and indentatio
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> makeTransparent = {
> \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
> \override Stem #'transparent = ##t
> \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
This could be added to ly/property-init.ly. Oh, and indentation.
And possibly a d
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
For me the main issue here is that if I *only* want chords and lyrics, I
want the lyrics to be spaced according to proper typography, and I want the
chords to just follow along with the lyrics, instead of having both the
chords and the lyrics spaced according to the durati
For me the main issue here is that if I *only* want chords and lyrics, I
want the lyrics to be spaced according to proper typography, and I want the
chords to just follow along with the lyrics, instead of having both the
chords and the lyrics spaced according to the duration of the non-visible
mus
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
I got exactly the same output with the Devnull approach as with the
durations added to the lyrics.
I can't see any difference at all in the output of the two approaches.
Are you doing something different? If so, I'd really like to see it.
Thanks,
Carl
The differ
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
That sounds good. Where do the most current .itely files live now? If
you want I'll add a bit about this.
I'll create a branch for your documentation and give you a copy of the
current .itely file, but it will probably be Friday (but maybe tomorrow).
Carl
Ok Ca
"Carl D. Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But LilyPond is transposable, ... one of the things I
> really like about LilyPond is that I can transpose songs
> automatically.
Chordii can handle that as well.
-- Johan
Chord is alive! http://chordii.sourceforge.net
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2008/11/27 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Now, the @TODO in the .itely file was, I think, referring to a different
> sort of "just chords and lyrics," where there was actually no music staff at
> all, just chord symbols and lyrics. *That* was the result for which I
> recommended a word proce
2008/11/26 strk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 06:49:11PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote:
>> 2008/11/25 Keith Weintraub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Folks,
>> > Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just
>> > chords
>> > and lyrics?
>> >
>> > I don't want to
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 07:49:44PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> I took strk's example and turned it into what I think he wants by the
> rather crude method of making everything in the melody transparent and
> turning the rests into skips. This works better than devnull for
> preserving the pla
On 11/26/08 9:27 PM, "Brett Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sometimes you want this as part of a larger set of outputs, e.g. you are
> printing out parts for the vocalist, bass, sax AND the guitarist who
> just wants the lyrics and the chords (because he can't/won't read
> musical notat
Brett Duncan wrote:
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Yes, this works, but it only confirms my belief that someone who wants
this really would be better off with a word processor or GuitarTeX.
The spacing looks awful without a staff, not at all the sort of thing
you normally see in a songbook of this typ
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Yes, this works, but it only confirms my belief that someone who wants
this really would be better off with a word processor or GuitarTeX. The
spacing looks awful without a staff, not at all the sort of thing you
normally see in a songbook of this type. (If the staff is
On 11/26/08 8:21 PM, "Jonathan Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
>
>>> Lilypond do it. Maybe we should put an example in the docs anyway,
>>> though. I suppose at the very least it would show people how to do it
>>> and it wouldn't come up on the list anymore (or we'
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Lilypond do it. Maybe we should put an example in the docs anyway,
though. I suppose at the very least it would show people how to do it
and it wouldn't come up on the list anymore (or we'd have a place to
direct them when it did). Maybe we could do one example with a
On 11/26/08 7:15 PM, "Jonathan Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
>> Jon,
>
> Yes, this works, but it only confirms my belief that someone who wants
> this really would be better off with a word processor or GuitarTeX. The
> spacing looks awful without a staff, not at
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Jon,
If you take away the Staff from strk's example, and do it the way I had my
original, you'll have just what you want.
The score should contain:
<<
\new ChordNames {
\myChords
}
\new Devnull = "Melody" {
\myMelody
}
\new Lyrics {
\lyricsto "Mel
Jon,
If you take away the Staff from strk's example, and do it the way I had my
original, you'll have just what you want.
The score should contain:
<<
\new ChordNames {
\myChords
}
\new Devnull = "Melody" {
\myMelody
}
\new Lyrics {
\lyricsto "Melody" \myMelody
}
>>
Try
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 11/26/08 4:34 PM, "strk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:07:42PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
If a good way to do this arises from this thread, let's add it to the
fretted-strings.itely file for future ref. It was a @TODO when I was
rewriting
On 11/26/08 4:34 PM, "strk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:07:42PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
>
>> If a good way to do this arises from this thread, let's add it to the
>> fretted-strings.itely file for future ref. It was a @TODO when I was
>> rewriting fretted strin
The right way to do this is to develop a function that adds durations to
lyric syllables based on a music expression (you can see the prototype in
the \lyricsto c++ source code). I plan to work on this sometime in the
future (probably first with scheme).
I think it can solve the \lyricsto \partco
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:07:42PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> If a good way to do this arises from this thread, let's add it to the
> fretted-strings.itely file for future ref. It was a @TODO when I was
> rewriting fretted strings but it was something I didn't see the need for
> (I had the
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
The problem is that the implicit melismata generated by the ties are ignored
in the Devnull context, as described in the 2.11 documentation (Notation
Ref. Section 2.1.4 Specific Lyrics, subsection Lyrics independent of notes).
Note: Use the 2.11 docs instead of the 2.10
On 11/26/08 3:52 PM, "strk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks !
> Too verbose for my taste but oh well...
You could define your own commands (right after
the \version statement):
#(define ms melisma)
#(define me melismaEnd)
and then change your melody to
% Amado mio
r4 e a4. c,8 |
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 03:30:31PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
> On 11/26/08 2:59 PM, "strk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Confront these two:
> >
> > (1)
> > http://foo.keybit.net/~strk/tmp/amadomio.pdf
> > http://foo.keybit.net/~strk/tmp/amadomio.ly
> >
> > (2)
> > http://foo.keybit.net
On 11/26/08 2:59 PM, "strk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:45:54PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/08 2:43 PM, "strk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:57:43PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Here's one possible sol
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:45:54PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/26/08 2:43 PM, "strk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:57:43PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
> >> Here's one possible solution:
> >>
> >> \version "2.11.64"
> >
> >> \new Devnull = "m
On 11/26/08 2:43 PM, "strk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:57:43PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
>> Here's one possible solution:
>>
>> \version "2.11.64"
>
>> \new Devnull = "myVoice" \myMelody
>> \new Lyrics {
>> \lyricsto "myVoice" \myLyrics
>> }
>
> I
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:57:43PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
> Here's one possible solution:
>
> \version "2.11.64"
> \new Devnull = "myVoice" \myMelody
> \new Lyrics {
> \lyricsto "myVoice" \myLyrics
> }
I tried with 2.10.33 but doesn't work.
I get the warnigns you mention, but l
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 06:49:11PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote:
> 2008/11/25 Keith Weintraub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Folks,
> > Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just
> > chords
> > and lyrics?
> >
> > I don't want to worry about the notes and just want to put wor
Absolutely, if you only want to make nothing but chords and lyrics.
However, if you want to set music, and then make an extraction containing
only chords and lyrics, the Devnull trick works.
Also, if you want to have multiple stanzas of lyrics, you only have to enter
the durations once, and you c
In this example, I don't see any point of using the DevNull trick to
align the lyrics. It's just as easy to explicitly insert the durations
directly in the lyrics, something like:
\version "2.11.64"
myChords = \chordmode {
c1 g f c
}
myLyrics = \lyricmode {
Hi2 there4 let's |
have fun with
On 11/26/08 12:05 AM, "Brett Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
>> Here's one possible solution:
>>
>
> I'm using version 2.11.63, rather than 2.11.64, and I don't get any
> warnings - I don't get any output either! No pdf is generated. Rather
> strange.
>
> Brett
Oops
See
http://www.nabble.com/Creating-a-nice-formatted-Chords-%2B-Lyrics-layout-for-guitar-players-to13829430.html#a13829430
for a working example.
Keith Weintraub-3 wrote:
>
> Folks,
> Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just
> chords
> and lyrics?
>
> I don't wan
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Here's one possible solution:
\version "2.11.64"
myChords = \chordmode {
c1 g f c
}
myMelody = {
c2 c4 c4 |
c4 c c c |
c4 c c c |
c2 c
}
myLyrics = \lyricmode {
Hi there let's |
have fun with this |
Here we have fun |
don't we
}
<<
\new ChordNames
> > You do not need a music score typesetting system to do this, just use> > a
> > word processor or a spreadsheet. > Yes, but if you have a piece of music
> > that you want to extract different > parts out of, and one of those is a
> > chord-and-lyrics chart for a > guitarist who can't tell te
Francisco Vila wrote:
2008/11/25 Keith Weintraub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Folks,
Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords
and lyrics?
I don't want to worry about the notes and just want to put word phrases
more-or-less aligned with the correct measures.
You d
On 25.11.2008 (20:56), Johan Vromans wrote:
> Try http://chordii.sourceforge.net .
Hey, that looks nice! Another approach, for which I'm partly but indirectly
responsible, is Seal (http://www.math.tu-dresden.de/~kuettler/seal/), which
doesn't have much to do with the original request, but which m
Keith Weintraub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of
> just chords and lyrics?
Try http://chordii.sourceforge.net .
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2008/11/25 Keith Weintraub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Folks,
> Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords
> and lyrics?
>
> I don't want to worry about the notes and just want to put word phrases
> more-or-less aligned with the correct measures.
You do not need a mu
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