Re: Usability Question

2007-01-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Bertalan Fodor escreveu: > Yes, I'm working on it. > > Bert > > Brett Duncan írta: >> Bertalan Fodor wrote: >>> A visual slur tweaking tool exists (see in the archives.) Have you >>> tried that? >> I have now - and it's great! Bertalan, have you considered including >> this in/with LilyPondTool?

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Yes, I'm working on it. Bert Brett Duncan írta: Bertalan Fodor wrote: A visual slur tweaking tool exists (see in the archives.) Have you tried that? I have now - and it's great! Bertalan, have you considered including this in/with LilyPondTool? ___

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-19 Thread Brett Duncan
Bertalan Fodor wrote: A visual slur tweaking tool exists (see in the archives.) Have you tried that? I have now - and it's great! Bertalan, have you considered including this in/with LilyPondTool? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Bertalan Fodor
A visual slur tweaking tool exists (see in the archives.) Have you tried that? > I'm going to play with that a little more, to make sure I really > understand what it's doing. Incidentally, is there a way to extract the > control points of a slur automatically generated by LP? I tried > \displa

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Graham Percival
Brett Duncan wrote: I'm going to play with that a little more, to make sure I really understand what it's doing. Incidentally, is there a way to extract the control points of a slur automatically generated by LP? I tried \displayMusic but it didn't tell me anything about the control points. T

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Brett Duncan
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Brett Duncan wrote: << \new Voice="3" { \voiceThree b'4} There's no point in naming the contexts here. You could save some typing by simply saying \new Voice { \voiceThree b'4} Thanks Mats - I'd followed what Rutger had posted, and assumed that the con

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I do see now how this notation issue could work. I am just afraid that this is far too much of an overhead work to do this for each one of the six sonatas and partitas by Bach. Well, I'm after more then two hundred pages is LilyPond score, including some 50 pages of more complicated ones, I'

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Brett Duncan wrote: %--- \version "2.10.12" #(set-global-staff-size 17) \header { title = \markup \center-align \italic { "Sonata 1ma a Violino Solo senza Basso di J. S. Bach"} } \include "deutsch.ly" voiceFive = { \voiceOne \shiftOnn } melody = \new Staff {

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Upro
Dear Brett, thanks a lot for your input which was indeed very helpful! I do see now how this notation issue could work. I am just afraid that this is far too much of an overhead work to do this for each one of the six sonatas and partitas by Bach. Thanks a lot, all the folks out there, for your

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Frédéric Chiasson escreveu: > I am not a programmer. I can't start to program myself to make an > interface. But I may suggest some clues for design. It may be possible No. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notat

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Brett Duncan
Hi Upro, based on what others have contributed here, especially about voiceFive, here's my attempt to reproduce what appeared in the JPEG. It's pretty close - there is the small matter of the slant on the second set of beamed notes, which Carl already noted. The last slur also seems to end in

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It seems I didn't look carefully enough at the output after doing some final modifications. However, if you replace the definition of myVoiceFive by myVoiceFive = { \myVoiceOne \shiftOnn } then everything seems to work as it should. It's weird, since these two definitions should be completely equi

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Frédéric Chiasson wrote: Hi! For the compiling time, I am surprised that sometimes it takes almost a minute to compile only 3 pages of music for alto, double bass and piano! The fastest is 30 seconds. I am using LilyPond 2.11.11 on a MacBook Intel Core Duo with 512 Mb. There have been bug

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
Hi! For the compiling time, I am surprised that sometimes it takes almost a minute to compile only 3 pages of music for alto, double bass and piano! The fastest is 30 seconds. I am using LilyPond 2.11.11 on a MacBook Intel Core Duo with 512 Mb. For the interface, the best thing for a text entry

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Andrzej Kopec escreveu: > I also have a usability question. I'm using lilypond-2.10.11 (linux > executable) on intel centrino 1.4MHz with 256MB of RAM, and I cannot > render 10 page chamber piece of music due to lack of memory. after > 15 min I stop "Layout outputting to 'xxx.ps'" and I found outp

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Graham Percival
Andrzej Kopec wrote: I also have a usability question. I'm using lilypond-2.10.11 (linux executable) on intel centrino 1.4MHz with 256MB of RAM, and I cannot render 10 page chamber piece of music due to lack of memory. after 15 min I stop "Layout outputting to 'xxx.ps'" and I found outputted 4

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello, Andrzej: your experiences with large lilypond projects [...] and your hardware? I recently typeset my 42-page chamber opera score (in Lilypond 2.9). If I recall correctly, it took between 1 and 2 minutes to generate the full score (on an Apple MacBook with 2GHz Intel Core Duo). Hope

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Bertalan Fodor
First of all, here's an alternative version of your code that hopefully is somewhat closer to what you want. Mats, this also says clashing notecolumns in the first note (and merges them to one position) (with 2.10.11) ___ lilypond-user mailing li

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Andrzej Kopec
Hi, I also have a usability question. I'm using lilypond-2.10.11 (linux executable) on intel centrino 1.4MHz with 256MB of RAM, and I cannot render 10 page chamber piece of music due to lack of memory. after 15 min I stop "Layout outputting to 'xxx.ps'" and I found outputted 4 pages of 10. If I

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
You have received a large number of answers already, but I'm not sure how many of your original questions have really been answered. First of all, here's an alternative version of your code that hopefully is somewhat closer to what you want. #(set-global-staff-size 17) % \version "2.10.7"

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Jonathan Henkelman wrote: Upro gmail.com> writes: I admit that not finding the function for a simple line brake was not very smart of me. I have studied the online-manual thouroughly, but it's not easy to find solutions there, and I haven't found them for the descripbed problems. Tr

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Bertalan Fodor wrote: The scan that was provided shows two of the stem-up notes aligned. I suppose that that could be an engraving error from the scanned piece. It's a polyphonic Bach violin peace: they are separate voices, not chords, they figure melodies (despite there are notes b

RE: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Bertalan Fodor wrote: > > > The scan that was provided shows > > two of the stem-up notes aligned. I suppose that that could be an > > engraving error from the scanned piece. > > It's a polyphonic Bach violin peace: they are separate > voices, not chords, they figure melodies (despite there

Re: usability question - how to search manual

2007-01-17 Thread Tim Reeves
>> I admit that not finding the function for a simple line brake was not very >> smart of me. I have studied the online-manual thouroughly, but it's not easy >> to find solutions there, and I haven't found them for the descripbed >> problems. >Try the PDF version as it is really easy to search.

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Bertalan Fodor
> The scan that was provided shows > two of the stem-up notes aligned. I suppose that that could be an engraving > error from the scanned piece. It's a polyphonic Bach violin peace: they are separate voices, not chords, they figure melodies (despite there are notes between in the first noise)

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
Rutger Hofman cs.vu.nl> writes: > > But the whole point of this \voiceFive thingy is that none of the four > notes in the first quarter should line up, and especially not the three > notes with stem upwards. > > Rutger > I'm not sure I agree with this conclusion. The scan that was provided

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Rutger Hofman
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Bert wrote: Yes! And it *works* ! Rutger voiceFive = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 4) 'Voice) << { \voiceOne g''4 ~ \stemDown g32[ f( es d c b a b64 )g] } \\ { \voiceThree b4} \\ { \voiceFive d,} \\ { \voiceTwo g,}\\>> Bert I trie

RE: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Bert wrote: > >>> > >> Yes! And it *works* ! > >> > >> Rutger > >> > >> > > > > > voiceFive = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 4) 'Voice) > > << { \voiceOne g''4 ~ \stemDown g32[ f( es d c b a b64 )g] } > \\ { \voiceThree b4} \\ { \voiceFive d,} \\ { \voiceTwo g,}\\>>

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Upro escreveu: > Hello! > > I have been using Lilypond some years ago, without needs for too good > formattzig, but now I decided to try to make an edition for a major > publisher with lilypond. Interesting! Which one? > (etc) If it's really important, you could consider reserving a cut of wh

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Jonathan Henkelman
Upro gmail.com> writes: > I admit that not finding the function for a simple line brake was not very > smart of me. I have studied the online-manual thouroughly, but it's not easy > to find solutions there, and I haven't found them for the descripbed > problems. Try the PDF version as it is real

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-17 Thread Bertalan Fodor
If you look at the definition of voice you will see: voiceOne = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 0) 'Voice) voiceTwo = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 1) 'Voice) voiceThree =#(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 2) 'Voice) voiceFour = #(context-spec-music (make-voic

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
Rutger Hofman cs.vu.nl> writes: > > Bertalan Fodor wrote: > > > >> I also tried this with \voiceOne etc (with version 2.8.8, admittedly), > >> and couldn't get the first chord to print as 4 different voices of > >> which three have upward stems. Lilypond gives me "warning: ignoring > >> too

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-16 Thread Rutger Hofman
Bertalan Fodor wrote: I also tried this with \voiceOne etc (with version 2.8.8, admittedly), and couldn't get the first chord to print as 4 different voices of which three have upward stems. Lilypond gives me "warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns", and collapses all three into one

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-16 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I also tried this with \voiceOne etc (with version 2.8.8, admittedly), and couldn't get the first chord to print as 4 different voices of which three have upward stems. Lilypond gives me "warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns", and collapses all three into one chord. If we would ha

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-16 Thread Rutger Hofman
Bertalan Fodor wrote: > Graham Percival-2 wrote: Upro wrote: 1. The score has four voises. All have their own stems. I find it extremely complicated to arrange stems/notes in the same order (right to left), and stems in the correct direction. I personally would condense this down to one

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-16 Thread Bertalan Fodor
1. The score has four voises. All have their own stems. I find it extremely complicated to arrange stems/notes in the same order (right to left), and stems in the correct direction. I personally would condense this down to one or possibly two voices. Somebody else might have other sugge

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-16 Thread Graham Percival
Upro wrote: Graham Percival-2 wrote: I personally would condense this down to one or possibly two voices. Somebody else might have other suggestions. Suggestions like condensing a four voiced, polyphonic piece by Bach for an Urtext edition for one of the major publishers seems to me a strange

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-16 Thread Upro
Graham Percival-2 wrote: > > Upro wrote: >> 1. The score has four voises. All have their own stems. I find it >> extremely >> complicated to arrange stems/notes in the same order (right to left), and >> stems in the correct direction. > > I personally would condense this down to one or possibl

Re: Usability Question

2007-01-16 Thread Graham Percival
Upro wrote: 1. The score has four voises. All have their own stems. I find it extremely complicated to arrange stems/notes in the same order (right to left), and stems in the correct direction. I personally would condense this down to one or possibly two voices. Somebody else might have other