Hi Kieren,
thanks for the info. I reviewed my stylesheets and now I am ready
whenever you are. I just didn't want to loose touch with this initiative.
Cheers,
Joram
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Hi Joram,
> did I miss something or what happened to GASP?
It’s on a (hopefully brief) hiatus, while I finish two large commissions (one
two-act stage musical, one concert-length multidisciplinary work).
> Is there any repository and plans how to contribute?
Urs and I are discussing (off-line)
Hi Kieren,
did I miss something or what happened to GASP? I don’t want to urge anyone, I am
just curious. Is there any repository and plans how to contribute?
Cheers,
Joram
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Hi Johan,
> As I understand, the compact chord names require a (otherwise
> harmless) change in one of lily's scm files. I don't know if this can be
> dealt with by pure inclusion of an .ily file.
Yes… I misunderstood the original post.
> Just nitpicking: the names are Clinton H. Roemer and Carl
On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 19:08 -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> > "Chord Chart”
>
> +1
>
> > the compact chord symbols have yet to make it into LilyPond
>
> I don’t think those (or any other) chord symbols should “make it into
> Lilypond”
I wrote too tersely, it is not the "symbol
Hi Joram (et al.),
> I would contribute my modest style sheets for choir works (SATB).
> It is mostly about distances (paper) and fonts – not really choir related.
That’s what a stylesheet is, in my opinion.
Templates are a whole different thing — which should be discussed in a
different thread.
Am 20.01.2015 um 00:15 schrieb Noeck:
Hi Kieren, et al.
I like you initiative and I would contribute my modest style sheets for choir
works (SATB). It is mostly about distances (paper) and fonts – not really choir
related.
I think the OpenLilyLib snippets/stylesheets would be a good place to c
Hi all,
> "Chord Chart”
+1
> the compact chord symbols have yet to make it into LilyPond
I don’t think those (or any other) chord symbols should “make it into Lilypond”
— instead, I think we should have stylesheets like
stylesheets/chords/ChordNames.ily
and
stylesheets/chords/names/
> E.g., I would not use small caps for the voice names. More
> important, I would need German voice names.
… and it is very well documented how to do that in those templates!
I will have another look at them … ;)
Joram
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> There is a built-in template almost exactly like this in LilyPond already
> which may be used to typeset a range of choral music, with or without
> accompaniment, in two or four staves.
>
> See
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/built_002din-templates
That’s interestin
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:36:55AM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>
> > Melody + chords (tunes, e.g. Irish or old-timey)
>
> That's a "lead sheet" in my parlance.
IMO, it would be useful to include an (optional) lyric context in
the lead sheet stylesheet.
Jim
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Hi Kieren, et al.
I like you initiative and I would contribute my modest style sheets for choir
works (SATB). It is mostly about distances (paper) and fonts – not really choir
related.
I think the OpenLilyLib snippets/stylesheets would be a good place to collect
them. (If Urs agrees – I am not su
Johan Vromans wrote Monday, January 19, 2015 1:55 PM
> In an earlier posting I mentioned a set of templates that I've developed
> and used for a couple of years. These do not work by changing the template
> code, but adding to it. This is much simpler to achieve.
>
> For example:
>
> +---
> | \
Hi Henning,
> My templates contain a lot of commented lines with commands/tweaks that I
> sometimes use, so that I don’t need to look them up again. That might fit
> templates in Frescobaldi, but isn’t suitable for stylesheets that you just
> include without looking at them.
To my mind, the st
Hi Jay (et al.),
> - solo instrument + solo instrument (solo part is cue staff)
Cool.
> I assume the goal is mostly for setting sensible defaults for a
> specific type of score and less about building the structure. So you'd
> still need to manually build the scores and staves. Correct?
Yes. Te
Hi Christopher,
> Melody + chords (tunes, e.g. Irish or old-timey)
That’s a “lead sheet” in my parlance.
> Instrument + piano (accompanied instrument solo)
Good. This should be different (though not much so) from the piano+voice
stylesheet.
Cheers,
Kieren.
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Hi Urs,
> Anything with figured bass.
Good call.
> I don't know if that should be a kind of "plug-in" solution or if it would
> need a complete set of style sheets.
Either way, I would hope it wouldn’t be a lot of extra overhead.
Thanks,
Kieren.
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Hi Urs (et al.),
> I think it would be easier to develop such a thing as a library, as a work in
> progress. When including it into LilyPond it the stakes are quite high, and
> this might be a reason for never getting to that point …
+1
> I'd see the attitude towards reviewing contributions st
Hi Martin,
> But before needing all kinds of includes for different kinds of scores: I
> think there is still enough room for improvement for the raw default LilyPond
> output - without needing extra include files.
I agree 100%.
One of the outputs of this effort, I hope, will be a consensus-bui
Hi Abraham,
> Is this effort all about creating stylesheets (i.e., customizing the
> look-and-feel of scores via \overrides, fonts, etc.)
Yes.
> or templates (i.e., the structure of the scores)?
No… but I could imagine that one beneficial side-effect of devevloping the
stylesheets would be ne
pport* such a template (and a
style sheet) library instead of incorporating itself. I think it would
be a good idea not to tie such important enhancements to a single
editing environment.
Urs
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> ... I don't see any
> reason why a standard set of these can't be included in LilyPond itself
> for the user to access, but maybe that's more for something like
> Frescobaldi.
I'm inclined to second this.
> ... but to be able to open an
> actual file with a lot of the structure already crea
t of the structure already created, where a user
can then customize as necessary, I would think, could be very useful,
especially to newcomers.
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:44:29 -0500
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> piano solo
> instrument solo/part
> orchestra score
> choir, a cappella
> choir plus piano
> piano + voice, art song
> piano + voice + guitar chords, popular
> chamber score (2-4 players)
> piano cham
Am 19.01.2015 um 04:41 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi Urs (et al.),
Maybe having it as a semi-official library would be more manageable?
Sure… whatever works best!
I think it would be easier to develop such a thing as a library, as a
work in progress. When including it into LilyPond it the s
Am 19.01.2015 um 04:44 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi all,
I had been surprised not to find a template for the “lead sheets” I’ve been
making.
Yes!
Let’s start making a list of the “big picture” targets:
piano solo
instrument solo/part
orchestra score
choir, a cappella
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015, Urs Liska wrote:
Am 18.01.2015 um 20:42 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
My idea is that we have a basic set of stylesheets for the main types of
scores — e.g., piano solo, organ solo, instrumental solo/part, choir, full
score, etc. — which can be \include-d by the user to gi
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:44:29 -0500
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> Other obvious ones?
choir (4 voices) + guitar chords (names)
I have a set of templates that I currently use for this.
I can define the melodies, and one or more lyrics for each melody. All is
automatically combined into the final scor
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Kieren MacMillan
wrote:
> Let’s start making a list of the “big picture” targets:
> piano solo
> instrument solo/part
> orchestra score
> choir, a cappella
> choir plus piano
> piano + voice, art song
> piano + voice + guitar chords, pop
On 01/18/2015 09:44 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> Other obvious ones?
Melody + chords (tunes, e.g. Irish or old-timey)
Instrument + piano (accompanied instrument solo)
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Am 2015-01-19 um 09:44 schrieb Kieren MacMillan :
> Hi all,
>
>> I had been surprised not to find a template for the “lead sheets” I’ve been
>> making.
>
> Yes!
>
> Let’s start making a list of the “big picture” targets:
>piano solo
>instrument solo/part
>orchestra score
>choi
Hi all,
> I had been surprised not to find a template for the “lead sheets” I’ve been
> making.
Yes!
Let’s start making a list of the “big picture” targets:
piano solo
instrument solo/part
orchestra score
choir, a cappella
choir plus piano
piano + voice, art song
pia
Hi Urs (et al.),
> Maybe having it as a semi-official library would be more manageable?
Sure… whatever works best!
> A suggestion regarding the interface: how about
>\include "stylesheets/choral/octavo.ily”
Okay.
> There could be a hierarchy of different building blocks, and the actual
>
Speaking as a newbie, I also love this idea, as I’m understanding it. I had
been surprised not to find a template for the “lead sheets” I’ve been making.
On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
> I have to say that I like this idea a LOT. Like Urs' suggestion too. Seems
> like this shou
I have to say that I like this idea a LOT. Like Urs' suggestion too. Seems
like this should just be a part of the "package" - kind of an adjunct to
the exceptional documentation that has always been a part of Lily.
Tom
(classic guitar)
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
> I have
Am 18.01.2015 um 20:42 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hello all!
I recently sent a post about my choral piece, and had to *not* use my choral
stylesheet. Seeing what the default output looks like lit a fire under my butt
to get a stylesheet project going ASAP — I haven’t really seen a default
Lil
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Kieren MacMillan <
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I recently sent a post about my choral piece, and had to *not* use my
> choral stylesheet. Seeing what the default output looks like lit a fire
> under my butt to get a stylesheet project goi
Hello all!
I recently sent a post about my choral piece, and had to *not* use my choral
stylesheet. Seeing what the default output looks like lit a fire under my butt
to get a stylesheet project going ASAP — I haven’t really seen a default
Lilypond score (as opposed to tiny snippets) in at leas
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