Re: "Volta with text" snippet needs font correcting

2007-09-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/15, Perry Gilfillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This was my first effort to post a snippet after searching for > solutions to the various formatting issues. I've gone over it again > and would appreciate any further comments. Great to hear from you Perry :) It's perfect. Your snippet was alre

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Shape notes is not only about making it easier to read, is it? It's closer to a notational system of its own. The affinities with solmization are strong, and even though that too had an educational function, it went way beyond that. Fingering: sure, it's educational too, but again, I wouldn't have

Re: "Volta with text" snippet needs font correcting

2007-09-14 Thread Perry Gilfillan
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:56:32 +0200 From: Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "Volta with text" snippet needs font correcting To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Am Dienstag, 11. September 2007 schrieb Valentin

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 14.09.2007 (13:10), Graham Percival wrote: > Eyolf Østrem wrote: > >I don't like the sectioning of this one. Why is "Transpose" and > >"Instrument transpositions" split up? It doesn't make sense to me. > >Ottava brackets should also belong here somewhere. > Instrument transpositions affects how

Re: Sans Font for Lilypond texts?

2007-09-14 Thread Dominic Neumann
2007/9/14, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Dominic Neumann wrote: > > Thank you for you hint. I´ve read section 9.3 and also found the > > program-reference. > > But in VoltaBracket I couln´t find a property to set to font(-family). > > I only found the font-encoding property, but this do

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/14, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > o 1.7 Educational use (or "increasing readibility" ?) > They make the music easier to read. Again, I'm not wild about the > section name, as you can tell from the (?) in the name. > I'm quite happy with having a section that includes those

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Eyolf Østrem wrote: On 14.09.2007 (08:23), Graham Percival wrote: http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Doc * 1 Notation Reference o 1.1 Pitches I don't like the sectioning of this one. Why is "Transpose" and "Instrument transpositions" split up? It doesn't make sense to

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 14.09.2007 (08:23), Graham Percival wrote: > http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Doc * 1 Notation Reference o 1.1 Pitches I don't like the sectioning of this one. Why is "Transpose" and "Instrument transpositions" split up? It doesn't make sense to me. Ottava brackets s

Re: Hiding an end-of-line cautionary key signature

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Thanks, added as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=471 Cheers, - Graham Mats Bengtsson wrote: I've added a new example in the LSR, showing this solution (for version 2.10 it turns out that also the time signature is playing a trick here), see http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/9/14, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Err... why? What's the difference between looking at a list of markup commands in section 8.1.8 or 1.8.3 or Appendix M ? There's none. Appendix aren't meant to contain daily vital stuff, that's all :) What, like a li

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/9/14, Juergen Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Ancient notation _could_ be split genre-wise into two separate chunks "Gregorian Chant" and "Mensural Notation". However, for a _reference_ manual, I think it is ok as it currently is (e.g. having a single section on liga

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Neil Puttock
On 9/14/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Neil Puttock wrote: > > On 9/14/07, *Graham Percival* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > No; we should use "staff" and "staves". One of the instructions for > the > > Trivial/Easy will be to fix any suc

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/14, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Err... why? What's the difference between looking at a list of markup > commands in section 8.1.8 or 1.8.3 or Appendix M ? There's none. Appendix aren't meant to contain daily vital stuff, that's all :) > I mean, yes, we plan on improving all se

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Neil Puttock wrote: On 9/14/07, *Graham Percival* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: No; we should use "staff" and "staves". One of the instructions for the Trivial/Easy will be to fix any such mistakes. Hmm... I'm detecting a distinctly American bias here. As a

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/14, Juergen Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ancient notation _could_ be split genre-wise into two separate chunks > "Gregorian Chant" and "Mensural Notation". However, for a _reference_ > manual, I think it is ok as it currently is (e.g. having a single section > on ligatures rather than sep

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Neil Puttock
On 9/14/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mats Bengtsson wrote: > > - You have a much better feeling for the English language than I do, but > > do you think that we should keep the current mixture of "staff" and > > "stave" > > to denote the same thing, for example in the subsec

Re: Half a \prall

2007-09-14 Thread Hans Aberg
I discovered they can be produced using Unicode U+1D19D for the half Pralltriller, and adding U+1D1A0 for the half mordent. So the question becomes: Can ornaments like \prall be created using Unicode characters? Hans Aberg On 14 Sep 2007, at 17:08, Mats Bengtsson wrote: These symbols c

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: Just one question: due to the alignement and their "timing effect", wouldn't it be judicious to move the "grace notes" to the "1.2.6 Special rhythmic concerns", at least through a link? Of course we'll have @seealso links everywhere in the manual. That's not a

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/9/14, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: As Valentin said; the markup commands are even more of a reference. Hmm... actually, what about moving these into an Appendix? Agreed, but if we do, we'll have to improve the actual markup manual section, so that users

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/14, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As Valentin said; the markup commands are even more of a reference. > Hmm... actually, what about moving these into an Appendix? Agreed, but if we do, we'll have to improve the actual markup manual section, so that users only exceptionally have to

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 14.09.2007 17:23, Graham Percival disait : http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Doc Sounds very promising. I like this progressive discovery. Just one question: due to the alignement and their "timing effect", wouldn't it be judicious to move the "grace notes" to the "1.2.6

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: - You have a much better feeling for the English language than I do, but do you think that we should keep the current mixture of "staff" and "stave" to denote the same thing, for example in the subsection titles within "Staff notation"? No; we should use "staff" and "s

Re: GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Juergen Reuter
Just for the record: Ancient notation _could_ be split genre-wise into two separate chunks "Gregorian Chant" and "Mensural Notation". However, for a _reference_ manual, I think it is ok as it currently is (e.g. having a single section on ligatures rather than separate ones per genre). For a

Re: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
Trevor Daniels wrote: Do you plan to have links pointing to the substantive section from other sections in which people might look? For example, I might look under 1.2.1 Writing rhythms for grace notes and it would be useful to find there a link saying grace notes are to be found under 1.3.3 Ot

GDP: six

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Doc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

individually-coloured staff line possible?

2007-09-14 Thread Hostage_09
Hello- I would really appreciate any ideas anyone has on this problem. Is there a way of making a 5-line, treble-clef staff, with the middle line (i.e. the B line) individually coloured in red? Here's what I have sofar but I'm a bit stuck: (I'm only newly converted to lilypond!) % single-line

Re: Half a \prall

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
These symbols correspond to one symbol each in the LilyPond font, so I'm afraid you would have to use some trick with \markup to draw a white area on top of half the symbol. Similar tricks have been described several times on the mailing list (and I think there are examples in LSR). /Mats Hans

Half a \prall

2007-09-14 Thread Hans Aberg
Is is possible to produce a \prall and a \mordent, but with only one wave (one peak and one valley). The idea is to notate a special ornament similar to these, but where the speed does not admit the terminating note of a Pralltriller or mordent (used in Bulgarian music). Hans Aberg __

Re: GDP: fifth arrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/14/07, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/14/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Doc > > > > General notes: > > - we're only dealing with the Notation Reference now. I want to get > > this finalized so we can start th

Re: GDP: fifth arrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/14/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Doc > > General notes: > - we're only dealing with the Notation Reference now. I want to get > this finalized so we can start the real work, so things like Titles / > page formatting / changi

GDP: fifth arrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Graham Percival
http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Doc General notes: - we're only dealing with the Notation Reference now. I want to get this finalized so we can start the real work, so things like Titles / page formatting / changing defaults / etc will be dealt with later. - stuff from th

Re: can't generate pdf file

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The most likely problem is that you have managed to enter something in your file that does not follow the syntax, so that LilyPond gets confused. Do you get any xxx.log file (assuming that your input file was called xxx.ly)? In that case, you will hopefully get some hints in it on what's wrong.

Re: Sans Font for Lilypond texts?

2007-09-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mats: The list of properties only shows the properties that are set by default, so it's not an exhaustive list. To see all available properties, you have to browse through all the links to different "interfaces" at the bottom. More proof of the need for a "full list", as we've been di

Re: Sans Font for Lilypond texts?

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Dominic Neumann wrote: Thank you for you hint. I´ve read section 9.3 and also found the program-reference. But in VoltaBracket I couln´t find a property to set to font(-family). I only found the font-encoding property, but this doesn´t help me by now. The list of properties only shows the pr

Re: Sans Font for Lilypond texts?

2007-09-14 Thread Dominic Neumann
Thank you for you hint. I´ve read section 9.3 and also found the program-reference. But in VoltaBracket I couln´t find a property to set to font(-family). I only found the font-encoding property, but this doesn´t help me by now. In the manual (8.1.7. Font selection) is written: "font-encoding is a

Re: How to make different horizontal spacing for each staff?

2007-09-14 Thread Vít Reichel
Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: > Actually, I don't understand exactly what you are asking for. > If you want the 16th notes regularly spaced, read the two sections > on "Proportional notation" in the manual. At the bottom of the > second of these two (Sect. 11.6.5), you will also find setting

Re: Sans Font for Lilypond texts?

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Dominic Neumann wrote: Okay, that works good. I also added \override StanzaNumber #'font-family = #'sans for the stanza numbers to be in the same style. But for consictency I´d like to have some other fonts also being Sans, e.g. the font of the volta brackets. I couldn´t find something about it

Re: How to make different horizontal spacing for each staff?

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/9/14, Vít Reichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There is no need for compressing music as the number of eighth notes in both staves is the same. The problem is that I would need regular intervals between the sixteenth notes. Oh, I understand now! This is indeed

Re: How to make different horizontal spacing for each staff?

2007-09-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/14, Vít Reichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There is no need for compressing music as the number of eighth notes in both > staves is the same. The problem is that I would need regular intervals between > the sixteenth notes. Oh, I understand now! This is indeed tricky; the Spacing_engraver, and

RE: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Graham > > Based on the feedback, it seems that most users > would vastly prefer > something like this? > http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Doc > I like this layout; the criterion being whether I would look in the right section for the answers to questions. I especially like

Re: How to make different horizontal spacing for each staff?

2007-09-14 Thread Vít Reichel
Valentin Villenave gmail.com> writes: > > 2007/9/13, Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se>: > > > I don't understand why you set measurePosition (which tells where the next > > note is in the measure). Rather, you could set measureLength > > corresponding to > > the scaling of the durations that you have

Re: Sans Font for Lilypond texts?

2007-09-14 Thread Dominic Neumann
Okay, that works good. I also added \override StanzaNumber #'font-family = #'sans for the stanza numbers to be in the same style. But for consictency I´d like to have some other fonts also being Sans, e.g. the font of the volta brackets. I couldn´t find something about it in the manual. I tried to

Re: Hiding an end-of-line cautionary key signature

2007-09-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/14, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've added a new example in the LSR, showing this solution (for version 2.10 > it turns out that also the time signature is playing a trick here), see > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=325 Thanks; approved. Cheers, Valentin __

Re: Hiding an end-of-line cautionary key signature

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I've added a new example in the LSR, showing this solution (for version 2.10 it turns out that also the time signature is playing a trick here), see http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=325 I also send the corresponding example as a bug report (or feature request). The setting of Staff.explic

Re: Hiding an end-of-line cautionary key signature

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Just add \once \set Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible at the beginning of your \new Staff{...}. /Mats Steven Weber wrote: Lilypond 2.11.32, Windows XP I’m working on a piece that has several measures of divisi. Because the piece has a lot of time changes, I don’t

Re: Sans Font for Lilypond texts?

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
If all you want to do is to get a Sans font for lyrics, it's just to redefine the corresponding font property. To do this for all Lyrics contexts in your file, you can add \layout{ \context{ \Lyrics \override LyricText #'font-family = #'sans } } anywhere at the top level of the .ly file.

Sans Font for Lilypond texts?

2007-09-14 Thread Dominic Neumann
Hi, I want to try to have all my lyrics typeset in a Sans font. Therefor I´ve used a snippet from LSR (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=221): %%% BEGIN OF SNIPPET %%% \paper { myStaffSize = #20 #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree "Bitstream Vera Sans" "Ni

Re: GDP: fourth rearrangement

2007-09-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Looks great! A few minor details: - In Rhythms, I would like to rearrange the order a bit, to put the most common aspects at the top. For example: 1.2 Rhythms 1.2.1 Writing rhythms + Durations + Augmentation dots + Tuplets